Old Pinto's face was not very good-looking.

Bishop Carneiro's complexion was also not good-looking.

Chen Mu sat in the middle of the municipal square, the thumb of his right hand on the arm of the chair slowly brushed his cheek, and his expression was not good.

The flag army around him opened the guard, and there were Haojing merchants gathered around the square, and the Ming people and the foreign Yi people were mixed in the middle, and some adults lifted their children above their heads, and many people rushed to see how Chen Mu would deal with the trafficking merchants.

They just came to see Chen Mu, and it was not easy to see the first-class members of the imperial court, let alone Chen Mu, who often appeared in restaurant scripts, mythological stories, and temples in overseas campaigns.

In order to interrogate this foreign businessman, Chen Mu waited in Haojing for a few days, and called his staff Lao Pinto and Bishop Carneiro.

Things are not complicated, Chen Mushang received a letter from Huang Dexiang when he was in Nanyang Weigang, doing silk trade in Haojing, and at the same time abducted the people to put them in the cabin, and when he left Haojing Port, the flag army checked the goods, and after being discovered, he intended to resist with 23 sailors and was suppressed.

It was not human trafficking that made Chen Mu come over, but because this person first claimed to be a merchant from Xiyi after the Portuguese was verified, and the seal letter was issued by the bishop Carnero of the church.

He simply thought that Carneiro might be colluding with the Spaniards, so he came over, but after he came, he interrogated and found that there was something else going on.

Although Carneiro was chosen as the usher, the actual selection of the merchant Jia Fayin was done by the church teachers, and the owner of the ship was indeed Portuguese on the church's registration, but the owner of the ship was not the arrested Spaniard.

"General Chen, this man claims to be a Portuguese, but he is not, although he recognizes him as a Spaniard, he is not."

Pinto's face was a little embarrassed, the reason for the embarrassment was nothing else, he collected all the words in his mind, and he didn't know how to explain to Chen Mu where this person came from, and after thinking for a long time, he said: "He was born in England, and before he went to sea, the king of England was still Philip, so it is right to say that he is a Spaniard." ”

"But now Philip is no longer the king of England, but he doesn't know it, because he has been at sea for many years."

Huang Dexiang, who was pressing the knife on the side, scoffed at this, he didn't care which country he was from, or Chen Mu ordered to ask clearly, and he would have been killed.

The Englishman, who thought that the Spaniards were disguised as the Portuguese, was tied up and knelt on the ground by the banner army, screaming to himself, and the speed of his speech was too fast Chen Mu couldn't understand, which made Pinto's face even more ugly.

"He said that you are cannibals, and that someone told him that the Ming people used to eat people in times of war."

Old Pinto really didn't want to relay this sentence, who was the person in front of him?

It's Chen Mu!

I don't know how many people Chen Mu has killed!

Pinto didn't wait for Chen Mu to speak, and in order to calm his possible anger, he first explained: "People think that inferior people can be sold, and they can do whatever they want like Columbus...... He's a criminal, general, and I propose to put him to death. ”

Chen Mu didn't get angry, it was meaningless to be angry with the dead, he just bowed his head, frowning and wondering, because in his understanding, Columbus was a great navigator, and he even sighed why Zheng He couldn't achieve extraordinary achievements like Columbus.

But Chen Mu heard Columbus's name in Pinto's mouth, which was obviously derogatory.

"Cannibalism in times of war...... They just ate God, what does it matter to you! Chen Mu only saw hypocrisy, he turned to Pinto and said, "Tell me about Columbus." ”

The Englishman was still yelling, Chen Mu was not only confused but also regretful in his heart, he had thought about the scene of meeting the Englishman a few times in his heart, but he didn't expect it to be like this.

"Decades ago, Columbus took the letter of the King of Spain to the Great Yuan Emperor, and was funded by Spain to lead a fleet of expeditions, raping women everywhere he passed, using nine-year-old and ten-year-old girls as currency, and killing natives with hunting dogs to satisfy his men, and happily wrote these things down in his diary, but what the diary did not say was that they brought the Spanish disease back to our land."

Pinto Sr. took off his glasses, "I longed for these when I was younger, but now I am ashamed of them. ”

Mortified?

Chen Muzhen doesn't think that there can be a few Europeans who are ashamed of this from the bottom of their hearts, they will not be ashamed, and they will not be ashamed of it in three hundred years.

"Bishop, he wears your necklace around his neck, and Columbus is also a believer, why would he do such a thing?"

What can Bishop Carneiro say, can he tell Chen Mu that in the Iberian Peninsula, in Marseille, in the Netherlands, in England, in all those places where they have been to Africa and America, there are people vying to trade in black slaves for their own benefit?

Could it be that Columbus said in his diary that the Caribbeans were cannibals in order to reduce the guilt in his heart?

"General, even if a bad man serves God, he will still not be protected by God, and he will go to hell." Canelo couldn't say that, he just looked into Chen Mu's eyes and said, "In Columbus's eyes, people are hierarchical, they are inferior, and the same is true of what the general does. ”

"To hell? I didn't see him go to hell, he lived well, and if it weren't for my banner army to capture him, my people would have gone to hell. Chen Mu held his breath in his heart, it was not to Bishop or Pinto, "There are good people everywhere, and there are bad people everywhere, I understand." But if my people die, what is the use of you saying they will go to heaven? ”

"If good people go to heaven when they die, and villains go around alive, then what's the use of this church?"

In the beginning, the Americans had gold, and the Europeans had the Bible; Later the Europeans had gold, and the Americans had the Bible.

This was the reason for Chen Mu's anger, because Carnello was right, people have hierarchies, and Chen Mu suddenly found that his actions were no different from those of the Europeans, and he also took the gold of the Luzon people.

But this is not the case with his compatriots, they are kind, so kind that Zheng He went to the West to fund the countries where people's livelihood is withering, so kind that they are extremely restrained when they are attacked several times, and even so kind that others move their own systems to them, and their descendants really believe the nonsense that they are the descendants of inferior people.

Even if he is a fool, as long as he finds a way to make ordinary people stupid, he has enough experience to be a fool to defeat this ordinary person.

Chen Mu suddenly smiled, and he asked the bishop, "Bishop, then do you think I am a superior person or an inferior person?" ”

"I don't know mathematics, I don't know philosophy, I don't believe in religion, I don't know anything about art, and 900 out of a thousand people write more than I can write." Chen Mu didn't wait for Carneiro to answer, and asked expressionlessly: "I only have gold and silver, warships and artillery, I can only set fire to kill people, so am I a high-ranking person or an inferior person?" ”

Chen Mu thinks that he is not a high-ranking person, but his compatriots must be high-ranking people, they are pawns and peddlers listen to operas, literati and send landscapes, they have no quarrel with the world to feed chickens and raise cattle are all Tao, they are full of troubles and hopes, they often bury their heads in their own self, and occasionally dream of helping the world.

Bishop Carneiro opened his mouth slightly, and did not answer for a long time, obviously this question was too difficult, and he paused before saying an answer that Chen Mu never expected.

He said: "The higher people are not necessarily always high, and the lower people are not necessarily always low. But general, whether you are a superior person or an inferior person, this is philosophy. ”

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