For the elites under the old rules of the old system, Shi didn't really want to talk to them about these things.

It is impossible to argue about right or wrong on a specific matter, and in the end it is only the turn to talk about some basic things, and those things are difficult to convince each other.

There was a rumor that King Wu asked Jizi about the destiny of heaven after the war, and after hearing about it, he was nervous and fell seriously ill, and died the next year.

I'm afraid that this is just talking about theocracy, Taoism, and legal principles, which are mysterious and mysterious. After all, for the merchants, the God they recognized was the ancestor of the Yin Shang royal family, and it was a family, and Zhou could only change the meaning of God if he wanted to talk about the Mandate of Heaven, but it was extremely difficult.

At this time, the question that this scholar talked about was actually similar in a sense.

The foundation of Confucianism is the reform of the ancient system, and they think that they are right, because some things are eternal and unchangeable in the ancient times of Yao Shunyu, so their morality is legitimate.

Now after the scholar finished laying the groundwork, he said: "Zhongni is a great talent, but after Zhongni dies, there are Confucianism of Zizhang, Confucianism of Yan, Confucianism of Qidiao, Confucianism of Zhongliang, and Confucianism of Lezheng." ”

"Confucianism counts points, but the trade-offs are opposite, and they all call themselves true holes. The remainder is heretical and corrective. ”

"If Chung Ni cannot be resurrected, who will be condemned as the true Confucian? Who is heretical? Who is the correction? ”

"The root of this is because the events of Yao Shunyu's era cannot be known, they are all speculation or fabrication, so that anyone can say that they are true Confucians, and then reprimand others for heresy and correction."

"Confucianism is like this, isn't there such a danger for the Mo family?"

"Now the suitable son is still here, the Mo family is still one, united and synonymous, and comrades are of the same heart. The Mo family does not shy away from life and death, so if Shizi dies, won't the Mo family divide into many factions, each thinking that it is orthodox, and rejecting each other as heretics and amendments? ”

"It is foolish to think that the success of the Mo family is synonymous with its failure."

Shi smiled and did not refute directly, but asked: "Why is success synonymous with failure?" ”

The scholar glanced at Shi Shi and said with a smile: "How can Shi Zi not know? It is nothing more than an attempt to hear what I say, and then to find flaws in my words to refute me, to avoid the main issues, to overturn everything about me from the small faults in my words. ”

"But it doesn't matter, I don't want to defeat Shizi in words, I just need to say it, if Shizi avoids the important and light, then even if I am refuted by Shizi because of a small mistake in my words, then I am also the winner, because my purpose is not to refute Shizi in words but to be sure that Shiko knows and can't refute it, lose or win, you have to look at it from my purpose."

This kind of unilateral declaration of victory before arguing made many people present laugh.

The scholar was not shy, and said indifferently: "Success is also synonymous, needless to say, I only say that defeat is synonymous." ”

"The giant son of the Mo family must have the right to interpret Tianzhi. Then this will fall into a situation after the Confucian score: all the giants must make the upper and lower synonymous, recognize their own interpretation of the 'true ink', and thus rebuke others for heretical correction, which is precisely to attack the heresy. ”

"At that time, there will inevitably be endless internal strife, everyone thinks that they are the real Mo, they all think that others are heretics, the Mo family is infinitely divided, and in the end the world will be in chaos."

"In today's troubled times, Mo Zhai knows both the will of heaven and the battle array, and the same is true for Shizi. Therefore, Shizi can not only explain Tianzhi, but also think that he is a giant, and he can also hold the military power, and the world will not dare to disobey. If it is in the future, will those who hold military power be able to know that Tianzhi interprets nature? How will this problem be solved? ”

The words of the scholars were a variant of the Legalist doctrine that had just begun to circulate and be carried forward at this time.

Originally, there was indeed a situation in history where "Confucianism and Mo are infinitely divisible", Confucianism did not mention eight points, and the Mohists were also three points, and then three points, and finally there were those who went to the Legalists, the Taoists, and the retro samurai spirit.

Criticizing each other, fighting with each other, and eventually having to respect one thing for orthodoxy, this is a theocratic struggle in the broad sense of the word of civilization.

I have to say that the problem that this scholar said does exist, but in fact it is not dangerous.

After the reorganization of the Mo family under Shangqiu City, Shi did not choose to take the route of training troops to grasp military power, and then wait until the future to purge the military coup.

But from that time on, he was the first person to abide by the rules of the entire Mo family, starting from the secretary of Mozi, mastering the internal party building and ideological interpretation power, and then grasping the economy and the military, and the economy and military are only auxiliary, and finally he has the righteousness of "explaining the nature of Tianzhi", and thus becomes a giant, not a military coup.

He had no way to solve the situation that the scholars had mentioned, because from the very beginning he had prepared for the Mo family to divide into many different schools in the future.

What the Mohists now represent is the interests of the emerging bourgeoisie, and they want to crush the small peasants, small citizens, and small producers who were the basic base of the Mohists at the beginning. Of course, there will be rebellion and dissatisfaction, and this kind of resistance and dissatisfaction will be crushed to maturity by the wheel of history, until one day when these crushed classes have nothing but sell their labor, and the problems of the world will be much simpler.

It's like a consistent approach: he can't solve the question that Qufu people asked Mozi back then, that is, I love Zou people more than Yue people, and I love Lu people more than Zou people...... The appropriate solution is to solve the problem of the Lu people, the more people and the Zou people, and become the people of the world.

In the same way, he will not be able to solve the various struggles in the future, so he will simplify the problem, let the contradictory opposites become fewer and fewer, and turn the colorful into light and dark.

Therefore, he didn't care whether the Mo family would split in the future, so he would keep the peasant family with a strong fantasy element and reconcile with them, and maintain the faction of self-suffering and extremism within him.

At this time, the scholar asked this question, which was quite a bit like the meaning of King Wu asking Jizi back then.

After thinking for a while, he asked the scholar: "You said that Confucianism attacked each other and heresy, I know." But you say that Confucianism is the same, they are all emulating Yao Shunyu, but in fact, it is not true. If you want to solve the problem you mentioned later, you must first figure out whether the Mohists imitate Yao Shunyu and the Confucian law Yao Shunyu is not the same thing. ”

Scholars said: "The law is different, the trade-offs are different, and they all call themselves Zhenyao, Shun, and Yu." You can say things differently than trade-offs, but you can't say things are different. For example, the Mohists from Yao Shunyu are synonymous with Shangxian, and Confucianism is moral eternal, but they are all ancient laws, aren't they? ”

"Isn't your so-called equality, love, and synonym, and the fact that according to the principles of Taoism and nature, land should belong to the people of the world?"

"Under the whole world, it is not the king's land. If it weren't for Fagu, how could it be correct to conclude that the land belonged to the people of the world? ”

"Because you need to be right, you have to recognize that the old times were right. In ancient times, it was correct, but Yin was more than 700 years old, Yu and Xia were more than 2,000 years old, and Yao and Shun were 3,000 years old before the way, and no one knew what was going on at that time, which would lead to everyone being able to say that they were true Confucianism and true Mo. ”

Shi Da laughed and said: "I thought that you would definitely make a high statement this time, but I don't want to be some presumptuous words." It is very clear in the Mohist book that the truth that the land is owned by the people of the world comes from nature, and the so-called Tao is natural, not Tao Yao Shun. ”

"It's just that when Yao Shun was around, it happened that the land was owned by the people of the world. Yao Shun is a saint, but even if he is a saint, how can he compare with Tianzhi Nature? ”

"The Mohist law is systematic, and the law comes from nature, not the ancient sages."

"The Mo family takes Yu as holy, which is to praise Dayu for the wind and rain to benefit the world, not to praise everything about Dayu. At the time of Dayu, all the manpower and material resources in the world had to be used to control the water, is it possible that the Mo family will now take all the manpower and material resources in the world to control the water? ”

"The wind and rain dredge the river so that people are not fish and turtles, but for the benefit of the world; The study of Tianzhi invention machinery mastery skills to allocate land is for the benefit of the world. The Mo family admires, the soul of Yu, not its government. ”

Zi Mozi said: Yao is good at governance, and since now it has been in the ancient times. Since ancient times, Zeyao cannot be governed. ”

"Yao was a man of good governance, but it was a policy that was in line with the realities of the time. At that time, slash-and-burn farming, Yao burned and planted in the spring, which can be called good governance; But now that the wheat has been planted, if it is still burned in the spring, it will be harmful to the government. ”

"In ancient times, Yao was good at governance; In the past and in the present, the government of Yao is harmful. ”

"What is good governance? Make the world profitable. ”

"How do you know if the world is profitable? Zi Mozi has three expressions, is the so-called population increasing? Does the sum of genius wealth increase? Does increased wealth benefit the majority? ”

The Mohists believe that Tianzhi is naturally eternal, and Confucianism believes that loyalty, propriety, righteousness and morality are eternal. That's the essential difference. ”

"Zi Mozi looked at concave mirror imaging in the past, thinking that concave mirror imaging was known as the center of the sphere, but in the past, under Shangqiu City, I used grass silk to do flying birds and said that the shadow would not migrate, Zi Mozi said that the test was the first, and after verification, he found that the concave mirror imaging was symmetrical with the focus rather than the center of the sphere."

"Zi Mozi looked at the pulley and the inclined plane in the past, and gave that it is less labor-saving to pull the object on the inclined plane than to directly pull the object in the air, so some people in the order of today have proposed the quadrilateral law of force."

"Zi Mozi thought in the past that the reason why force and things are also in shape. But now it has been proven that the knowable force is the source of the change in the original state of the object, not the cause of the object's motion. ”

"Therefore, nature is eternal, and the truth of man's interpretation of nature can be changed, and only nature is eternal and unchanging, and right and wrong can be judged."

"So the people of the Mo family can make mistakes, and they can be pointed out that they are wrong."

"And if morality is eternal, and faithfulness, propriety, and righteousness are eternal, then the most virtuous are the ancient saint kings such as Yao Shunyu, so they are the closest to eternal morality, so there is no Yao good governance, and since now in the ancients. Since ancient times, Zeyao has not been able to cure the problem. The government of Yao must be good governance, which will lead to the situation that you said that the government of the seven hundred Yu Xia and two thousand ancient saint kings of Yin Shang is all dependent on compilation. ”

"Because morality is eternal, the holy king is correct, so the law is reasonable, so it has to be compiled. Why did the Mo family make it up? Yao's policy was good governance at that time, and now it is harmful government, our law is nature, and the law system originates from the Tao, so what are we doing with the ancient government? ”

"It's not because Yao Shun is Shang Xian, so Shang Xian is right, but because Shang Xian is right, so Yao Shun is the Holy King when he does this. Yao only planted one season of grain, and just because Yao only planted one season, it should not be said that Yao's government must be good governance, but it should be considered that it is a bad government now, but it is good government under the circumstances at that time. ”

"The legal system of the Mohists is nature, and the giant inherits the method of understanding the natural world, rather than an unchangeable conclusion. The legal system of Confucianism is morality, and what Confucianism inherits is the belief that morality is eternal and unchanging, and it is a conclusion that cannot be changed. That's the difference, so what you're worried about isn't at all. ”

"If we can deduce that we can do B in the future, but now I am doing A, then in the future they will naturally be able to say, 'Good governance will be in the past.'" Since ancient times, it is suitable for treatment'. What's so scary about that? ”