Wu Hao thought for a while and said: "It would be good if the country could take the lead, but the country is more of a regulating and guiding role, and we still need to work our own."

To put it bluntly, the question of interests. As long as there is sufficient interest, the project can be promoted.

However, the investment in the field of chip manufacturing is huge, the uncertainty is too great, and it is difficult to see benefits in a short period of time, I am afraid that there will not be too many companies really willing to join. ”

"You're right, corporate companies focus on profits, but in addition to interests, there are also righteousness and responsibility.

Of course, if you want to promote this project, you still have to rely on market operations. So my suggestion is to pull some more forces to come in and jointly build our domestic Asmail.

I believe that all parties involved in this project will be interested, especially those companies that are suffering from the chip dilemma and are interested in developing the chip industry.

Like H Wei, H Kang, Dajiang, and other mobile device manufacturers, communication equipment companies, and some other Internet companies, such as us, and our old rival Penguin.

Even, the national side will be involved. After all, if we can develop and manufacture our own lithography machine, it will also be of great significance for national strategic security. ”

Wu Hao smiled and quipped when he heard this: "What, are you willing to involve penguins, your old rival?" ”

Hahaha, in fact, the two of us are just a conflict of interests, and my personal relationship with Pony is still very good.

Lao Ma said with a smile: "Now all major Internet companies are transforming, especially some large-scale Internet companies. If there is no hardware support, then Internet companies alone are like castles in the air, and their ability to resist risks is too poor.

For example, the cloud service that several of our major Internet companies are engaged in at present, can you say that it is just the Internet?

And now all major companies like to engage in unmanned driving, which is not just supported by bald system software.

Walking on two legs is always safer than walking on one leg. ”

Wu Hao nodded when he heard this: "I have no opinion, with so many giants joining, this project will run more smoothly."

But with so many companies on board, who is dominant? ”

Hearing Wu Hao say this, Lao Ma smiled and said: "Market-led, technology-led, value-led." Instead of arguing in this regard, it is better for no one to reach out and directly hand it over to more professional talents to manage. ”

Wu Hao thought for a while and said, "To be honest, in this regard, I have thought about doing this project alone. ”

"I'm not surprised that you have this idea, and I think you have the ability to do that too. But I think there is strength in numbers, and there are some things that are better for everyone to work together.

Let's take a step back and say, even if you come up with a lithography machine that can produce advanced process chips, do you think you can withstand such a big internal and external pressure?

Young people, money can never be earned, and the pros and cons are cleared.

As an important technology provider and heavy participant, as well as the initiator of the project, you have the capital to sit with other participants and negotiate the conditions, and you can also decide the direction of the project, do you understand what I mean? Lao Ma said with a smile, in this regard, he really felt that Wu Hao was a young man.

For this young man whom he admires very much, he does not hesitate to pick it up.

Wu Hao nodded and said, "I understand what you mean, and that's why I'll talk about this matter at the technology promotion meeting."

If I hadn't had that, I wouldn't have had to say that. Of course, how to move forward with this project still needs to be carefully considered. ”

Lao Ma nodded with a smile and said, "I believe that the representatives of all parties are already on their way to Anxi, and even if they don't come, they should call." In this regard, you can first ask people to communicate with them and find out their opinions.

In this way, the Wuzhen Summit is coming soon, and we can take this opportunity to invite everyone over and have a good chat.

I heard that I sent you an invitation last year, but you didn't come, but this year, let's have a drink and have a good chat. ”

"You Internet bigwigs are talking and laughing together, so I don't need to participate, I can't enter the circle, and I can't interject." Wu Hao said with a smile.

"Hahaha, who said you can't get into the circle. The virtual world of your Haoyu technology, the intelligent system is booming, who dares to say that you are not a giant in the Internet field.

I'll ask someone to send you another invitation, come over quickly, a lot of people want to get to know you. Lao Ma nodded him in the video and smiled.

Wu Hao laughed when he heard this: "When you say this, I don't dare to go over." ”

Hahahaha......

"End of call!"

"Sir, during your call just now, Mr. Tao Zhengyang of H, Mr. Tang Fusheng of B Yaqi, and Director Wang Lianggong of the Bureau of Science and Industry all called."

"Got it." Wu Hao responded, and then smiled at Zhang Jun and Yang Fan, who were sitting on the side, and said, "Look, the calls are coming." ”

Zhang Jun said with a smile: "Tao Zhengyang should be here for the 3D full-curved screen and wireless remote charging technology, and Tang Fusheng should be here for the third generation of new lithium batteries." As for Director Zhao of the Bureau of Science and Industry, I think it should be because of the hexagonal honeycomb compound lens technology and the miniature multi-tentacle robot.

Of course, these three companies may also be the same as Lao Ma, and they are also interested in our composite lens processing technology and lithography machines.

Why, do you really plan to involve these enterprises and capital forces in this project, as Lao Ma said? ”

"Lao Ma is right, we are weak, even if we build a lithography machine, it is difficult to withstand internal and external pressure. So we still need more forces to get involved and share the pressure for us.

But to get those involved, this has to be carefully considered. Wu Hao pondered.

Yang Fan, who was sitting on the side, spoke at this time: "I am not optimistic about the participation of these capitals, they are seeking benefits to put it bluntly. The investment in this project is huge, and it is difficult to see returns in a short period of time, which is contrary to the concept and purpose of these capitals.

While they will be active for the sake of immediate gain, once they are involved, it is a destabilizing factor. Let's not talk about who can guarantee that they will not suddenly change their minds and affect the progress of our project.

It is said that under the influence of these capitals, the project will deteriorate over time. It has become a tool for these capitals to make money, and has lost the original meaning of this project. ”

"You're right, that's why we'll have to think carefully about letting those people in." Wu Hao said with a smile: "Besides, it is not necessarily a bad thing for capital to join in, in the initial stage of research and development, we do need more funds."

Moreover, compared with the various demands of other companies, the demands of capital and the purpose from beginning to end are very pure, that is, money and profit.

They are much easier to deal with than they are. ”

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