It is not always the first time to show weakness is to be at a disadvantage, and sometimes you are at a disadvantage and can bring more benefits to your negotiation. As the saying goes, "barefoot people are not afraid of wearing shoes", anyway, I'm like this, you can see it clearly, you can make a move, I will continue to make any moves, that's what it means, it's a bit of a scoundrel, but I have to say that this trick is still very effective in many cases.

Yulia, who is already shrewd and about to become a master. Although Tymoshenko has not heard of this old Chinese saying, he must understand the meaning, because this woman is now using this trick.

"Although the current situation of these companies is not good, it has a very important impact on the national security of our country, and I think you yourself are very aware of this, Miss Alice." I found the Yulia I felt when I was talking. Tymoshenko tried to direct the direction of the current conversation to the channel she was accustomed to, and continued...... "So how can we not only ensure China's national security when cooperating, but also ensure that both sides of the cooperation can make money, and ensure that China's enterprises that are not doing well can reverse the current unfavorable situation?" This can be achieved. It is what the Ukrainian government expects to be able to play a positive role in the defense of our country. ”

"As for not posing a threat to our national security, it's simpler, to use an analogy. Assuming that your Alice Group is able to successfully cooperate with our Antonov Design Bureau, due to the unique sensitivity of military technology and its importance to our national strategy, the Alice Group must ensure that the technology of the Antonov Design Bureau is not transferred to the outside world, and that there is no very positive circulation of researchers from the Antonov Design Bureau

The meaning of Yulia Tymoshenko's words is already very obvious, although these points are common practice that everyone knows before the military-industrial complex, but now the current situation in Ukraine, no one is sure what everyone will think in their hearts, since this is the case, it is better to compare it on the surface at the beginning

Good.

"Of course, in this. In the process, everyone is a win-win. Since it is cooperation, it is only right that everyone has money to earn. Yulia Tymoshenko added at the end.

"May I ask Ms. Yuyia, you said that this cooperation is a win-win situation, but why do we only see the benefits won by your Ukrainian side and the Antonov Design Bureau, and do not see what benefits our Alice Group can get?" waited until Yulia finished Tymoshenko finished her words, and then Jill smiled and launched a sharp counterattack against Yulia Tymoshenko.

"If it's just for one party and benefits, I'm afraid it's hard to achieve such a cooperation, right? What you said all about you just now is about how you are in Ukraine, how you are about the Antonov Design Bureau. However, cooperation can only be achieved if it is beneficial to both parties, which is the basic premise of cooperation. Forgive me for my limited vision, if it were according to you, I really didn't see how we at Alice Group would be able to make a profit? Can Ms. Eucia please give me some questions? Jill said with a smile.

As soon as Jill's words came out, the people on the Ukrainian government side on the other side suddenly broke out in a cold sweat, and their hearts were instantly raised to their throats: Hell! When have you discussed this yourself?

If it makes a bad impression on the Alice Group at this time, it is really bad.

"This," Yulia Tymoshenko said after a moment's hesitation, still somewhat apologetically. "Miss Jill, I'm sorry, but we already have a whole set of ways to make our partners profitable as well. But that's what we show to our partners. If the Alice Group really wants to cooperate with the Antonov Design Bureau, we will take this out when the time comes, but for now

Saying that, Yulia, Ji Zhenshenko made an embarrassed expression and signaled to Gil: After all, we are not partners now, just give an example of this matter, I can't show you this Xixi.

In fact, she and the Ukrainian government don't have such a big thing at all, and this thing is something that she came up with and added on her own.

"Man." Jill nodded and said, "Please continue." gesture to show that there is no problem with yourself.

Although Gil knew in his heart that this was probably poking at Yulia Tymoshenko's vulnerability, and their Ukrainian government did not negotiate such a thing, but business negotiations were originally like this, although they had to fight for their own benefits, they should not be too self-conscious when necessary, and they should save some face for their opponents.

Seeing that Jill did not continue to dwell on this issue, the people on the Ukrainian government side present collectively breathed a sigh of relief: If Jill really continues to be entangled, they really don't know how to answer this question, how do you let them answer what is not there in the first place?

But now they've decided. After I went back, I just asked a question, or the next time I talked about the compensation with the Elite Group, I would like to "how should I answer?" Or answer with Yulia Tymoshenko's answer? Don't be funny, you can use this method once, and if you use it again, it will be disrespectful to others and yourself.

In fact, it is precisely because it involves the national level and national security that the personnel of both sides participating in the negotiations will be more entangled and naked in the entanglement of interests, and many issues will be directly laid on the surface.

A glamorous signing ceremony after successful negotiations. It's just the final product of the entanglement of various interests behind it, and it's normal for people to quarrel behind their backs and even take off their leather shoes and knock on the table.

"Oh, then since you recommended the Antonov Design Bureau to me, what are your conditions or requirements for our cooperation with the Antonov Design Bureau?" Alice nodded, signaling that she had fully understood what the Ukrainian government meant, and then asked Yulia Tymoshenko.

Got to the point so quickly? Hearing Alice ask this question, the people on the Ukrainian government side who participated in this meeting couldn't help but be overjoyed, and it seemed that things were going smoothly beyond their imagination.

If these guys knew that the reason why Alice made her decision so quickly, just because Zhang Lan was starting to be a little unaccustomed to eating here these days and wanted to return to China, I don't know, what would these guys who are now a little proud in their hearts think? Or will it vomit blood? ,

However, having said that, military cooperation has always been quite complicated, and it is not a problem for a military procurement to last about 0 years, and it is not unusual for military cooperation to last more than 10 or 20 years from negotiation to success. So now it's just Alice setting the tone for the matter, as for the negotiation process going forward. Leave it to the company's negotiators, and take your time. As for the Ukrainian side, I believe that they are already poor and crazy, if they really see signs of cooperation from the Alice Group, I believe that they will not let go of this life-saving straw.

"You can invest in the Antonov Design Bureau, which will return to the Alice Group with a gradual growth and strength in the future." Although this is quite unspeakable, in the negotiations, Yulia Tymoshenko also said that at this moment, it can only say the first goal set by Ukraine before. Although Yulia Tymoshenko also knew that a smart person like Alice would never agree with what she said, she would not agree with this stupid way of doing things.

"This is similar to the way venture capital is commonly used internationally, right?" Alice asked with a smile, "Our Alice Group invested in the Antonov Design Bureau, in the future daily operation and management, we must not be concerned about the daily operation and management of the Antonov Design Bureau, just to ensure the safety of our own funds, and send the necessary financial personnel in the Antonov Design Bureau." When the Antonov Design Bureau grows up to maturity enough, we will slowly withdraw from the Antonov Design Bureau with the money we earned, right? Alice asked with a smirk, with a hint of sarcasm in her tone, "Your plan is indeed very good." ”

When we are Lei Feng and cows? Take our money to feed your self-bowing company, and we can't earn anything but money? If that's the case, we'd better invest in the Internet than in you. Since the military industrial enterprises are not as good as the current four industries in terms of profitability, then if we do not occupy any advantage in terms of capital returns, we naturally have to get some compensation in other aspects.

As soon as Alice said this, everyone's faces suddenly felt embarrassed. Alice's words were already so obvious, and everyone here was not idiots, how could they not hear it?

"Miss Alice" looked at the current atmosphere and seemed to be a little nervous, and there was a deputy prime minister in charge of economic work next to her, so she had to pull a bend at that time, "This kind of venture capital is actually good, and this method is also the most popular way of cooperation in the world." For your company, the rate of return is also very impressive, the high profitability of military products, and you yourself have military products. You should know how much this will give you. ”

Venture capital is the most popular form of collaboration? Pull it up! Zhang Lan pouted disdainfully: You said that this is similar in the emerging music industry, biotechnology industry, microelectronics and other emerging high-tech industries, but this kind of cooperation is placed in military enterprises? When everyone else is stupid.