Chapter 348: Tian Yuan Forced and Cornered Teng (8)
After listening to some of Shi's explanations, the grandson had many doubts in his heart that he had never had before.
Mozi had indeed talked about the relationship between inside and outside, mind and object, Aili, and what he loved, but Mozi did not talk so thoroughly and deeply.
It's not that Mozi himself doesn't understand, but that Mozi thinks too highly of his disciples' understanding.
Gao Sun Tzu asked suspiciously: "As you said, how to explain the love and mutual benefit?" ”
Shi stretched out three fingers and said, "Personally, I think there are three explanations, and they all make sense. ”
"First, love each other, everyone can achieve both love in their hearts, love others with their own hearts, so as to achieve mutual 'benefit'. Here love is inside, gain is outside, from the inside out, from the heart to things. Love is the premise of mutual benefit. ”
Second, loving and benefiting each other is an ultimate goal. That is, everyone loves others with their own hearts, and everyone has the heart to aspire to the world. Thus it is both love and profit. Outside, they also get the love of others and benefit each other. ”
"Thirdly, that is...... Love and benefit each other...... It's just a manifestation of the outside. For your heart is known, and whom do you love? Who do you want to benefit? You don't say that no one knows. However, all of this can be observed, and the result is a future in which everyone seems to love and benefit everyone. This is intuitively observable. ”
These three classifications are not divided by Mozi, but are divided by oneself in order to grasp the right of interpretation in the future.
The first is a purely spiritual fantasy of heaven on earth and the rule of three generations, completely detached from materiality, believing that everyone can reach a sufficient moral height spiritually to build a paradise on earth.
The second is an ideal. The ultimate unity of the material and the spiritual.
The third ...... It completely negates the role of the spirit.
The first is logically feasible, and in reality it was originally thought to be feasible, but after the farce of the soldiers meeting made by the princes of Shangqiu in the First World War and the fact that the Chu State launched the alliance of the soldiers, in fact, Gao Sun Sun did not believe that this kind of thing could be carried out at all.
So after listening to the appropriate division, he muttered: "In this way, it is naturally better to have the second explanation." ”
Shi smiled: "It's really difficult. You also know what the slogan of the Righteous Master Spear Formation is, right? ”
When he talked about the Righteous Spear Formation, the eldest grandson naturally knew that this slogan had been shouted since the beginning of the army, and everyone knew the Righteous Spearman.
It is a very familiar sentence "everyone for me, I for everyone".
The phrase itself was first used by the spearmen of the spear formation, and spread throughout the world in The Three Musketeers, and Lenin was the first to translate it into Russian when he began his Saturday Compulsory Labor, and then Shi also learned about it.
So much so that in his last life, there was a very funny empty ear video of the Russian Thanksgiving Day group frame, Lenin's translation of these words is still beautiful, and it is the empty sentence in Chinese - the White Emperor's holy sword and imperial sword follow me......
The spearmen of the spear formation are the most suitable for this sentence, because the spear formation, which is extremely dependent on the integrity of the formation, is an extreme embodiment of "all for one, one for all".
Everyone needs to rely on their partners and teammates to protect them, and they are also protecting the rest of their partners.
Once this remark was proposed, it was not only very popular among the righteous teachers, but also quickly became a common phrase used by Peixian ink practitioners.
Because, it sounds like it is in line with Mozi's doctrine of "love for each other". I love everybody, everybody loves me, I am in everybody, so I love everybody and I love me.
When the eldest grandson heard this, he seemed to understand a little, and said: "You want to say that the people in the spear formation may not love the rest of the people in their hearts. But in the eyes of others, they are just loving the rest of the people, and it seems that they are loving and benefiting each other? ”
Shi smiled: "They are the easiest group of people to believe that everyone loves me and I love everyone. Because from the perspective of utilitarian and practical benefits, you can get real benefits by doing so. ”
"Therefore, I always feel that loving and benefiting each other is the ultimate paradise. But this is a long cutscene, and it can't be crossed in one step. ”
"The hardships of this period have to be experienced."
"The ninefold paradise is insurmountable."
"When the old suffering is removed, new suffering will arise. Only when we achieve the ultimate love and mutual benefit can we remove all suffering. ”
But the giant once said that the right is compared with the big and the small, and the big profit is the benefit and the small profit is harmful. Therefore, every progress is good for the world. ”
One of the very important characteristics of the Mo family is the utilitarian comparison, which can be seen from the attitude of Mozi in the matter of Prince Lu: this person is okay, but he is still far from being a benevolent and righteous monarch.
In particular, Mozi attaches great importance to the word "power", weighs the pros and cons, and clearly points out that one thing must consider the benefits and disadvantages, and choose to implement the one with greater benefits and less harm.
In the end, this goes back to the concept of "benefiting the world" itself, and there is a clear concept, program, and future, which can be compared.
Mozi recognizes that "love and benefit" is the ultimate form of the world, but he is by no means a person who only relies on lip service to reason.
To say that he is a pacifist who is absolutely anti-violence? Mozi killed more people in his life, and he often agitated "drums to make people go to war and attack the unrighteous country", believing that launching a war against the unrighteous country would benefit the world.
Say he's a Virgin of compassion? The rows of "chopping", "breaking", "punishing" and "clan" in the city defense technique are even more vivid.
Mozi does things and weighs the pros and cons. Of course, there needs to be a standard for the pros and cons, and this standard is the world, and how can the world calculate the benefits? What does the world consist of? The Mohists have their own explanations.
When Mozi said things like "no distinction between the old and the young, the noble and the low, all are the ministers of heaven" and "the agreement between the king and the subjects", this concept of the world must include "the peasants, the merchants, the slaves, the nobles, the princes......
As a result, the pros and cons, under the measurement of utilitarianism, have become a relatively large and small addition and subtraction: the interests of the vast majority of people in the world are benefits, and for this reason, the interests of a small number of people can be ruined. However, the Mohist concept of people is equal and includes agriculture and industry, so whose profit is the benefit of the majority? That goes without saying.
Since the Mo family thinks that it is possible to pull out a hair and benefit the world, then the nobles of Shiqing are unwilling to take the initiative to pull out, so they have to use violence to make them withdraw from the stage of history to benefit the world.
There may be some things that are not what Mozi thinks, but are suitable for correction.
However, the Mojia left by Mozi is about logical reasoning, so it leaves infinite possibilities. According to the series of things given by Mozi, it is easy to be used to deduce the result he wants.
When Shi talked about big benefits and small benefits, big harms and small harms, Gao Sun finally couldn't refute it immediately.
Shi Ze seized the opportunity and asked urgently: "It's like ...... At present, the system of Pei County is for good governance, benevolence and righteousness in the world. If it is placed in the time of Yao Shun, is it okay? ”
This question does not need to be answered, nor does it need to be thought about immediately, because Mozi has already given the answer.
Zi Mo Ziyan: Good governance in Yao, since now in the ancients. Since ancient times, Zeyao cannot be governed.
Mozi said that to say that Yao Shun's governance of the world is good governance, it is to look at the past from the perspective of the present, and considering the historical limitations at that time, he believes that Yao's policy is in line with the good governance of the time.
However, if Yao's policy is directly copied to the present, it will not be able to govern the world.
The original meaning of this sentence is philosophical, but when it comes to the right place, it is easy to combine it with the "ninefold paradise" and the saying that the productive forces determine the relations of production.
The tall grandson was silent.
Shi said: "Why can't Zeyao be governed since ancient times?" Because the world has changed. In the Yaoshun era, as Lu Yanggong said, Qiaoyi only had stone tools as tools, so Yao's policy was in line with the situation at that time, that is, the happy land at that time. ”
"If you go to the Yao era with Peidi's current policy, there is no iron, cattle, and seeds that Peixian now has...... Then there will be a great hunger in the world. ”
"That's right?"
The tall grandson nodded again.
Shi Chengsheng pursued: "Zi Mozi also said: One person is one righteousness, two people are two righteousness, and ten people are ten righteousness. There are many people, and so are the so-called righteous people. It is the righteousness of people, and the righteousness of non-people, so they are not mutually beneficial. The reason why the world is chaotic is that he was born without a political chief, so he chose the virtuous person in the world and established himself as the son of heaven. ”
"Yao is not only the Son of Heaven, but also does good governance, so we can know that the 'righteousness' at that time can benefit the world."
However, the giant also said that since ancient times, Zeyao cannot be governed. In other words, Yao's 'righteousness' at that time was different from the 'righteousness' that can benefit the world now. That's right? ”
This is a perfect logical chain, the grandson learned from Mozi, and naturally he is also used to the logic of the Mo family, so he nodded after thinking about it: "This is irrefutable." But although the righteousness is different, the benevolence is the same. Yao Shun must have a heart of love for the world, so that he can formulate good governance that is beneficial to the world. ”
"When they lived in that time, they naturally used the righteousness of that time. If you live in the present, you will naturally use the righteousness of the present. Righteousness changes, but love does not change. ”
He clapped his hands and said, "What you say is extremely true." However, the 'righteousness' that conforms to the instruments of the world can be rationally deduced. In other words, any official disciple of the Mo family can now know how the world in the Yao Shun era should be governed in order to be regarded as the good governance of the Paradise at that time. That's right, right? ”
The high grandson nodded again, and his heart was shocked, knowing that he had fallen into the appropriate trap the moment he nodded.
Sure enough, Shi asked: "If a person returns to the time of Yao Shun at this time, and the 'righteous' administration that is in line with the time of Yao Shun is launched according to reason, then is it good governance?" The benevolence in his heart cannot be compared with Yao, but the righteousness in his heart is consistent with what Yao thinks, and the policy will not be good governance because he is not as good as Yaoren? ”
The high grandson was silent, but he didn't give the senior grandson a chance to organize the language at all, and immediately said: "You are benevolent, but you also think that the idea of eliminating the nobles of the world is correct. Isn't your kindness also inflicted on princes and nobles? ”
The eldest grandson immediately retorted: "But the nobles of Shiqing are a minority in the world, not a majority. I have no love for them, but I love anyone other than them. You just said that you have to weigh the big and small benefits, and you have to weigh how many ...... the world have."
Shi laughed and said, "Yes, finally said how many questions." ”
"If there is a contradiction between the nobles of Shiqing and the farmers on the fields, the two are like black and white, and they cannot benefit each other. Those who are rich in land and those who rent land and work as cultivators also have contradictions, and the two are like black and white, and they cannot benefit from each other. ”
"So, which contradiction is the mainstream in the world?"