said that he would take office, and in the face of the problem of high pragmatism, Liu Xin immediately proved his worth.

"Everyone in the world says that Gao Longwen knows the sky and the earth, and turns stones into gold, so far, the industries involved have made huge profits, and he is really a first-class business wizard in the world." Coming to the big book case with Gao Shishi, Liu Xin spread out a large map of East Asia and said such an opening statement.

Gao Pragmatic looked at the map of East Asia in front of him, which was obviously handdrawn by Liu Xin himself, and said modestly: "It's too famous." ”

Who knew that Liu Xin was stunned, and said directly: "A business wizard may be true, especially if you are particularly good at collusion between officials and businessmen." However, in my opinion, if you abandon business and look at industry alone, then you have a lot of problems in building an industrial system over the years. If I have to say that there is a place that can barely be seen, I'm afraid it will be a Kaiping.

Except for Kaiping, your industrial planning is completely a hammer in the east and a stick in the west, but the sparks are far from being systematic. You may not agree with me when I say this, after all, so far, Jinghua can be said to be at a loss in the industry, and it can't find an opponent at all, but you must know that this does not mean that Jinghua is strong, but that the opponent in this era is too weak. ”

Gao Pragmatic had only been a grassroots cadre for a few years, and he would not be annoyed when he heard the "contrary advice", and said when he heard the words: "It makes sense, so what problems do you think Jinghua has in the industry now?" ”

Liu Xin said: "I have thought about it when I have nothing to do in the past few years, and the industries you are engaged in now - or handicrafts - are too scattered. As I just said, except for Kaiping, the industries in other places are too simple, not only inefficient, serious waste of resources, and even a great waste of capacity. ”

Gao Shishi frowned slightly, nodded and said: "This point does exist, but I am not completely unconsidered, especially regarding the issue of transportation capacity, I have tried my best to choose areas near the river or the sea to establish workshops and workshops. ”

"But they can't form a production chain in the sense we're used to, and they can't be an industrial base. For example, if you are in a coal mine and a porcelain factory near Xinzheng, I don't see any connection between the two, and there is no effect that one plus one is greater than two.

In addition, the cement factory near Weihui is also very strange, although there is another coal mine there to supply fuel, but what is the purpose of this single cement factory there? It is possible to use the Yellow River waterway as a transportation route, but the local demand for cement in Henan has in fact been greatly reduced since the flooding of the middle and lower reaches of the Yellow River has been controlled, and the cost of transporting it from Weihui to other provinces has increased in vain...... How do you explain this? ”

Gao pragmatic smiled: "To the point." All of this makes sense, but as for the explanation...... When these factories and mines were first built, the 'one center' I really planned was Kaiping, and now only Kaiping can be said to have a relatively complete industrial production chain, and most of the rest of the places are adapted to local conditions, and there is no too detailed and in-depth long-term planning, but there is a reason. ”

"What is the reason?" Liu Xin asked.

Gao pragmatically said: "Didn't you just say that I am good at 'collusion between officials and businessmen' - in fact, under a system like Daming, if you want to develop in business, the real power you can rely on will always come from officialdom, which will not be transferred by personal will or ideas."

Just like you said just now, the reason why the Liu family's pharmacy and medicinal material transportation can do a good job in Sichuan and Yunnan provinces is because there are 'people behind them'. In the same way, Jinghua's trading can reach the current level, in the final analysis, it depends on the people behind it. I can say that if I let another person use the means I used to build Jinghua, it is almost impossible for them to copy another Jinghua, because they don't have such a good political background as me.

The reason why I entered Beijing more than ten years ago and tried every means to get myself into close contact with the core people in the Ming political arena was precisely because I knew that no matter what I did in the Ming Dynasty, I could not do without the support of the imperial court, and there were actually two parts of the imperial court that really had strength: the emperor and the civil official group. ”

Liu Xin suddenly said: "No wonder I couldn't succeed at all when I wanted to do some business, but you can have a smooth journey, it turns out that there is such a story behind it." ”

Gao said with a wry smile: "The reason why China is always different from Western countries is probably also a deep-seated reason. Now the Western countries have begun to sail, but their courts are still bankrupt at every turn. For example, the current Spanish and Portuguese colonial empires, they seem to be very powerful, and the father of the current king, Philip II, Charles V, once said: "The sun never sets on my territory."

However, the Spanish Empire, the world's first empire on which the sun never sets, was often financially bankrupt and then defaulted on its debts - a situation that would not have occurred in the Ming Dynasty. Although the Ming Dynasty's fiscal system is worse than Spain's current one, there is a fundamental difference between the approaches of the two sides.

The main of these differences is that the Ming Dynasty does not have any consortium to lend to it, and no one will do so. In Spain, both the consortia in the Holy Roman Empire and the Italian consortia, including the Genoese consortia, were happy to lend money to the Spanish king, because theoretically, the Spanish king had endless gold and silver mines in the Americas, and he should not have a repayment crisis. ”

Liu Xin frowned: "I don't have much research on European history, so I don't know much about these aspects, I just want to know what is the reason why you told me this?" ”

Gao pragmatic said: "The reason is that I want to tell you that politics radiates from the center to the outside, and my political roots are in the north, especially in Jingshi, so the only place I can consider building a comprehensive industrial base is Kaiping, because other places are too far away, and I can't guarantee that those places can always be in the hands of me or the Shixue School."

I can build these factories and mines because of political factors, but if there is a political problem, these factories and mines may be seized and destroyed in an instant. ”

"Really? It can't be that serious, right? Liu Xin was a little surprised and asked: "You Xinzheng Gao's famous family, even if there are some political mistakes, but in the end it is still a civil official family, people don't look at the face of the monk and look at the face of the Buddha, so that even your family's property has to be sealed." ”

"Originally, this was the case, but because of my appearance, the Gao family is now pushing forward with reform even more than in the previous history. In this case, once our reform is finally done like Wang Anshi's reform, Wang Anshi can still get out of the way, at least not his family, but that is because of the special national conditions of the Song Dynasty, although the Ming Dynasty is also a civilian official, but it is not as warm and veinous as the political struggle of the Song Dynasty, so stick to the bottom line. ”

Gao Pragmatic sighed: "The political disputes of the Ming Dynasty will kill people, but it is not a sentence that can be stopped by degrading officials to the ends of the earth." ”

Liu Xin thought for a while, frowned, and said, "Then according to your meaning, the industrial system in the Ming Dynasty, do you plan to fully roll it out?" ”

"Not yet." Gao pragmatically emphasized: "Unless I can ensure that I have achieved absolute control politically, and that major changes are unlikely to occur in at least twenty years, the relatively complete industrial base in the Ming Dynasty will always remain only Kaiping." ”

Liu Xin tilted her head slightly and said, "Okay, you are the boss, you have the final say." So, what about outside of the Ming Dynasty? ”

"You mean Southern Xinjiang?" Gao Shishi groaned a little and asked, "What do you think?" ”

"What do I think? First of all, you have to tell me this question: Who is the southern Xinjiang in your heart? Liu Xin shrugged her shoulders: "I thought earlier that you were going to expand the territory for the Ming Dynasty, but then it didn't seem like it, and I always felt that you might treat Southern Xinjiang as a colony." But after a while, especially when I went to southern Xinjiang in person, I found out that it didn't seem to be a colony...... Can you trust me? If so, I wonder if you plan to set up another country in southern Xinjiang? ”

Gao pragmatic hesitated for a moment and said, "I can trust you, but I can't tell you the answer to this last question." ”

"Why?" Liu Xin was a little puzzled.

Gao pragmatically said: "Because the final decision depends on whether my reform in Daming can be completely successful in the end." If the reform in my mind can be completely successful, in fact, I prefer to make southern Xinjiang a part of the Ming Dynasty. But if my reforms don't succeed completely, then ...... That means I'll have to take a step back, and maybe let Southern Xinjiang exist in another way. ”

Liu Xin was silent for a while, then nodded: "Okay, although I don't know how far your so-called reform will be considered a complete success, but I think 'thorough' is the most difficult thing in the world, and I should first regard Southern Xinjiang as 'another way of existing'." ”

Gao pragmatic smiled bitterly: "You are free." ”

Liu Xin nodded and said, "Well, in that case, can I think that Southern Xinjiang is at least so far where you can completely 'radiate'?" ”

Gao Pragmatic pondered for a moment and nodded, "Yes." ”

"Okay, since Southern Xinjiang is now under your control, does Southern Xinjiang's industrial planning not need to be subject to such restrictions within the Ming Dynasty?"

"Yes."

Liu Xin smiled slightly and said, "And the core you chose for Southern Xinjiang is in Dingnan, right?" ”

"Yes."

"In that case, whatever you want to do with your industrial plan, I'll have to give you a military advice first." Liu Xin pointed to the Malay Peninsula on the map and asked, "When will you send troops south to seize the entire Malay Peninsula?" ”

Gao Pragmatic frowned and said, "Do you think this matter is urgent?" ”

"Very urgent, very urgent." Liu Xin said: "Now your Nanyang fleet has an advantage over the Portuguese, but as far as I know, Portugal seems to have been annexed by Spain, and the current king of Spain is also the king of Portugal at the same time. Once you get to that point, it's much harder for you to take Malacca easily.

As for the current southern Xinjiang of Beijing, not only the territory, but also the Nanyang Fleet was divided into two parts by the Malay Peninsula, which was a very unfavorable situation both militarily and commercially. I come from southern Xinjiang, and I know very well that many people in southern Xinjiang think that the strategy of the Malay Peninsula should be accelerated, of course, I don't know if this news has reached your ears. ”

"I did receive a lot of reports like this, but the situation is complicated now, and I was very busy some time ago, so I didn't make up my mind." Gao Pragmatic frowned and said: "Jinghua's current strength is almost on the verge of overdraft, you should know this, right?" ”

"I know." Liu Xin swept a few strands of hair from her sideburns and said, "But with all due respect, a large part of this is because you are a little anxious about the construction of Dingnan City. I even feel ...... Are you afraid that Huang Dutong will not live well in southern Xinjiang, so you want to build her a brand new capital city quickly? Then your pen is a little too big. ”

Gao pragmatic smiled dryly: "The capital or something, you better not talk nonsense." ”

Liu Xin glanced at him: "It was you who said that there is no third pair of ears here, so I spoke so casually." But well, since you're not allowed, I won't say it. ”

Gao pragmatic turned the topic back and pondered: "The matter of Spain and Portugal uniting to strengthen Malacca...... I don't think it's going to happen basically. ”

"Why?" Liu Xin asked, "Is it related to the situation in Europe?" ”

"Yes." Gao pragmatically replied: "The Portuguese Empire is only a co-monarchical political entity, and the interests between the two are ...... At least on the colonial side, it was completely conflictual. The Spaniards would have wanted to enter the Indian Ocean, but the Portuguese would have refused, and perhaps even guarded the Spaniards like thieves. However, the Portuguese are also willing to take advantage of Spain, and they may threaten me in the name of the Spanish Portuguese Alliance, but this will not affect my decision-making. ”

Liu Xin frowned and said: "I said that I don't know much about the situation in Europe, what I want to know more is some more direct situations, for example, if Jinghua sends troops south to the Malay Peninsula, is it possible for the Spaniards to stand out for the Portuguese?" ”

Gao Pragmatic thought for a moment, shook his head and said: "I don't think so, especially on the army side, I think it will definitely not." ”

"Why?" Liu Xin asked.

"The Spaniards themselves still have a butt to fight in Europe, how can they send troops to East Asia? I'm not a Native American, how many people does he want to fight with me on land? It's not for me to say, even if he comes with 20,000 or 30,000 people, it's useless. ”

Liu Xin frowned and said, "Twenty or thirty thousand is not much, how can you ...... your tone?"

Gao Shishi sneered: "Twenty or thirty thousand is not right for us, but it is not easy for you to let Spain transfer twenty or thirty thousand people." Besides, whether Philip II had the financial resources to mobilize 20,000 or 30,000 people to Asia, I don't think it's easy to say. ”

"In that case, I suggest again: take the Malay Peninsula as soon as possible." Liu Xin said: "Other things can be postponed, including industrial planning. ”

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