Since he said that he wanted to see the old man, the old ink man who told him that he knew and was familiar with the era of King Wille was Solushen and others, so he asked, "Do you want to see Solushen?" ”

The short man nodded, "Yes, I want to see you." I am from Benlu, I knew him in the early years in the country of Lu, and the two of us became ink masters in the same year. ”

These are all old things, and the partners who used to study together chose two completely different paths under Shangqiu City twenty years ago, and now they are gradually drifting away, leaving only those memories of studying at the beginning.

When the man heard about this, he said, "Well, then I can tell me when I get back." ”

He also knows that if people want to talk about some things, they will tell themselves, and if they don't want to say it, it is useless to ask.

Although there are many rules in the Mo family, there are not so many that they can't even talk about their old friends with private identities.

It's just that there's not much to talk about.

Most of his relatives have died, so he has followed Gongzi for many years, and when he followed Solushen westward, the immediate family members of the family were already dead and had nothing to worry about.

There was nothing to ask about his own affairs, so he inevitably talked about some grand things, and the man who told him said with some pride: "The two gentlemen came to Handan today, and what they saw and heard, didn't they see peace and prosperity? Although I have never been to Sishang, I want to come to Sishang Fenghua, which is far better than this. ”

The tall man laughed and said: "In my eyes, the people of Handan are all for profit, and they only have money in their eyes. Everyone seeks profit, but never sees righteousness. ”

"It is that agriculture is not as good as work, industry is not as good as business, and embroidery is not as good as leaning on the market. Women seek profit, and it is better to do embroidery than to lean on the door and laugh. The world is like this, laughing at the poor and not smiling at the people who rely on the store to sell laughter, this is ...... I'm afraid it's far from the righteousness of Mozi back then, right? ”

When the man heard this, he didn't care that he had to call the two of them more than ten years ago, so he couldn't help but retort with some words he learned on the way: "Righteousness, benefit." The ink man wants to benefit the world, so he must have righteousness in his heart, but he does not need everyone in the world to have the ambition to be the righteousness of the world. The ink artist is a pioneer horse, and cannot be with the people. ”

Besides, Zi Mozi also said that righteousness is the right to be. Shizi also said that if it is administered, the good one will benefit it, the second will teach it, the second will be neat, and the lowest one will fight with it. ”

"If everyone benefits, it will benefit the world. Moreover, in recent years, Handan has been measured by the three tables of the Mohists, the people are rich and the goods have increased, if Zi Mozi can see it, he will definitely be good, how can it be far from the righteousness of Mozi? ”

"What is wrong with everyone seeking profit, as long as it does not harm the interests of others? Could it be that after the two gentlemen rebelled against ink, they actually learned Confucianism, thinking that now people's hearts are not ancient, the world is declining, and etiquette is broken? ”

When it comes to some beliefs, the rhetoric is intense, and all the rebuttals are the understanding and results of the past few years of study.

The tall man's face remained unchanged, but he was secretly surprised in his heart, and said in his heart: "This person didn't leave an impression on me back then, so it can be seen that he was just a middle-aged person back then." Now I can't refute these remarks, I have heard that after the gathering of Shangqiu, it was appropriate for this person to reorganize the system, be in charge of Xuanyi, and make the upper and lower levels know righteousness, and the means are really extraordinary. ”

"In terms of talent, this person in front of me is not as good as me. However, what he learned and heard in the Mohist organization was only ten years, and he could do so...... It's scary. ”

Thinking of this, the tall man did not refute it head-on, but asked with a quibble: "Since it is correct to say that seeking profit, what is the difference?" ”

"Ordinary people, such as farmers, industrialists, merchants, and Jia, have 10,000 yuan in their families, and they can get 2,000 yuan in interest every year, and those who have 1 million yuan can get 200,000 yuan in interest every year, which is profit-seeking."

"Fifty horses on land, one hundred and sixty or seventy cattle, two hundred and fifty sheep, two hundred and fifty pigs in the meadows, a fish pond with an annual output of 1,000 stone of fish in the water, and a thousand mature trees in the mountains. There are a thousand jujube trees in Anyi; Yan and Qin have thousands of chestnut trees; There are a thousand orange trees in Chudi; Qi and Lu have thousands of acres of mulberry hemp; There are 1,000 acres of bamboo in Qinchuan, and there are 1,000 acres of fertile land with a yield of one minute per mu in the suburbs, or 1,000 acres of gardenias, madder, ginger and leeks...... People like this can earn 200,000 yuan a year after pursuing profits. ”

"But if there are 4,000 fiefdoms, each household in the fiefdom pays a tax of 50 yuan a year, and the annual income is 200,000 yuan."

"It's the same chasing 200,000 dollars, we're not right? Who can? Since we talk about profit-seeking, what's the difference? ”

When the tall man finished speaking, he didn't want to laugh when he told the man just now, because he had just learned this a few months ago, so he hurriedly said, "There is a difference here. ”

"The Mo family said that wealth is obtained from labor and can be increased, so it can be inferred that the nobles of Shiqing who have fiefs are silverfish. This is not an insult, but it is inferred by the art of reasoning. ”

"You see, the people who own the fiefdom don't do anything, just sit there, and get the income of the fief every year."

"And if you say that a person who farms in a thousand acres of gardenias, madder, ginger, etc., he needs to invest capital, hire labor, and operate himself, which is always different from those silverfish who have fiefdoms and do nothing."

"The operation and existence of these people have indeed increased the total wealth of the world."

"And those who have fiefdoms do not increase the total wealth of the world, this is the difference. This is also a criterion used to judge whether it is beneficial to the world. ”

He had not learned much, but it was enough to tell the difference between these embryonic bourgeois doctrines, or the most incendiary doctrines that destroyed the foundations of the rationality of the aristocratic fiefdoms.

However, this alone is enough to leave the two men who could be called Mr. more than ten years ago speechless, and this fallacious theory is enough to destroy the legitimacy of the noble fiefdoms on the ground, and to justifiably accuse those fiefdom nobles of being silverfish in the "doctrinal sense".

At this point, there is no longer speculation, and the wine has no taste when drunk.

The tall man could only snort after hating: "Work to get rich, it sounds good, I don't believe that those people in the world who earn 200,000 a year are all wealth through labor?" How did they get it before, I'm afraid that if they want to dig deeper, they will all be suspected of silverfish, right? ”

"That's it, Zhong Ni once said, if you don't make sense, you can't conspire with each other. You and I are old, but we have seen each other for ten years, and the Tao is different, but this meal is not as happy as the old one. ”

This involved a battle of ideas, and the man was not to be outdone, and said solemnly: "If this is the case, it is also different to want you two to come to see Suo Lushen." ”

The tall man laughed and said, "I didn't see Solu Shen for the sake of the Tao, I had other things. Anyway, I don't have the interest in drinking this wine today, so you go back and tell Solushen, and say that the two of us invite him to meet. After all, when Gongzi sent ten people to follow him west, he couldn't all become ink people and enter the Mo family, I always had to bring back those who were not ink people. ”

The man got up and said, "In that case, I will go back and make an announcement." ”

After saying that, the tall and short looked at the person who left for a long time, and glanced at each other, and the short man couldn't help but say: "Now that the righteousness of the Mo family has been completed, I can't refute it with the skill of knowledge." This kind of truth will soon spread all over the world. This is all the right idea, and this is indeed a person who is causing trouble in the world. ”

The tall man thought for a while, shook his head, and said, "I can't refute it." After not being in the Mo family for many years, we have forgotten the dialectics of the Mo family. ”

"Now that I think about it, it's actually a trap. If one agrees with him that the increase in national wealth is due to labor, then this is the case no matter how it can be deduced. ”

"But if they can refute the root cause of the increase in wealth from labor, then their conclusion is wrong."

"He said that the increase in wealth comes from labor, and I also say that the increase in wealth comes from the land. Merely...... If you want to systematically argue this point, I'm afraid it's a little difficult. ”

The short man waved his hand and said, "Let's go, argue with the Mo family, you and I don't have the ability." The fifty-fourth debate is still there, and he is now in the prime of life, who in the world can argue with it? ”

"In my opinion, Shengqiu's idea is correct. It is strictly forbidden for various theories to spread in Qin, to close the ears and eyes of the people, and to take the officials as teachers and only take the first half of the sentence of Zi Mozi Shangtong - only what is broken out of the chapter must be everything; What is not, it will be not; and not to talk about the later statements of gathering the righteousness of the people, measuring the will of heaven, and judging right and wrong by rules. ”

"In my opinion, Handan is rich, but in rich places, the people have many ideas, so it is not easy to die, and it is easy to be bewitched by the doctrine of the Mo family. Therefore, Qin Di can't do this no matter what, otherwise Qin Di is bitter and cold, and with the same means, it will not be able to compete with the country of the Central Plains in Hedong. ”

The tall man waved his hand and said, "These things are not for reasoning. You and I rebelled against ink back then, and it is impossible for us to agree with the concept of benefiting the world. If according to the morality of the Mo family, this world is the world of the people of the world, and the people who benefit the world are considered to be beneficial to the world, and it is wrong for us to do that. ”

"But if the country is based on the country, the country is like one person, and our change in Qindi is right. In the end, it's all about the purpose. You and I are pursuing fame and wealth, and they are pursuing the benefit of the world, and the standards for evaluating right and wrong are different, and there is nothing to talk about with them. ”

"Just do what we have to do well. If such an argument arises, it is best to avoid it and not argue that you are doing the right thing. Only talk about their own interests, not about right and wrong, only in this way can we continue to talk with the Mo family, otherwise we will return in vain. ”

"Suo Lu Shen was originally good at arguing, although it was not as suitable, but now that the Mo family's morality has been completed and Fang Yuan has been drawn, the argument is unintentional, and it is easy to anger the other party...... Don't talk about it. ”

The two of them came here for other purposes, and of course it wasn't as simple as Solushen returning from the Far West to meet the old man.

When the short man heard this, he smiled and said, "You're right, but why did you argue with that person before?" ”

The tall man sighed and said: "I thought I could argue and win, I don't want the Mohist organization to be too terrible, the theory is self-contained, and the top and bottom are synonymous, this ordinary person who I didn't have an impression of back then, can even argue with me that I can't win...... This is something I didn't expect, and this is also the terrible thing about the Mo family. ”

"They want everyone to be a man. 10,000 ink is 10,000 scholars, all the countries in the world, as strong as Wei, can there be 10,000 scholars? ”

"The terrible thing about them is that some people who were originally inferior to you and me can now argue with you and me, and everything they see, hear, talk about, and discuss is all a collection of public righteousness. Behind everyone, there are 10,000 people, the princes of the Central Plains countries, who don't know what this means at all. ”

The short man thought for a moment and nodded, "That's right." It's scary. Hey, speaking of which, do you regret what happened to Shangqiu twenty years ago? ”

The tall man laughed and said, "Yu Qiu Tianzhi truth, I really should regret it." But what you and I are pursuing is the truth of heaven? ”

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