364 Without the help of the United States, you will not be able to figure it out for fifty years
"Nonsense! I don't know what impact your words will have? You still dare to come to me!" Long Yaohua severely criticized Zheng Yucheng who was smiling in front of him, "Be serious!"
"Okay, leader, I'll ...... seriously" Zheng Yucheng tried not to let himself laugh.
The anger in Long Yaohua's heart, being messed up like this by Zheng Yucheng, he couldn't vent it at all.
"The people at Grumman have sent a note to the Chinese side asking that you must be dealt with seriously. Long Yaohua looked at Zheng Yucheng, "Your irresponsible remarks have even affected other cooperation projects." ”
"Leader, I have failed the organization's cultivation of me, I am sorry for the trust of my superiors, and I am willing to accept any punishment decision. Zheng Yucheng said seriously, "However, this matter was not our fault in the first place......
Zheng Yucheng explained what happened as it was.
Long Yaohua looked at Zheng Yucheng, what happened was already known before Zheng Yucheng came.
In the cooperation of Project 82, the US side did show arrogance and arrogance, and the Chinese personnel could only accompany the smiling faces for the sake of technology and in order to learn the design and manufacturing process of advanced fighters from the United States.
Even so, the Americans have been dragging their feet in the process of cooperation and refusing to allow Chinese technicians to participate in core technology projects.
Therefore, Zheng Yucheng's behavior is actually helping some people get angry.
For a while, Long Yaohua didn't know how to speak.
Originally, he was going to train Zheng Yucheng and ask him not to follow his original stinky temper when negotiating with foreign companies in the future.
was reprimanded by Zheng Yucheng's tricks.
It is not in line with the rules if it is not dealt with seriously.
"Super Seven Project, how are you going to solve the problem of the engine?" Long Yaohua asked Zheng Yucheng. "The Americans said that they don't supply engines, and we can't ...... at home Don't even think about building your fighter planes for fifty years!"
"What? they say that?" Zheng Yucheng jumped up. "Fifty years! What can't we build! Didn't they say we couldn't build the atomic bomb and the hydrogen bomb back then?"
Zheng Yucheng was even angrier in his heart.
Americans' dog-eyed eyes are too contemptuous of people.
"There are some cases that are true. We have to admit it!" Long Yaohua was also uncomfortable because of this, but he couldn't refute it.
No Chinese can argue with it.
"They don't even know the detailed parameters of the project, so they just talk nonsense! The American devils are too arrogant. Zheng Yucheng said.
"If you want them to shut up, you must use things and results to speak! Use facts to force them to speak!" Long Yaohua looked at Zheng Yucheng and said helplessly, "And the current situation in China ...... Our most advanced fighters can't even cope with the MiG-25 fighters and Tu-22M Backfire bombers, and the Soviets already have a new generation of advanced fighters to equip the troops......"
"Give us ten years!" Zheng Yucheng knew what Long Yaohua's purpose was in saying this, "No, as long as it takes five years......!
"How do you solve the engine problem?" asked Long Yaohua. "Some things can't be guaranteed to work, the foundation is too thin!"
Don't blame Long Yaohua for not having confidence.
But the Americans said that they couldn't do it in 50 years, which is too infuriating.
"USSR, we can import engines from the USSR. Zheng Yucheng gritted his teeth and said.
Long Yaohua looked at him with an incredulous expression, it is difficult to import engines from the Soviet Union now.
Although relations between the two countries are gradually returning to normal, it is a national thing, and it is unlikely that there will be much in the short term.
"There's no way to connect with this. Long Yaohua said, "Even if the engine is imported from the Soviet Union, the initiative is in their hands." Originally, I wanted you to get into the engine project and develop an engine as soon as possible. Only in this way can we grasp the initiative. ”
Zheng Yucheng couldn't answer for a while.
404 meddling in the engine project?
It is a project that burns more money than fighters, and all kinds of basic technologies are very big challenges.
"Leader, we still think that it is more reliable to import engines from the USSR. Although it is very difficult, we do not take the diplomatic route, just people-to-people cooperation, as long as the above approves our negotiating team to go to the Soviet Union......" Zheng Yucheng clearly knows the situation of the engine.
The Yun Ten is also lacking in engines.
The Turbofan-8 seems to have been successful, and has even conducted dozens of hours of air testing.
But it has stopped.
"I hope you can take over the turbofan-8 just like you took over Yun Shi. Your Yun 10 has come out, and there is no engine, what should I do?" Long Yaohua did not answer Zheng Yucheng about 404 going to the Soviet Union to negotiate the introduction of engines.
Instead, it was proposed to let the 404 take over the engine supporting the Yun Ten, turbofan eight team.
"You agreed?" Xie Kai jumped up when he heard this, "Do you know how much investment is needed to build an aero engine? From materials to manufacturing processes and manufacturing equipment, everything requires a huge investment! Moreover, the turbofan 8 is originally only a civilian engine, and it is necessary to develop a military fighter engine on this basis?"
He never imagined that things would turn out like this.
"The American devils say that we won't be able to do it in 50 years!" Zheng Yucheng said angrily, "If we don't take over, the development of the turbofan-8 will not be able to proceed......"
"What we want is a fighter engine!" Xie Kai said angrily, "Turbofan eight, even Yun Ten can't be used!"
Fortunately, a few JT3Ds were imported from the United States.
"The American devils are so arrogant, if we don't do it, how can we shut them up?" Zheng Yucheng asked Xie Kai rhetorically. "Besides, you're not just a middleman, what kind of project is the base doing, what do you care about doing like this?"
"Lao Zheng, isn't this matter still inconclusive?" Wang Guilin saw that Zheng Yucheng was getting angrier and angrier the more he spoke, and hurriedly spoke, "Xie Kai, you have to understand Lao Zheng's mood, if you are anyone, it is impossible to be indifferent when you hear such words." ”
"The state should invest in these big projects! Our base simply cannot support it. At present, even the project funding of the Super Seven Project has not been resolved. "It's not that Xie Kai doesn't understand.
When Americans say such things, they make anyone feel aggrieved.
"What's more, the Americans are talking about fighters, not engines...... "Xie Kai deceived himself. "The engine thing, let's talk about it later when we have money. ”
The engine, that's a completely bottomless pit.
"No, we don't need to invest much. Whether it's turbofan six or turbofan eight, it's almost on the verge of success. ”
Xie Kai didn't know how Long Yaohua persuaded Zheng Yucheng, but when he heard Zheng Yucheng say that he would use the technical basis of the turbofan-6 engine to develop an advanced domestic aero engine, he was a little frightened.
"This can't be done, even if another project is established, we can't use turbofan six as the basis to develop our engine!" Xie Kai said firmly, "Lao Zheng, if you have to insist, not only will I not do anything for the base anymore, but even if I become a middleman, I will not do it!" I will not seek project ......."
In any case, Xie Kai couldn't have let the turbofan-6 trap them.
In the nineties, the J-8III was dismounted because of the problem with the turbofan-6 engine, which led to an explosion and disintegration during the test flight.
The turbofan six engine, that is, the Kunlun engine, began the preliminary design in October 64, until it was dismounted in 82, after 18 years, it seems to be successful on the surface, Xie Kaibi knows better than anyone that this engine is absolutely unwanted.
When the project was established in the sixties, the performance index of the turbofan VI was surprisingly high - a 12.6-ton high-thrust turbofan engine!
So, even the R&D team itself didn't know that the data was credible.
In such a situation, how can Xie Kai agree?
When the time comes, the entire 404 will be pitted to death by such a foundation.
"Why not? If you don't want to, we can't do it?" Zheng Yucheng said disdainfully.
Xie Kai had been hiding before, and he had long been unhappy.
Now that the Americans say that they will not be able to do it in 50 years, Zheng Yucheng is holding his breath and has to use the shortest possible time to complete it, and severely slap the arrogant face of the American devils.
"Do you understand the situation of the turbofan six? Why did you get off the horse? This is the engine with the best technical performance and the largest thrust in China!" Xie Kai knew that without giving a reason, it would be impossible for these bigwigs of the management committee who were holding their breath because of the contempt of the Americans to definitely take the turbofan six and use it.
It seems that the Turbofan Six is the most suitable engine for the Super Seven project.
The performance indicators are the same as those of the Taihang engine used by the J-10.
After the successful development of the Taihang engine, the quality was unreliable at the beginning, and it took many years to solve it, and finally it was equipped with the Air Force in large quantities.
"Don't we have any information in our hands?" Wang Guilin asked Xie Kai, "At first we forgot about this project. ”
In their opinion, the performance of turbofan six can fully meet the super seven project.
They didn't care before, otherwise they had already signed a contract with Pakistan.
"How much of these information, the data above, is credible?" Xie Kai sighed, "Everyone knows the situation of the Turbofan No. 6 project that year. Without any foundation, engage in this ......"
"Do you suspect they're falsifying the data?
"Is it just because of a lack of money that the state has dismounted the engine that has already achieved results and is still the world's advanced?" Xie Kai said disdainfully. "If that's the case, why are there still some key projects that have not made breakthroughs, but are still investing?"
Zheng Yucheng and others also began to doubt for a while.
The dismount of the turbofan six is indeed worth asking.
This is the project of the 606 Research Institute in the Northeast, and many of the bigwigs above have been upgraded from there and have a deep feeling.
"Therefore, turbofan six, basically there is no use, if you really want to do it, re-establish the project, it is more reliable than this!"