"I want them to have a set of 20 million US dollars!" Zheng Yucheng said through gritted teeth, "Just to help us change the J-8II, a set of avionics system and fire control radar, they will ask us for 10 million US dollars! ”

As for how much it costs to oversell -7A to the United States, he was the first to put it forward.

Sell, that's definitely going to sell.

After this village, there is no such shop, and it is sold abroad anyway.

Sell to the Americans, this is better to advertise the domestic military-industrial complex.

Wang Guilin looked at Zheng Yucheng, the old guy is completely whimsical, Americans are not ignorant of goods, the price is too high, what should people do?

"It's not possible at this price, we only sold it to Egypt for $10 million. Wang Guilin felt that this price was unrealistic.

The performance of the Super 7A is due to the huge lift and aerodynamic performance provided by the canard wing with the aerodynamic layout of the large delta wing, not the overall performance.

As an advanced trainer or light fighter, the Super 7A is indeed very good.

But this fighter is used in real combat and will not perform too well.

Although the avionics system and radar system have improved, they still cannot be compared with the F-14, F15, F-16 and other mainstream Western fighters, and there is even a big gap.

Xie Kai looked at Zheng Yucheng's whimsical and couldn't help sighing.

No matter what, it is difficult for the Super-7A to double the price.

I knew that I wouldn't have been in a hurry to sell it to the Egyptians in the first place, otherwise what they would have said now, they would have been able to do it.

"Let's listen to what Xie Kai has to say. He's been planning it all along. Wang Guilin saw that Xie Kai hadn't spoken all the time, and felt that it was better to see what Xie Kai said.

Before, they did not think at all that they could sell the Super-7A to the Americans.

"At the moment, it seems unlikely that you want to sell it to the Americans at a high price. Of course, with the low prices of Egypt, it will not work. Xie Kai was also thinking about it.

When Egypt first purchased it, the super 7A had not yet completed its first flight, and the 200 engines bought back from the Soviet Union were rusted in the warehouse.

Therefore, Xie Kai did not talk too much about the price with the Egyptian side in order to make people have nothing to say.

Ten million dollars a one, as a training aircraft, it must be more expensive.

However, it has performance data that far exceeds that of ordinary light fighters, so it is not expensive.

"In terms of price, it has to go up to at least $12 million to $13 million. In terms of quantity, you can make a fuss. Xie Kai thought about it for a long time, and felt that he could only make a fuss about quantity.

"You might as well raise the price more, what's the use of them buying so much?" Zheng Yucheng laughed angrily at Xie Kai's words.

The last thing that the Americans lack is fighters.

Not to mention the thousands of advanced fighters in active service, the number of previously retired fighters, the number of them added up to be incomparably terrifying.

Xie Kai actually wanted to make a fuss about the most unlikely amount.

Didn't you see that people in the United States bought J-7s, but only 15 of them?

That's about $100 million.

The J-7 is cheap, and one is only $7 million.

"Uncle Zheng, don't forget, the positioning of the Super 7A is not a main fighter, but an advanced training aircraft!" Xie Kai emphasized. "And now, the U.S. Air Force, which has excellent fighter performance, does not have an advanced advanced training aircraft!"

Xie Kai found a breakthrough point by fully combining what he had learned.

As an important high-level training aircraft for the future U.S. Air Force and Naval Aviation Units, the T-45 has not yet entered the first flight stage.

The T-38 Eagle Claw training aircraft, which was originally used as the main training model in the United States, has long been backward because it was designed in the fifties, and it has long been backward for the US aviation units, which are all more technically capable of the main fighters, in terms of flight performance and instruments.

Not to mention the old T-47 trainer aircraft that came from the 80 improved P-33 fighters.

"The Americans don't have high-level trainer planes with excellent performance?" Zheng Yucheng didn't believe it, "Then where did they get so many pilots of advanced fighters?"

"A trainer aircraft of the same type of fighter. Xie Kai said, "What they lack is a GM advanced trainer. ”

At present, the development of the air forces of various countries begins with training pilots on basic training aircraft, and after having a foundation in flight, they continue to learn to fly in the same type of training aircraft as fighters.

Under such a training program, pilots can fly the same type of fighter they have learned very well as long as they fly alone.

This is also the main way of training the air forces of various countries.

However, under such a training system, there are not no drawbacks, and the training time of pilots has become very long, and the training cost has increased a lot.

The T-45 was originally developed by McDonnell Douglas and British Aerospace Corporation based on the U.S. Navy's "Jet Flight Training System (VTXTS)", and its development began in November 81, and its first flight has not yet been achieved.

The U.S. Navy's requirement for the new trainer aircraft is that the new trainer aircraft can reduce the size of the training formation by 42%, the number of flight hours by 25%, and the number of personnel by 46% compared to the T-2 and TA-4 currently used by the Navy......

The Super -7A is just enough to do such a job.

And because of its short take-off and landing and superb low-altitude flight performance, it is even more suitable for the U.S. Navy than the T-45 under development.

"If that's the case, it's really possible. However, will the United States and Britain make trouble with the T-45?" Wang Guilin felt that it was completely possible after listening to Xie Kai's explanation.

The Super 7A itself is positioned as an advanced training aircraft.

For large countries, this is a trainer, and for small countries, this is a fighter.

It can be anti-air, anti-ship, and ground attack, and the comprehensive performance completely varies according to different combat missions.

"What are they messing with? It's a big deal if they don't sell it. Didn't McDonnell Douglas cheat our Y-10 before? What if he snatched their order? What's more, the United States has not placed an order yet!"

The military-industrial units of the United States are like this, they study it themselves first, and then sell it to the military when the time comes, and if the military is interested, then they will get rich; if the military is not interested, sorry, the investment in research and development will be wasted.

It is completely different from the domestic military system research and development.

Even, 404 is currently taking such a path, first independently according to market demand to establish research and development, and then sell.

It is completely different from other military industrial units in China that carry out the tasks of their superiors, and the superiors issue research and development tasks, allocate research and development funds, and then start to carry out them.

"This is good! Lao Tzu has long been unhappy with Mai Dao, so he is counting on the complete success of the Yun-10, and then grab their orders! This is why we charge a little interest first!" Zheng Yucheng was immediately overjoyed.

As for McDonnell Douglas, not to mention him, even many technicians who are engaged in large aircraft attribute the reason for the disembarkation of the Y-10 to McDonnell Douglas entering China.

Although the Y-10 is a little backward in technology and has higher fuel consumption, it is not as environmentally friendly as the legend, as long as there are orders, it can continue to improve.

McDonnell Douglas entered China, completely depriving the Y-10 of its continued research and development funds.

"McDonnell Douglas is our enemy, so it's understandable to grab their orders. Xie Kai is more unhappy than Zheng Yucheng. "If they hadn't wanted to use parts from our third plane to train the workers, I wouldn't have hated them so much!"

What Xie Kai said was obviously insincere.

McDonnell Douglas's technology is indeed much stronger than that of large aircraft factories, which cannot be denied.

Some people say that McDonnell Douglas is a public relations for the Chinese side, before entering China, burying the future of the Y-10, the more you know about the high-end manufacturing industry of the whole country, the more you know about the above bigwigs, the more Xie Kai feels that it is nonsense.

If the big guy above really has no vision, will he allow a-stirring stick like 404 to exist?

The above hopes to exchange technology for the market, but it is estimated that no one thought that after more than ten years, McDonnell Douglas would go bankrupt and be merged by Boeing.

In the end, there were no large aircraft to produce in China.

In any case, McDonnell Douglas has been produced in China for more than ten years, and it is still good for the training of national talents, otherwise, it is not so easy to engage in ARJ-21 regional airliners and C-919 large aircraft after McDonnell Douglas aircraft are not allowed to be produced in China.

The only bad thing is that there is no Yun-10, and the domestic system is not perfect.

"Can we grab it?" Wang Guilin was a little worried, "Don't affect other cooperation at that time." ”

"It's better not to cooperate! McDonnell Douglas withdraws from China, that's the best. At that time, we will have no competitors for the Y-10. Zheng Yucheng couldn't wait for it.

Xie Kai knows that McDonnell Douglas will not go bankrupt and will not withdraw from the Chinese market.

Even, because of the existence of the Y-10, the price increase of McDonnell Douglas aircraft did not dare to be as excessive as the original history.

The people of the Civil Aviation Administration are not stupid, China's production technology is too poor, the cost is too high, and McDonnell Douglas wants to raise the price?

Don't want to raise the price, the Y-10 is almost a handicap, can it fly?

"McDonnell Douglas evacuation is out of the question. With the growth of the domestic economy, the domestic civil aviation market will grow on a large scale, and the demand for civil airliners will also be even greater...... "Xie Kai said seriously, "and even Airbus and Boeing will enter China to build factories for the market." ”

China's aviation market will be the fastest growing country in the world in the coming decades.

Before they finished their discussions, they received a notice from Long Yaohua that the Americans invited them to dinner to discuss matters related to cooperation on the super-7A fighter.

"What's there to discuss? If you want to buy it directly!" Zheng Yucheng's waist is now stiff.

It's hard to get a shake in front of the Americans.

"Or is it the old rule, let them pay in advance first?" Wang Guilin was also full of eagerness.

Xie Kai shook his head, "No, change the rules this time, learn from the J-8II project they cooperated with us, and let them pay the full amount first!"

In any case, cooperation will eventually be suspended because the Soviet Union is no longer able to do so, and the Americans no longer need China to help them share the pressure of a strong Soviet Union.

The J-8II was stillborn before it was completed, and when the time comes, it will be a tooth for a tooth.

The Americans demanded that China pay hundreds of millions more dollars to continue to complete the J-8II, and then China could also ask the Americans to pay more on the grounds of rising costs, otherwise there would be no need to deliver it......