"Isn't it too much for us to do this?" Zheng Yucheng saw Xiong Hongyuan turn around and leave, and asked Xie Kai a little embarrassed.

Xie Kai nodded, "It's indeed a bit excessive. After all, we robbed other people's people and asked them to help us develop new models for free. In this way, two fighters with different roles are obtained. There are fighters, there are trainers. ”

Saying this, Xie Kai sighed.

Knowing that 611 was for Project 10, Xie Kai was more eager than anyone else to hope that Project 10 would be done as soon as possible.

The problem is that they must not be unprincipled in their limited spending for this purpose.

The emergence of the J-10 can only be achieved by relying on the accumulation of the entire aviation industry and the improvement of the technical level of the entire aviation industry. Now, without technical experience and without too much accumulation, relying on money to smash, without the huge capital investment of the state, it is impossible to get it out with the limited funds of 404 alone.

The four key technologies of the advanced aerodynamic layout, digital fly-by-wire flight control system, highly integrated avionics system and computer-aided design of the third-generation fighter are not too big problems at present.

The digital fly-by-wire flight control system has only started in the past two years, and it has not yet been introduced.

Highly integrated avionics systems are even more problematic.

"But it's a good thing for both of us, and even if it's too much, it's just a good thing. Xie Kai looked at Zheng Yucheng and said helplessly.

He didn't feel like they were taking advantage.

Hongdu's K8 advanced training aircraft will not be approved until next year.

The 404's single-engine light super seven, the prototype for test flights, is already in the production process, and even began to be assembled, taking the lead, except for Xie Kai, who can know that he has robbed Hongdu's job?

"They want to poach people from us?" Li Wenzheng listened to Xiong Hongyuan's words, confirmed that what Huo Haiyuan said was the truth, and immediately roared angrily. "They've done it so well, and everybody wants to dig it. ”

Huo Haiyuan was helpless and couldn't answer.

Chief Master Song Wencong looked at Huo Haiyuan, and then asked Xiong Hongyuan some details with a serious face, such as some details of 404.

He hadn't spent much time dealing with 404 before, and he didn't know much about the people over there.

"Originally, they were also scientific research bases, and in the end, the various systems evacuated the scientific research units, leaving a small number of unimportant scientific research units there, mainly supporting units. Since the end of the previous year, 404 has come out, and he went directly to Xiangjiang to find the Pakistanis, and cut off the order for 617 new tanks...... "Xiong Hongyuan told all the news he had heard in 404 before. Even so, 617 had to work with them. Although 617 is the best tank technology in China, as a result, 404 directly cooperated with the 541 base, and a large number of scientific researchers from 541 were dug into 404, and now the 359 tank has received a very large order, and their funds mainly come from the export of weapons and equipment......"

When Mr. Song heard this, his brows furrowed even more.

It's a situation that's so similar to what they'd like to encounter.

There are far more domestic aviation systems and scientific research units than armored research units such as tanks, and no one of us has a very good time.

404 took over the dismounted J-9 team, and also dug up a lot of people from the 601 Institute, and the framework has been built.

"Originally, the J-9 team was taken over by them, and this team should belong to them. Now they're just giving the rights back. Xiong Hongyuan felt that there was no problem for 404 to leave this team, as long as the fighter was produced in Factory 132.

"Lao Huo, tell me what you think. Li Wenzheng gradually calmed the anger in his heart.

No one can stop this kind of thing.

"They came to me, and I thought about it all night, and the director, I felt, could agree to their terms. The whole team, many of them are ours, give them, you can exchange some conditions. Huo Haiyuan weighed it, gritted his teeth and said.

Li Wenzheng and Song Wencong did not get angry, but waited for Huo Haiyuan's next step.

After all, Huo Haiyuan has always been very down-to-earth.

"If we don't agree, with their usual habits, they will also do it themselves, withdraw the people they poached from other aviation units, and then go crazy to poach our people......" Huo Haiyuan is not alarmist.

The people of 404 have behaved domineeringly in the past two years, and those who have a little contact know it.

However, in terms of cooperation, the people of 404 are not too ugly.

"So, do you think you can take this as an opportunity to strengthen cooperation with them?" Li Wenzheng asked Huo Haiyuan. "They asked you to be in charge of this project, right?"

"Yes. Huo Haiyuan knew Li Wenzheng's thoughts, but still nodded.

Zheng Yucheng and Xie Kai negotiated with him on the condition that he would go to 404 to manage the entire project and be the real chief designer of the project.

"I think it's okay to agree to their terms, but I have to study them carefully and put forward some conditions. In addition, it is necessary to consider the issue of cooperation in the future. The No. 10 project is too tight, and the verification of several key technologies has to rely on their funding. Mr. Song thought about it and said. "For the sake of Project Ten, we are not satisfied with their behavior......"

Now the single shot of Super Seven is the technical verification of Project No. 10.

The aerodynamic layout is like this, the computer-aided part, the 404 comes from behind, and there are some technologies from the F-14 imitation in the hand, etc., which are even a little stronger than the 611 Institute.

When the two cooperate, the possibility of technological breakthroughs is greater.

Seeing that the people of 611 no longer refused, Xiong Hongyuan breathed a sigh of relief.

He was afraid that the two sides would fall out, and in the end 404 would not cooperate with them.

The conditions of Factory 112 are definitely much better than their Factory 132. Even in terms of scientific research, the accumulation of fighters, 601 is much stronger than 611.

There is no other reason, most of the domestic fighter models are made by the 112 factory.

Finally, the J-9 project was allocated to the 611 Institute, but in the end it was discontinued.

In terms of fighter design experience, Factory 112 has the technical accumulation of J-8 and previous models, and Factory 132 only has improvement experience of J-7.

Li Wenzheng and others, why don't they think about it like this?

At noon, Li Wenzheng and others invited Xie Kai and Zheng Yucheng to dinner.

During the meal, the wine was served directly, Xie Kai and Zheng Yucheng glanced at each other, knowing what their purpose was, and they did not refuse, the cups came and went, and the plans were staggered, and finally Xie Kai and Zheng Yucheng both pretended to be slightly drunk.

So, the people from the 611 Institute invited the two to the conference room, and began to negotiate while drinking tea.

"Two, light single-engine super canard layout, due to the complexity of the interaction between the canard wing and the wing, it usually produces a nonlinear ...... of the aircraft moment" At the beginning, Song Wencong gave Xie Kai and Zheng Yucheng, two drunken guys, a bunch of professional terms.

Speaking of professional things, it is easier to make people's heads dizzy.

"What is this?" Zheng Yucheng asked drunkenly, "Don't fix those useless things, agree or not, just say it." ”

"Director Zheng, the aerodynamic layout of the Super Seven is too advanced, if there is no other means of control, just rely on the layout of the aircraft itself, etc., during the flight, it is easy to have problems......," Mr. Song continued to explain, "The solution we chose was to use the digital fly-by-wire flight control system to hit the control." Once the flight control system fails to make a breakthrough, the entire scheme design basically fails. ”

"The mechanical control system can't work?" Xie Kai's face was flushed, not because he drank too much, it was completely suffocating.

At noon, because of his age, he didn't drink much.

But you have to pretend to be slightly drunk, so that everyone can talk about it conveniently, right?

"In the process of aircraft flight, in order to adjust the flight attitude and control the flight trajectory, it is necessary to control the elevator or full-motion flat tail, ailerons and rudder and other mechanisms; The more complex the aerodynamic layout, the more powerless the mechanical one is, right? Not only will the control system of the entire aircraft increase the weight, but the control will also be cumbersome, whether it is a mechanical or analog signal control system, it is not the best choice. The use of the central computer-aided control processing of the redundant management and manipulation method is the most appropriate ......" Mr. Song said a bunch of professional terms, Zheng Yucheng's head was dizzy.

Even Xie Kai was a little stunned when he heard it.

It is far easier for a professional aircraft chief designer to speak than for him to rummage through those unreliable and uncertain materials on the Internet.

"That prototype, also use this?" Xie Kai pretended to be confused, although he didn't particularly understand what he heard, but he also knew that the domestic digital flight control system was just starting.

The young graduate student who will become the director of 611 at a very young age, and who has just graduated from the school not long ago, can be on Xie Kai's plan list.

"No, it's controlled by analog signals, and the whole control mechanism is too heavy...... There are not many problems such as flight control, but there will be many defects in flight performance and aircraft weight. Mr. Song didn't hide anything.

Hearing this, Xie Kai understood.

The MiG-29 seems to be the flight control system used, which has caused the MiG-29 to be criticized.

In the third-generation fighter, only Lao Maozi's MiG-29 is the control method of the second-generation fighter.

This is also a helpless thing, the electronics industry is backward, the level of computer development is limited, and it is naturally prone to problems, isn't it?

In the application of backward control systems, people can still make the flight performance of the MiG-29 so good, and you can also see how strong their design and manufacturing strength is.

At least, China can't do it.

Not to mention the MiG-29, even if the MiG-29 sends an iron lump into the sky, it can fly faster and higher, and China can't do it now.

"That prototype is the structural design of the No. 10 project and the verification of the design of the body, right?" Xie Kai's words immediately made Mr. Song and Huo Haiyuan dumbfounded.

Isn't this kid drunk?

If you're not drunk, how can you know these things?