The 401 RD-33 is good? Why is the MiG-29 the king of short legs

"Uncle driver, please rest assured, these news are not known to the United States and Western countries at present. After Xie Kai finished speaking, seeing that the other party's face was extremely pale, he said comfortingly. "Even in our country, very few people know about this, including my father, who doesn't know about it. ”

Xie Kai told the truth, but no one believed it.

In this era, there was no Du Niang.

No one would have thought that in a few decades, these things would be known to anyone in the world who has access to the Internet.

Using this to deceive the Soviets, I didn't expect it to work so well.

"I just don't know, RD-33 engine, whether we can get it. Of course, if your country is willing to sell technology, I think, we are very happy to do that. "Before the change, Xie Kai won't mention it.

The Soviets really wanted to sell, and the 404 couldn't afford it.

As long as the Soviets sold it, they went back and digested it while improving it, and went directly in the direction of RD-93. Although Lao Maozi's heart is very dark, the performance of the RD-93 provided to the Thunder Dragon fighter is even inferior to the RD-33 used by the MiG-29, but it is much better than that of the domestic one.

It's just that Lao Maozi is unlikely to sell the entire set of engine technology now, let alone the production line.

Even they sold the Su-27 and Su-30 production lines, and the most core components such as the engine were not sold technology, and after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Lao Maozi sold the engine to China for more than 20 years.

It was not until the success of the Taihang used by Jian-10 that this situation was changed.

Even the J-20 was an imported engine at the beginning, and finally changed history until the turbofan-15 was successfully developed.

For the sake of these engines, the Russians even tied up the junk fighters SU-35 of their production!

Shekaibi understood to everyone that it was not very possible to get the full set of Soviet engine technology.

"Selling technology is not on our radar. As for the engine, the price is right and negotiable. Kaletovsky collected his mood and asked, "How many do you need?"

"Old driver, technology is really not negotiable?" Xie Jianguo also wanted technology.

The latter shook his head directly, without any hesitation.

"Can the RD-33 engine be sold?" Xie Jianguo continued to ask.

For a moment, Kaletovsky was stunned.

Nima!

Father and son said so much, isn't it just for the RD-33 engine?

Xie Jianguo, a bastard, actually sang a duet with his son, and sure enough, he was still the sinister and cunning person he used to be, and the years did not make him change a little.

"Can the RD-33 engine be sold?" Xie Jianguo asked again, a smile on his face. "We came with sincerity. ”

"$3 million for a unit. Kaletovsky did not talk any more nonsense, and directly doubled the price that was originally set.

He wants to make the Chinese pay.

"It's not so easy to grab money, isn't it?" Uncle driver, let's not look at your friendship with my father, but also see the impact of this transaction on the improvement of relations between the two countries, right?" Xie Kai understood that the Soviets were so enthusiastic about offering engines in order to improve relations between the two sides.

The RD-33 engine has 50 kN without thrust, and the maximum thrust is only 81.4 kN, and the maximum thrust of a single engine is 8,300 kg.

The Soviets were embarrassed to ask for $3 million for such an engine.

Xie Kai ruthlessly reported the performance data of the RD-33 engine accurately.

Even threats were raised.

Failure to do so would likely undermine the skillful plan to seek to improve relations between the two countries.

"If you are not sincere, there is no need to continue. Since they are old friends, they eat together, drink and go home. Xie Jianguo is also angry.

He didn't know whether the specific performance parameters Xie Kai said were true or false, but he could see it from the other party's facial reaction.

Such an engine, one is only three million, and the fighter of the Super Seven Project is to be equipped with such an engine, according to Xie Kai's kind of performance indicators, one must have two anyway.

Even, neither of them could make a take-off weight of more than 16,000 kg.

Carrying 7 tons of ammunition is tantamount to a fantasy.

I was embarrassed to ask for $3 million.

"This is one of the most advanced fighter engines in the world!"

"Don't you understand bullying?" Xie Jianguo said disdainfully, "Forget it, don't talk about it." Let's have dinner together in the evening and go home tomorrow, and we'll talk to the Americans or the French. ”

"Don't!" Karletovsky knew that Xie Jianguo was pretending, and he did it on purpose.

But he couldn't really make it happen.

What if people do talk to the Americans or the French?

The Soviet Union was aware of the fighter plane cooperation project between China and the United States.

Eggs are not placed in the same basket, which is the usual method of the Chinese.

"We couldn't accept the price. You must know that the only one medium air superiority fighter we have developed is not more than $20 million per aircraft, and your engine will account for one-third of the cost......" Xie Jianguo sighed.

Xie Kai's eyes widened.

When did Daddy learn to fool people? Didn't he always disdain to run the train?

Xie Kai felt that his mouth full of running trains was not changed by rebirth, but inherited from his father.

It can really blow.

"Uncle driver, your country is in contact with Persia to negotiate, and a MiG-29 fighter is only quoted at 23 million, right?" Xie Kai seemed to think that the other party was not shocked enough. Even so, the Persians were too expensive. According to our information, the cost of a basic model of the MiG-29 is only about 8 million US dollars, equipped with weapons and equipment, etc., plus some advanced avionics systems, the cost is only 15 million US dollars......"

Obviously, the price Xie Kai said is close to the truth.

The MiG is already much worse than the F-16.

The international selling price is generally only 20 million or 30 million US dollars.

The heart is black enough to quote the engine to $3 million a unit.

Even in the nineties, the AL-31 engine was exported to China for more than two million to three million dollars per engine, which was still the price after inflation.

"Of course, if your country is willing to sell AL-31, I think that if this price is less, we can cooperate very happily. "Xie Kai takes retreat as advance.

Even if the AL-31 engine is bought, it doesn't seem to be of much use.

Unless you go to the J-10 project now.

Rong Fei is already working on it, but there should be no specific plan yet.

"Let's talk about RD-33. Don't you have a saying in China that you ask for a sky-high price, and pay back when you land?" said Kaletovsky.

His hair made Xie Kai roll his eyes.

The aircraft engine is not a cabbage, and it is a special sky-high asking price, and the money is paid back when it lands.

But when he thinks of the Soviets' problems, he can understand them.

When the little devil talked to the Soviets about Toshiba's five-axis machine tool, the Soviets only bargained for 20%, which made the little devil jump with joy.

According to the custom of the Soviets, it was all bargaining, bargaining, bargaining.

The little devils know that it is a miracle that the Soviets are still 20% in the negotiation process, and it is already very good to be able to make a deal in 50%.

Because of this, Toshiba exported five five-axis machining centers to the Soviets, each at a price of 5 million US dollars, and the little devils were ready to stop the negotiations directly because the Soviets were too ruthless. As a result, the Soviets killed only two percent of the price.

This thing is too important for the huge nuclear submarine force of the Soviet Union.

"For $500,000 each, we purchased 100 units in the first batch. Xie Kai counter-offered.

Xie Jianguo's eyes widened.

"Are you kidding? It's not cabbage, it's the most advanced turbofan engine in the world!" Chekov jumped.

Now they are faced with others bargaining, so they naturally can't stand it when they encounter such a situation.

"Didn't Uncle Sky say that the price was all over the place, and the money was paid back on the ground?" Xie Kai said calmly.

It was the turn of the Soviets who were not happy, "Even if you make a counteroffer, you can't bargain like this." You don't have any sincerity, as your father said, let's have dinner together in the evening, and then go back to our respective homes......"

Xie Kai also paid the price, and it was not even enough for the cost.

Such an engine, half a million dollars, where there is a sale, the USSR itself still wants.

"Mr. Kaletovsky, if you really want to cooperate, I think you need to make a sincere offer. If it goes on like this, it won't do any good for either side. Xie Jianguo said calmly.

The offer of the Soviets, it was simply too high.

The engine reaches such an extent that if one is produced, one will be lost.

"Moreover, the thrust of your engine cannot be used in our project, and in order to meet the design parameters, we must make design modifications and use twin engines...... If you are willing to provide AL-31 vector engines, I think we can give a price of $2.2 million per engine. "Xie Kai again said something about engines that the Soviets could not sell.

At his psychological price, an RD-33 engine can definitely not exceed 1.2 million dollars.

If you use twin engines, two engines, and the entire Thunder fighter, it will cost $2.4 million.

"The RD-33 not only has small thrust, but also has very high fuel consumption, I don't think I need to explain this, right?" Xie Kai felt that the shortcomings of this engine must be pointed out.

Chekov laughed, "Young man, you can't just make up excuses and reasons for the sake of lower prices!"

"Yes, who said that the fuel consumption of our RD-33 engine is very high? Except for the thrust is a little smaller, it is very fuel-efficient in the same type of fighter engine. ”

"There is no more fuel-efficient engine of the same type than the RD-33 engine. ”

The rest of the Soviets refuted Xie Kai's words.

"Really?" Xie Kai sneered, "Although the MiG-29 equipped with the RD-33 has a maximum range of 2,100 kilometers, the combat radius seems to be less than 580 kilometers, I don't know if our news is wrong! Even, the MiG-29 can be called the short-legged king ...... of the same type of fighters."

"Bang!" Xie Kai's words made Kaletovsky slap the table with a twisted face and stand up.