On the second floor of Yuxian Building, Du Zhongxiao and Wang Anshi sat opposite each other. A few dishes were ordered on the table, and a pot of wine was placed on the side.

After three rounds of drinking, Wang Anshi said: "Zhongcheng has always said that Ye County is difficult to manage, I don't know where the difficulty is?" ”

Du Zhongxiao said: "Actually, it's not right to say that it's difficult to manage. It's just that the factories there have appeared in recent years, not elsewhere, and the officials have gone and have no experience. It's hard to say because I haven't seen any of these. Simple, factories have appeared in the past few years, whether it is the factory owner or the workers working in it, let the government set the rules for him. ”

Wang Anshi thought for a while and said, "I don't know how the current factory is different from the previous field work?" Need to be so solemn? ”

Du Zhongxiao said: "It can't be said to be different, but because of the quantity, the market, there have been fundamental changes. The factory in Yexian County appeared and developed with the development of the iron prison. Compared with the original field service, there are several differences. First, they bought raw materials from the iron supervisor, and then processed some of them themselves, and produced goods to sell. The difference between the price of the raw materials that come in and the price of the goods that are sold is the source of their profits. Another is that there are generally machines in the factory, and machines are used for production. The value of a factory is mostly determined by the machines they own. Another point is that the factory employs people to produce, pay the hired people, and leave the rest alone. There are two points to pay attention to, one is that they buy parts and semi-finished products and sell finished products, and the difference between the two is important to the factory. There is also the point that the workers are hired and only pay and leave the rest alone. ”

Wang Anshi thought about it for a while, and felt that it was indeed different from the previous field affairs. But it feels like the difference is not as big as Du Zhongxiao said.

Du Zhongxiao said: "So there are two conditions for opening a factory. One is to buy parts and semi-finished products, and the other is to have a sales market, both of which are indispensable. The reason why the factory was collected in Ye County was because the iron supervisor next to it provided these two things. The railway supervisor wants to sell goods, and the production capacity of finished products and parts does not match, in fact, because most of the machines are dedicated, they cannot be matched. The extra parts have to be sold, otherwise the machine can only sit idle, which is relatively uneconomical. The factory next to it used these parts to produce things that the iron supervisor did not produce. The external sales of the railway supervision goods have attracted merchants from all over the country and formed a ready-made market. ”

Wang Anshi nodded: "These two things are indeed not found in other places." ”

Du Zhongxiao said: "Of course, as long as the iron supervision office in Yezhou is prosperous, it opens early, and it makes a lot of money, almost everything." If other places build railway supervisors, there will be no need to build many more. The factory in Ye County is important, but also because of another reason, scale. A large number of factories are gathered in one place, and everyone in the world knows it. If you come here, you can buy a certain type of goods, so that their goods can be sold without worry. With the railway connecting the world, Yexian County is in the important place of the railway line, with convenient transportation and easy to sell the world. Therefore, as long as the imperial court measures are effective, there should be more and more factories there. ”

Hearing this, Wang Anshi couldn't help but smile: "How much more?" After all, it's just a state. ”

Du Zhongxiao said: "It's hard to say how much." If it can occupy the world's machine production, the amount is quite staggering. The ability of industry to generate wealth is not comparable to that of agriculture. One day in the future, the commercial tax there will exceed that of Kaifeng Prefecture, and it is not unthinkable. ”

Wang Anshi was taken aback: "The first good place in Kaifeng Mansion, how can it be imagined anywhere else?" ”

Du Zhongxiao said: "Kaifeng Mansion has a lot of business taxes, but it is nothing more than a large population, and the officials and ministers of the world gather here, and there are many rich people. There are many shops in the market that sell goods to these people, and there are naturally more of them, and they pay more taxes from merchants. In Ye County, the market is the world. No matter how large the population of Tianfeng Mansion is, can it be compared with the world? It won't be long before Yezhou's commercial tax exceeds that of Kaifeng Prefecture, so there's nothing strange about it. ”

In fact, in recent years, Kaifeng Mansion has been greatly developed as the center of the world's railways through the construction of railways. Due to its location in Yaojin, there are also some factories here, but it can't be compared with Yexian. If not, Ye County will now surpass Kaifeng Mansion.

Wang Anshi knew that Ye County had a lot of commercial taxes, but if it was compared to Kaifeng Mansion, he couldn't imagine it. At present, the factories in Ye County, because there are no corresponding management measures, do not collect much tax. In particular, in many places, there is still a tradition of collecting real taxes, and the currency is insufficient, so the government receives little benefit.

Seeing that Wang Anshi was still puzzled, Du Zhongxiao said: "The most important thing for you to go to Yezhou is to manage the factory." One is to manage the money, how to collect taxes from them is the most appropriate. Now it is generally collected and taxed, and the bulk goods are placed in various states and counties, and the factories are not suitable. They buy raw materials and parts from the iron prison, and they can't actually collect taxes. If you sell goods, you are not in the freight yard, and if you don't take the railroad, you can't collect taxes. ”

Wang Anshi said: "If this is the case, it is always appropriate to directly send people to collect taxes according to the goods they produce." ”

Du Zhongxiao shook his head: "The factory can't send people there every day. Furthermore, when goods are sold, the price varies, some make more money, and some make less. When buying raw materials and parts, the price also changes, so it's not that simple. This matter is actually very complicated, and it is impossible to explain it clearly for a while. Only when you get there, you know how the factories operate and produce, how to sell goods, how to make money, and come up with ways to collect taxes according to their actual conditions. Neither miss the imperial court taxes, nor affect the development of the factory. ”

Wang Anshi nodded: "It seems that this matter is not easy. Zhongcheng couldn't say clearly for a while, there are not many such things. ”

Du Zhongxiao said: "That's true. For a while, I couldn't think of a perfect way to collect taxes from the factories and make it difficult for them to develop healthily and rapidly. When something new comes out, there must always be a person who is benevolent and capable, and it takes a while for everything to go well. The most important thing is not only to collect taxes, but also to make the factory make money, and the more you open, the better. ”

After speaking, he drank a glass of wine with Wang Anshi. put down the wine glass and said: "When the money of the world is issued by the imperial court, and all the goods of the iron supervisor are collected and introduced, it can be seen how important these factories are to the imperial court now." In the future, more and more money and grain will be collected from iron supervisors and private factories, and the land tax will not be as important as before. So how the factory is, for the future is more and more important. ”

Wang Anshi sighed: "Since Zhongcheng arrived at Yingtian on Jingxi Road, the world has really changed a lot in the past few years. The money and grain of the imperial court are coming more and more from the government-run field affairs, field affairs, shopping malls, etc., which is no longer the same as before. I was familiar with these, but I realized that there was a place like Ye County, and it turned out that it was possible to open a factory. Only then did I know that in many places, machines are now used for farming, which is much stronger than before. ”

Du Zhongxiao said: "Jiefu, the world has changed, and many things are no longer what they used to be. Internally, with factories and railways, it has become powerful in recent years. Externally, it seems that Di Qing's attack on Lingzhou this time, just because of his slow action, there are many opinions today. And more than ten years ago, hundreds of thousands of troops were helpless against the party, so what? Like those of us in the prime of life, we have to keep up with the changes. If not, more than ten years later, it will be out of place in the court, and it will be embarrassing at that time. ”

Wang Anshi said: "I think so too. Looking at today's court, for the party war, most of the ministers were dissatisfied with Di Qing's march because of Liu Ji's victory and Han Qi's army besieging Ganzhou. As for how this battle should be fought, even the ministers of the two governments couldn't say why. Including Wen Xianggong, he can't understand the war on the front line, which is really embarrassing. ”

Wen Yanbo has just turned fifty years old, he is in the prime of life, and he should be proficient in everything. But this party war exposed that he didn't know anything about military affairs. It's just that he knows in his mind that the victory of Han Qi and Liu Ji lets him know what strategy to take.

Now the courtiers, aren't most of them like this? How many people can quickly accept new things? As the situation develops, more and more people will not be able to keep up. Du Zhongxiao and these people, who have been in their tenth year, are about to appear on the stage of history at the age of thirty or forty.

Wang Anshi has been an official in the southeast, and he missed the fastest development of the iron prison in the past few years, and he doesn't know much about the industry, which is his shortcoming. But he has a clear mind and is familiar with the people's feelings, and if he goes to Yezhou this time, if he does a good job, he will have a bright future in the future.

For Yezhou, Du Zhongxiao felt that there were many things to do, but for a while, he couldn't explain them to Wang Anshi one by one. In the past three years, if he can manage the factory clearly and form a system, it will be great.

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