The two who are one step closer to each other, while strolling along the embankment, have an in-depth heart-to-heart exchange on specific issues.

"Then you say, who are our enemies and who are our friends?" Hai Rui asked in a deep voice with his hands behind his back.

"Haigong wants to equalize the land and grain, apportionment into the mu, restrain land annexation, and recruit the sword at the big landlords...... It is a gentleman who owns a lot of land. In the final analysis, all problems in this world are problems of interests, so our enemies must come from this group. ”

"Of course." Hai Rui nodded.

"Land is the foundation of life, and almost everyone who has the slightest wealth buys it, so this group is too big to be defeated. We have to divide it piece by piece like a slice of bread. ”

"Leave the enemy in the mutilation?" Hai Rui is now speculating and selling.

"Not bad." Zhao Hao said: "According to my observation, those who own land can be divided into at least four categories. First, the big landlords who are purely rent-oriented and lending-oriented; second, in addition to land rent lending, new landlords who also profit from industry and commerce; Third, large businessmen who mainly operate industry and commerce and use land as a means of property preservation; Fourth, small and medium-sized landlords who own the least amount of land but have the largest number of people. ”

"Uh-huh......" Hai Rui twisted his gray beard, listening intently. In the past, he thought that the landlord was the landlord, but he never thought that he could be subdivided in this way.

And the benefits of such subdivision are self-evident, divide and rule, pull one faction and fight another, are all means for the ancestors to play rotten.

"Of the four categories, which ones can be fought for, and which ones can only be attacked?" Hai Rui asked.

"This is for Hai Gong to answer a question first." Zhao Hao smiled.

"Excuse me." Hai Rui nodded.

"What is Haigong's concept of righteousness and benefit?" Zhao Hao was relaxed on the surface, but asked nervously in his heart.

The so-called concept of righteousness and benefit is how to view the relationship between morality and wealth. If Hai Jui adheres to the rule of science, 'the gentleman is righteous, and the villain is profitable', the problem will not be easy to handle.

However, Zhao Hao is still a little confident, because Hai Gongyan will be called 'Qiu Wenzhuang'.

Qiu Jun, who clearly put forward the 'labor theory of value', was the most outstanding economist in the Ming Dynasty and even in the entire ancient history. It is hard to imagine that Hai Jui would regard the concept of righteousness and benefit as a lifelong idol when the concept of righteousness and benefit is too different.

Sure enough, I heard Hai Rui say without thinking:

"The old man does not hate the rich, especially advocates hard work to get rich, and he is not opposed to getting rich through industry and commerce. What I am opposed to is only taking things for nothing. I especially hate the collusion of officials and gentry and the ill-gotten wealth of the common people! ”

Zhao Hao's expression perked up when he heard this, just like eating ginseng fruit, and he felt comfortable. He asked with a smile: "It seems that Haigong doesn't discriminate against businessmen anymore?" ”

"That's nature. Today, there are five people for the people, namely, soldiers, farmers, workers, merchants, and soldiers. Scholars are known to the way, the army is to defend the country, agriculture is born of nine grains, workers are used with sharp tools, and businessmen are well-informed and funded in the world. In my eyes, they are all respectable people. ”

I only heard Hai Rui say in a deep voice: "What the old man despises is that those who do not live here are like lazy people......"

Speaking of this, he obviously paused, but thinking that he and Zhao Hao were already having a neck-to-neck relationship, he said everything.

Still gritted his teeth and said: "And those who don't get for nothing!" ”

There is no problem with this in later generations, but it is very taboo in the Ming Dynasty, because there are huge parasitic groups in the Ming Dynasty, such as clans and nobles, who are attached to the weak body of the country and greedily suck blood.

That's the tumor of the empire.

But first, there are no vassal kings in Jiangnan, only some nobles who are far less harmful than the former.

Second, that is not a problem that the two of them can solve at present, so Hai Rui just nodded and said a little, and then turned back to the topic:

Therefore, the old man thinks that it is not advisable to emphasize profit over righteousness, and it is not right to emphasize righteousness over profit. It should be 'both righteous and beneficial', as long as it is not unearned, getting rich is worth encouraging. As long as it is not illegal gains, it should not be deprived casually. ”

"Haha, okay, then Haigong's question, you can answer it yourself, right?" Zhao Haoyun smiled lightly.

"Not bad." Hai Rui also nodded and smiled, and then analyzed seriously: "

"In the first category, the land is their only one, so it is definitely the most stubborn, and they will not give up hostility if they are not beaten and disabled."

"The second type of foundation is also in the land, so it will also be hostile to us. But as long as we can protect their interests in industry and commerce, we can keep them neutral, even if we can't win them to join us, and we won't be enemies of the first group. ”

"Third, the land is not their foundation, as long as we protect industry and commerce, it is entirely possible to become our allies."

"As for the fourth category. Although they are also landlords, they are still facing the exploitation and oppression of big landlords, and our new policy is beneficial to them. As long as they are excluded, they are naturally our allies. ”

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After listening to this, Zhao Hao applauded Hai Rui and said: "Hai Gong really sees it thoroughly, and I also have this point of view." ”

"Then, on the basis of relying on the toiling people, we should vigorously unite the third and fourth groups of people, and strive for the second type of neutrality as much as possible. In the meantime, it will be much easier to concentrate on the first category, and the backlash will be much smaller. ”

"But this has a premise, which is to 'encourage industry and commerce'......" Hai Rui said, smiled and pointed at Zhao Hao and said: "You kid is changing tricks, just want to wait for me to say these four words, right?" ”

"This is not my selfishness with Jiangnan Company." Zhao Hao shouted and said: "But the industry and commerce in Jiangnan have become pillars, and the citizens in the city need to say it." Even in the farmland, seventy percent of cotton is planted with mulberry, and less than thirty percent of rice is planted. It is a governor who does not discriminate against industry and commerce, which is the need of the entire Jiangnan and the needs of the Ming Dynasty! ”

"You're singing high enough." Hai Rui scolded with a smile: "Since you're worried again, why didn't you ask last time we met?" Aren't you afraid you're looking for the wrong person? ”

"I admit I have an element of gambling." Zhao Hao said with a sneer: "But it's not a day or two since I quarreled with Haigong, and when Guanhaigong was governing Chun'an and rejuvenating the country, he put 'encouraging industry and commerce' after 'persuading farmers and persuading mulberry', so he shouldn't be wrong." ”

Qiu Jun even fundamentally repudiated the traditional theory of valuing agriculture and suppressing business. Adhere to the principle of 'food, people's livelihood'.

Although Hai Jui is not as radical as Qiu Jun, he studied under Qiu Jun in fostering industry and commerce and invigorating the economy. At the beginning, Hai Rui was able to assess the first place in the country in Chun'an County, relying on this.

In fact, of course, this question can't be asked in advance, otherwise it will become Zhao Hao's election governor, so where will Hai Rui be placed? Not to mention his strong self-esteem, the political sensitivity of a four-rank member will also make him categorically reject Zhao Hao.

Now that I say that it is called giving advice, whether I listen to it or not, of course, I don't have that scruples.

The two looked at each other and smiled, self-evident.

P.S. These chapters have been examined with very detailed information, and Hai Jui's views are all his own, and I have all the sources. definitely didn't beautify Hai Rui, but found that he was really hacked. Indignantly ask for a monthly pass! There's one more chapter, right......