Chapter 95: The Dilemma of Controversy (6)
Meng Sunyang immediately expressed his attitude.
"This must not be done. The Mo family talked about the fact that everyone is a minister of the emperor of heaven, everyone is equal, and it is absolutely impossible to be a slave, or even a slave is private property! ”
"Do not move such thoughts, but if you do...... Sishang ......"
Dongxiang Ziqi didn't know what Meng Sunyang meant, this place is too close to Sishang, if he really does this, Sishang will definitely not allow it, but I am afraid that he will send troops again.
In these years, dreams are beautiful, reality is cruel, there are no soldiers in hand, no guns, no matter how good the dream is, it is just a fantasy.
Dongxiang Ziqi smiled: "Don't be surprised, sir, since you ask me to say what I want most, I will say what I want most." There are people in the world who are farmers, businessmen, doctors, and princes, each with its own benefits, and its benefits are different. Since I want to be slaves to my servants, and those slaves want all to be equal, and I can't beat them, so I have to admit equality. ”
"I'm just talking about what I want, it's too hard for me to wait for these squires, especially if it's too close to Sishang, it's really hard."
"If you go elsewhere, not to mention fiefdoms, slaves and maids don't need to be discussed, even if there are servant cultivators, they are poor and unrebellious people."
"In this way, but it is different, three meals a day must cost a lot of money and food for two meals a day, and two meals a day does not mean death, for hundreds of years, the common people have eaten two meals a day, and they have not seen them die. But now, he has to eat three meals a day, otherwise he has to flee to Sishang; and the monthly wages for the plough will not be less. ”
"I thought that if there was slave property, it would be in my best interest. If there are fewer people and more land, and there is no slave private property, we will suffer and lose. ”
"Everyone seeks profit, and there is nothing wrong with thinking so."
When Zihuazi heard this, he immediately said: "This is not true. Since it is said that seeking profit, if a person's six desires can be satisfied, but not indulged, we must weigh the pros and cons, and what is important. ”
"I Yang Zi learned, noble self reborn, the so-called money, are all things outside the body, can fill the gap of the six desires, but the six desires need or can enjoy. If you do this, you are afraid that Sishang will send troops to shoot you, and then your life will be gone, so what are the pros and cons? ”
Dongxiang Ziqi still smiled: "If there is no external force, this is really my greatest benefit." Since Mr. Yang Zimei and the ugly two concubines are virtuous and virtuous, I will say some of the things I want most, although I can't do it, but I can't say that this is not what I hope for the most. ”
"I'm not saying that I want to enslave all the servants in my village, but ...... If I buy slaves for my own use, can I protect my private property? ”
"In the past, Zigong ransomed people without thanks, and was reprimanded by Zhongni, and there are many slaves in this world. Now it is not cost-effective to use a mercenary cultivator, and I am going to buy some slaves and maids. ”
At this time, there were still a lot of slaves in the world, under the former well field system, many scholars also had their own family slaves, and many captured people were treated as slaves before the wars of various countries.
Dongxiang Ziqi wanted to inquire about the future policy to change his business model, mainly because if slaves were counted as private property and protected by law, then he could buy some slaves from other places with confidence and boldness.
Nowadays, there is a shortage of people near Sishang, and there is a shortage of cheap people.
The development of industry and commerce in Sishang is in the rush, the development of Huaibei and the South China Sea is in the rush, and many homesteaders who can maintain their own lives are destined to have manpower that will not be cheap.
Fleeing, leaving, pouring into the city of Sishang...... These are all problems faced by the old aristocrats who have changed their identities in the past few years.
Dongxiang Ziqi opposed the division of feudalism and the restoration of etiquette, because if he really restored the retro of Zhou rites according to Confucianism, he would be a small scholar, and his fief would be a well, and then he could not buy land.
It was precisely because of the effectiveness of the anti-feudal patriarchal system in this place near Sishang that he had the opportunity to annex land and become a land operator with 6,000 acres of land.
However, when his land reached 6,000 acres, as the times continued to move forward, with the deepening of the reform and the continued development of the bud on the Sishang side, he began to miss the patriarchal system.
If there is still a patriarchal system, then the people of the land are dependent on him, and those who cannot flee at will, and those who flee will be captured or sentenced, how can they be kind to those servants from time to time, as they are now, if not, they will have to leave.
People like him oppose the patriarchal system and the reason only because they are low-level nobles under the patriarchal system, and they only oppose the patriarchal system where they are not the great suzerain, the master of the sect, and the great doctor.
Now that they have gained, but they are faced with the disintegration of the patriarchal system and the gradual disintegration of personal dependence, they pondered and retreated.
Sishang allowed migration, but the patriarchal system did not allow migration, which was a big difference, and when Dongxiang Ziqi crossed the initial opposition to the shackles of the patriarchal system on his low-ranking nobles, he began to move towards reaction.
This time, the policy of the Song State is about to undergo great changes, and Dongxiang Ziqi and hope to find out whether the slave and maid are considered private property and whether they are recognized by the law, which is very important.
Although Meng Sunyang often debated with the Mohists, and sometimes choked some Mohists were speechless when it came to reasoning, he lacked experience in governing after all.
Under the premise of step-by-step and unchanged system, being a wise man and a famous person and assisting a country can actually be done by many people.
But if you change the law, reform the system, take care of all aspects, and can also make a place and a country safe and prosperous, it can be called unparalleled in the world, such as Wu Qi and Shang Yang in later generations, and Li Kui before him, all of whom are for this generation.
Faced with Dongxiang Ziqi's question, Meng Sunyang thought for a long time and said: "This matter should not come to pass. Although each school of thought has its own government, and each township governs its own township, it is necessary to have a constitution after all, and although the laws of each township can be adapted to local conditions and convenient, they cannot violate the constitution. ”
"It is impossible for slaves and maids to be private property. Even if the Mo family does not intervene, with the system of the Song Dynasty in the future, hundreds of schools of thought will argue about politics and vote on right and wrong, and there will be many people in the peasant family alone, and they will inevitably oppose slaves and maids as private property. ”
"Moreover, the saying that everyone in the Mo family is equal and that everyone is a minister of the Emperor of Heaven has been spread all over the world, and once this step is taken, it will be difficult to turn back."
Dongxiang Ziqi sighed and said: "But we are also difficult, like this, Sishang and us are competing for profit, if we really elect sages in the future, we must elect people who can benefit us as sages." ”
"You know that I used to work with my help, two meals a day, and only a few copper coins a year. How much does it cost a person today? ”
"Since you said that the Song Dynasty will elect sages in the future, let me ask you, does this landless, unpermanent property, and servant cultivator also have the right to elect?"
"This is a big deal, and you have to think about it."
Zhan He, who had never spoken, sneered when he heard this, glanced at Dongxiang Ziqi, and said with a smile: "Ziqi's words are inevitably unknown to the trend of the world, but they are actually the words of the countryside." ”
"What Song's policy is depends on the Mo family. If it is not in accordance with righteousness, the Mo family will come to Shangqiu again in the name of unrighteousness, what can you do? ”
"Then do you think that the Mo family says that everyone is equal all day long, and chooses sages as the princes of the Son of Heaven, do these impermanent people have the right to elect others?"
"You are here to reason with us, it is useless, if you can annihilate the 50,000 righteous teachers in Sishang, don't say that slaves and maids are private property, that is, return to the patriarchal law, prohibit escape, and protect your land, why is it difficult?"
"Besides, there are many people who have no land in the Song Dynasty today, and tomorrow's land reform, all of them have land and property, how can it be said that there are no permanent people?"
Dongxiang Ziqi's heart was cold, and he was about to ask again, but Zhan He said again: "As the saying goes, if you do nothing, the world will be self-transformed." Here, the policy is much the same. There was also a co-farming society in Sishang before, didn't there still be people in your manor who stayed with you to farm? ”
"It's not that you can't make a profit, but you just have to give more money to prevent them from leaving, it's just a small profit, this is greed, and over time, you will definitely hurt your body, and you can't live a whole life."
"Listen to my advice, stop in moderation, and don't be greedy."
Dongxiang Ziqi said in his heart, what you say is, you seem to let everyone be able to distinguish the difference between enjoying the six desires and indulgence, so that people in the world know how to live a true life, but how difficult is it? If everyone is a gentleman, and the words of Confucianism are not wrong, it is easy to govern but difficult to govern.
He also heard a hint of admonition, which he finally held back in his heart and did not say it, and turned to ask more realistic questions.
"I have heard that the fiefs of the fugitive nobles that have been confiscated will be taken back and granted to the people. So, can the people who work on my manor house divide the land? ”
"Even if they could divide the land, how would they be able to cultivate their land if they had no cattle or horses or farm tools?"
"There is money and iron in Si, so you can support the people of the village, so why do you get that money to buy farm tools and distribute them to the people?"
"Besides, if you do this, how can it be regarded as doing nothing?"
Meng Sunyang was about to refute, but Dongxiang Ziqi asked again: "If you are in charge of politics and want to support farmers with iron and cattle to use, where will the money come from?" It is necessary to collect it from us. ”
"Since you have said, 'If you do not pluck a hair for the benefit of the world, then the world will be ruled greatly.'" Let me ask you, is it against your morality that you have plucked the hair from my body to benefit the poor? ”
Meng Sunyang was silent, and Zihuazi said: "We don't necessarily have to use your money, we can borrow the Mo family's money, and the farmer will repay it in the future......"
Dongxiang Ziqi laughed and said: "In this way, you are just the concubines of the Mo family, but it is a pity that Yang Zi I fought with the Mo family, but I don't want Yang Zizhixue to be the concubine of the Mo family!" ”
"Furthermore, what is inaction? If the land is divided, it can be bought and sold, and I have thousands of acres of land, dozens of cattle and horses, and many iron tools; Ten years later, their land will belong to me, and their people will work for my servants. ”
"Another example is the Mo family's co-farming society, those who flee to Sishang can join the society, if there is no co-farming society, the landless people in the Song Dynasty will be willing to come to my village to help. But in doing so, they have made many people have other ways to live, so that I have to hire people to spend more and more, how can this be regarded as a cure for nothing? ”
"In the end, is collecting taxes considered plucking other people's hair for the benefit of the world? For example, if a tax is collected and used to dig a canal for the benefit of all, is it not not moral for you to pay the tax? If everyone does not pluck a hair, and everyone is not good for the world, then the world will rule, if you are in power, will this tax be paid or not? ”