With the silver matter settled, Zhu Yijun was in a good mood, chatted with Gao Pragmatic for a few words, Gao Pragmatic dealt with it with a consistent attitude, and then changed the conversation and mentioned the Liaodong issue.

"By the way, the minister heard that Liaofu Li Song was sparse and asked Cao Yan to put Nikan Wailan back and let Nurhachi dispose of it, I don't know if it's true?"

It is true that there is something to be done, can the news from a cabinet assistant minister of Wu Dui be fake? Gao pragmatic asked this just to try not to implicate Wu Dui, so he pretended to be just a "rumor".

However, the Ming Dynasty "has its own national conditions here", and the news in the palace has always flowed out like a sieve, so Zhu Yijun didn't think much about it, and nodded when he heard the words: "There is such a thing...... Eh, don't tell me, I was about to ask you what you think. It seems that Cao Yan is saying, what do you mean by taking in Nikan Wailan? ”

"Not bad." Gao pragmatic said: "This matter was decided when the minister was in Liaodong, at that time Nikan Wailan was a little unsupported, the minister was about to enter Beijing at that time, so he told Cao Yan, in case Nikan Wailan was cornered, he would definitely come to Daming, and the minister asked him to decisively take in and protect it." ”

Zhu Yijun groaned and asked, "Why do you want to do this?" Nikan Wailan's gang had such a big advantage before, but he was defeated by Nurhachi in such a short period of time, which shows the incompetence of this person, and he is not a Han people, what is the use of me keeping him as a fetter chief? ”

The feudal areas are all divided according to their strength, for the stability of the frontier, and their chiefs are of course not "virtuous people live in it", but "powerful people live in it". Although Zhu Yijun's words seem a bit mean and unkind, it also depends on who he is dealing with, after all, he clearly said "It's not Hanmin", which shows that this attitude is specifically aimed at the area of bondage.

Gao pragmatic shook his head and said, "This matter is not that simple. The problem of the Jianzhou Jurchen ministers had carefully observed and thought about it when they were in Liaodong, including the investigation of Nikan Wailan and Nurhachi, and the ministers had several judgments. ”

Zhu Yijun nodded slightly: "Okay, you can talk about it." ”

Gao pragmatically said: "First of all, we can be sure of two points, one is that Nikan Wailan is good at management and not good at military affairs, and the other is that this person is indeed my loyal minister of the Ming Dynasty. ”

Zhu Yijun thought for a while and said, "Maybe, but so what, is Nurhachi disloyal?" ”

"Nurhachi seems to be a loyal vassal now, but his loyalty is not the same as that of Nikanwailan." Gao pragmatic replied conclusively.

Zhu Yijun sat up slightly straight: "What's the difference?" ”

"Nikan Wailan's loyalty is deep in his bones, and he is devoted to the Ming Dynasty, which can be seen from his devotion to learning Chinese and demanding that his subordinates do their best—he deeply hates that he is not a Han Chinese. Your Majesty, if you remember some of the analyses of the ministers when they discussed history with the ministers, you should understand that this kind of person is often more loyal than ordinary Han people. ”

That's right, this problem has been illustrated by examples before, and the reason is roughly equivalent to that after a traitor defects to a foreign race, he is often more loyal than the foreign race, because he has no way back at all, and can only go all the way to the dark.

The same is true of Nikan Wailan, who is rarely mentioned by his real name in the Jurchens, and is called "Nikan Wailan" - Han Chinese documents. What else can be doubted about this loyalty? Even if even Hanchen rebelled, this kind of person would not rebel.

Zhu Yijun nodded abruptly, and asked again: "What about Nurhachi?" I remember when I saw it, he stayed under Li Chengliang for several years, and then he was able to succeed, and you cultivated it? ”

Gao pragmatically said: "Both of these situations are true, but that doesn't mean anything. Ning Yuanbo's original situation, the minister was not a party, so it is difficult to comment too much, but the minister's so-called 'cultivating' Nurhachi is the right thing and not the right person. Under the circumstances at that time, the Jianzhou Left Guard was actually falling apart because of the death of Jue Chang'an, and if there was no suitable person to stabilize the situation, this Jianzhou Left Guard would sooner or later be annexed by Nikan Wailan......

"Huh? Wait, wait......" Zhu Yijun frowned and reminded: "You just said that Nikan Wailan is a loyal minister. ”

"He's a loyal servant, but what happens when he's dead?" Gao pragmatic spread his hands: "Nikan Wailan is already in his fifties, and it is not up to the minister to decide when he will die, in case his successor is not as loyal to me as he is in the future, and at that time, the guards of Jianzhou were unified by him, which is not a good thing for me Daming." Therefore, Nikan Wailan is a loyal minister, and we can be kind to him, and we can improve his status, but we can't always let him hold more real power and strength without restrictions. ”

Zhu Yijun nodded thoughtfully, and gestured for Gao Pragmatic to continue.

Gao pragmatic continued: "Actually, for Nurhachi, the minister also dealt with it like this. His role was to stabilize the Jianzhou Left Guard, but he was not like Nikan Wailan who admired and obeyed Da Ming from the bottom of his heart, so the minister planned to let him stop at the Jianzhou Left Guard. ”

"But he wanted to seek revenge on Nikan Wailan at the time, and you didn't stop him?" Zhu Yijun was obviously a little puzzled.

Gao pragmatic smiled: "Why should the minister stop it? Nikan Wailan was in a big position at that time, and there was almost a trend of unifying the state, so Nurhachi came forward to sing against him, and the two sides fought a game, which could prevent Jianzhou from becoming the second Hada and Yehe. And once Nurhachi wins, won't Nikan Wailan need to rely on me even more? ”

Zhu Yijun thought for a while: "But if Nurhachi loses at that time......

"Then Daming will support Nurhachi and help Nurhachi to the bottom." Gao pragmatic said indifferently: "The reason is very simple, you are fighting back and forth, which has affected the peace of my Ming border, so now I Ming want to mediate the long-cherished wishes of both sides, and ask both sides to guard the border and defend the border for my Ming Dynasty. ”

Zhu Yijun couldn't help laughing: "Good means." At that time, Nurhachi was newly defeated, and of course he wanted to 'guard the border', and Nikan Wailan was afraid of the Ming Dynasty and did not dare to continue the attack...... Well, I understand what you mean, you just want Nikan Wailan, who can't fight, to maintain an advantage in strength, but let Nurhachi, who can fight, be able to threaten him at any time, so that both sides will have to act according to my name. ”

Gao Pragmatic also smiled: "The original plan is indeed so. ”

Zhu Yijun sighed: "It's just that Nurhachi was too capable of fighting later, so there was an accident?" ”

"Hmm...... That's one thing. Gao Shishi was not modest: "However, if the minister is still in Liaodong, he will not let this happen, probably after Nurhachi establishes an advantage, the minister will intervene and let Nikan Wailan cede several cities to Nurhachi as a reparation for the 'accident' at that time, and then order Nurhachi to withdraw his troops." ”

Zhu Yijun was a little helpless: "This is an accident, if I didn't call you back at that time, I was afraid that the battle of Yunnan-Burma would be a little troublesome." ”

Hey, that's not just trouble, I'm afraid that the first battle of Yunnan-Burma will be fought like in the original history, pulling and pulling for more than ten years, and in the end, it is clear that the Ming Dynasty has the advantage in the war, but it is a clean loss of the foreign subordinate Xuanwei Division, which is simply speechless.

And the problem now is that when Gao Shishi was recalled to Beijing to report on his work, his Liaofu did not leave office, and later after being reappointed to the Ministry of War, the post of Liaofu was vacant for a period of time before being reappointed.

In other words, at that time, no one in Liaodong could decide how to deal with the situation of Jianzhou, creating a de facto power vacuum, so Nurhachi took advantage of the situation and won a big victory.

Gao pragmatic thought for a while and said: "Nurhachi behaved strongly outside Fushun Pass this time, and even asked Cao Yan to release him, forcing Qi Jin to personally lead troops from Shenyang to Fushun Pass, which in itself illustrates some problems. ”

Zhu Yijun frowned and said, "What's the problem?" Nurhachi is already in a position to control now? ”

"Not really." Gao Shishi shook his head: "Although his strength has increased greatly now, the territory of Jianzhou Right Guard has not been completely digested, and its core strength still comes from Jianzhou Left Guard, and it is not difficult to control at this time." However, he dared to show off his might outside Fushun Pass, which can show that he was testing my Daming......"

"Oh?" Zhu Yijun sneered, and said senran: "What does he want to test?" Try to see if his more than 3,000 soldiers can take Fushun Pass? ”

Gao Pragmatic shook his head slightly: "Of course he doesn't dare to really use swords with Da Ming now, what he said this means is to see if Da Ming will continue to indulge him because he doesn't want to see the instability of the frontier." ”

Zhu Yijun's face sank, and he said in a condensed voice: "You mean...... He guessed that my Da Ming was going to do something to the Tumen, so he thought that Da Ming would not waste his energy on him at this time? ”

Gao pragmatically nodded and said, "The minister thinks that eight or nine is not far from ten." ”

Zhu Yijun paid a little attention to it, frowned, and said: "Be pragmatic, I'm not questioning your judgment, but will you think highly of this guy?" Measure him as a Jurchen barbarian, can he have such a vision? ”

Gao Pragmatic knew that the Ming Dynasty at this time had a huge psychological advantage over the Jurchens, and the great enemy in the eyes of the Ming Dynasty was the Mongols, and the Jurchens were not ranked at all now, so Zhu Yijun would have such a mentality - after all, the Jurchens had been played by the Ming Dynasty for two hundred years, and it was unbelievable to suddenly say that they could have such a big picture.

But Nurhachi is clearly not an ordinary Jurchen, and this does not need to be explained. It's just that Gao Pragmatic couldn't say this, he could only say: "Your Majesty, the Ming Dynasty wants to do something to the Tumen, in fact, it is easy to see it in the surrounding areas of Liaodong, and it is not surprising that Nurhachi can see it." ”

"Why is that?" Zhu Yijun was a little puzzled, could it be that the secrecy work was pulling eggs again?

Gao pragmatic said: "After the battle of southern Liaoning, my Ming Dynasty defeated fried flowers and regained the Liaohe Hetao area, it stands to reason that it is convenient to tilt the center of gravity to the east of the Liaohe River at this time, but in fact, it is not. We are continuing to strengthen Liaoxi, and all kinds of strategic reserves, including armor, gunpowder, grain and grass, etc., are trying their best to hoard in Liaoxi, and as long as Nurhachi is not a fool, he can see that the center of gravity of the Ming Dynasty is in Liaoxi rather than Liaodong.

What can Liaoxi do with hoarding so many strategic reserves? The fried flowers are dead, and the only target in Liaoxi is only the Tumen, and the Ming Dynasty is of course doing this to continue to target the Chahar Department, and Nurhachi can conclude from this that the Ming must have planned to defeat the Tumen in one fell swoop and completely conquer the old enemy of Mongolia.

So in other words, before Da Ming defeated Tumen, no matter what he Nurhachi fought in Jianzhou, Da Ming should have tolerated it first. And he should also know that this period of time is the last window period for him to expand his strength, once Da Ming frees up his hand and turns to Liaodong with the remnants of conquering Mongolia, he may not have any chance.

In his opinion, the only chance is to take advantage of this to become bigger, and hope that the Ming will also suffer a lot in the process of conquering Chahar, so that he can unify the state...... Although the unification of the state cannot compete with the Ming Dynasty, if the Ming Dynasty is really injured at that time, he will have the opportunity to strive for the Ming Dynasty to acquiesce in his results, which can be regarded as achieving the goal. ”

After analyzing it like this, Zhu Yijun understood, and sneered: "The grasshopper shakes the tree." ”

However, having said that, Zhu Yijun really felt a little tricky for a while - as Gao Pragmatic analyzed, now the Ming Dynasty's forces in Liaodong are actually gathered in Liaoxi, and these forces are all prepared to deal with the Tumen, and they are not easy to use in Liaodong.

Again, the main problem here is money. Fighting a war will inevitably cost money, and this year not only is the court out of money, but the internal government is also empty because of King Lu's affairs, although Gao Pragmatic has come up with a lot of methods, and the prospects are optimistic enough, but after all, money is not a mouthful, and there must be an accumulation process.

Now the problem lies in time, if we wait for three years and five years, Tumen's problem is solved, and Nurhachi's trouble is certainly nothing. But now that the Tumen are still there, Zhu Yijun has even made up his mind to solve such a sensitive issue as the Zongfan, so obviously he will not give up the Xihuaidong system halfway because of this trivial matter of Nurhachi, and turn to Liaodong with troops.

Therefore, even if Zhu Yijun said that Nurhachi was a grasshopper shaking a tree, it was a pity that he couldn't spare his feet to trample on this grasshopper now.

It's annoying......

Zhu Yijun frowned deeply, thought for a while, and then asked, "Then what do you mean now...... Or take in Nikanwailan? ”

Gao pragmatically nodded, and said very simply: "Yes." ”

"What should I do about Nurha Chiyao's soldiers outside Fushun Pass?" Zhu Yijun said in a deep voice: "Qi Jin won't be angry for a while, and really go out to fight with Nurhachi, right?" I'm not afraid that he won't be able to beat him, but I'm afraid that Nurhachi will be beaten in the red eye, and the entire Jianzhou will be in turmoil...... But it's hard to say. ”

Gao pragmatically said: "On Nurhachi's side, the minister wrote a letter to warn him a few days ago, and he should not dare to continue to take the initiative to provoke. However, when the emperor said that Ye He and other ministries, this matter had to be guarded against...... The minister meant that Nurhachi might secretly contact them, but the minister had not had time to think about what they would do. ”

Zhu Yijun sighed: "It's hard for you, it's not Liaofu anymore, but it's still planning for Liaodong." ”

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