Luo Xin looked at everyone's stunned expressions and continued:

"What will happen to the farmer who grows vegetables if he has no one to buy his vegetables?

Starve.

No one buys fish anymore, what will happen to those fishermen?

Starve!

If you don't buy oil, salt, sauce and vinegar, what will happen to those workshops?

Starve.

That is to say, those of us who have the ability to make money, whether it is eating the state's money, or those merchants and families, are to spend money, and only those of us who have the ability to spend money, to eat, to buy clothes, to spend all the money we can, can more people not starve to death. For example, now, when we have a meal here, we can help the bosses here, the guys here, the meat sellers, the vegetable sellers, the fish sellers, the oil, salt, sauce and vinegar people in the market, the pigs, the chickens, ducks and geese, the fishermen, and the workshops, so that they will not become starving to death from a state of food and clothing.

The reason why the Ming Dynasty was founded was because of hard work. What would happen if hard-working people gave away the money they earned to others for free?

It will create the idea of getting something for nothing, and what will they do if they don't get the benefits of not getting something for nothing? If you are unwilling to work hard, you will become a rogue, so the morality of the Ming Dynasty will collapse, and you will become the same as the original Hun and the Japanese.

I know you'll talk about the victims, not because they're not industrious, but because of natural disasters.

So, all the municipal farmers and industrialists, what do they usually pay taxes? It is for the state to use it at this time. Otherwise, what else would the Ming Dynasty do? What else do you want us officials to do? ”

Hai Rui looked at Luo Xin in a daze, and Zhang Juzheng and the others also fell into deep thought. In the middle of the ring, Zhang Juzheng looked at Luo Xin and said:

"No, what you said seems to make sense, but I still don't understand."

Including Hai Rui, everyone looked at Luo Xin.

"Circulation!" Luo Xin said in a deep voice: "A pool of stagnant water will stink, but living water will always be clear. Why is that? It's because of circulation.

For example, the meal we have today, this is the circulation of wealth, the circulation of money. This meal, we not only ate a full stomach, but also let the wealth in our hands circulate, from the owner of this restaurant to the guys, the merchants of the market, to the farmers, farmers, vegetables, fishermen, artisans. And these bosses, fellows, breeders, farmers, vegetable farmers, fishermen, and artisans did not get something for nothing, but through labor they acquired the capital to survive. ”

Everyone fell into deep thought, even Hai Rui also frowned and thought, no longer saying that there were frozen bones on the Zhumen wine and meat stinky road.

Luo Xin slapped his face and woke everyone up from their contemplation: "Everyone, I still want to invite everyone here today to exchange views on disarmament matters. ”

Hai Rui said in a deep voice: "What is the exchange for this?" The soldiers of those guards are not big battles at all, and the soldiers who are big enough to fight are still called soldiers? Such people are cancers, and it is enough to lay them off. ”

"That's not the solution." Luo Xin shook his head and said: "They are also the people of the Ming Dynasty, they can be laid off, but they must arrange their future lives." Does Daming have land to give them now?

If you cut them off and don't give them land, whether they live or die, they will immediately become victims. We can't solve one problem and leave behind a bigger problem. ”

Hai Rui's face turned red, he also has advantages, that is, he will never hide his mistakes, and said a little embarrassedly:

"I didn't think of this, I just saw that the guard house was rotten to the root from top to bottom."

"yes!" Luo Xin sighed and said, "So this problem must be solved, and it must be solved well." Today we are faced with two problems. ”

Everyone's expressions became serious and looked at Luo Xin. Luo Xin frowned slightly and said:

"The first is the resettlement of these retrenched soldiers after disarmament.

The second is that after disarmament, the Ming Dynasty must still have a warlike army that can maintain the stability of the country. You don't want one day, Daming will be under the city again. ”

Wen Yinglu said: "This matter has been discussed three times by the adults in the court, but whether to disarm or not is very controversial. ”

"yes!" Zhang Juzheng nodded and said: "All people of insight have actually seen the other side of the Wei system, and the reason why there are still some people who oppose it is just because their interests have been moved. ”

Luo Xin waved his hand and said: "The matter of disarmament is necessary, and Your Majesty has already decided." Although there was some controversy among the ministers of the DPRK and the Central Committee, they also saw His Majesty's determination, and the voice of controversy became smaller and smaller, but on the contrary, they raised a large number of drawbacks and problems after the disarmament, and they hoped that the court would not be able to solve these shortcomings and problems, and they had to withdraw the disarmament. And we're the ones who are here to solve these problems. ”

Looking at everyone, Luo Xin continued: "We were called the Little Sixth Division, it is not nice to say, if we deal with this matter well, we are the real Little Sixth Division, which not only solves problems for the country and the people, but also proves our ability." But if we don't solve these problems, we are behind the blame, this matter is not only related to the Ming Dynasty's national capital, but also related to our future, and even our lives, I mean, today let's first come up with a charter, reach a consensus, and then each go back to find their own Shangshu Lord, in one direction to advance this matter. ”

After listening to Luo Xin's words, Zhu Dashou spoke: "Good idea." The seven of us can represent all aspects of the imperial court, the six ministries plus the Metropolitan Procuratorate. In a way, the seven of us are the representatives of the Sixth Ministry and the Metropolitan Procuratorate. As long as we can reach a consensus, the six parts basically have a direction. ”

Everyone nodded, and then fell silent, thinking of a solution to the problem. For a moment, the room fell silent.

In the middle of the ring, Hai Rui spoke: "I provoked this matter by me, and I thought of a few ways. The first method is to free the laid-off soldiers to earn a living, they can go into business, they can do business, they can farm. ”

Tao Dalin shook his head and said, "This method is not advisable. First of all, those soldiers are illiterate, even if the state is kind and allows them to study and take scientific examinations, but they don't know the words, how to go on this road?

Speaking of farming, they don't even have land, how can they farm?

Finally, when it comes to business, they can't eat enough, where do they get the capital to do business? ”

Luo Xin waved his hand and said, "Brother Hai, is there a second way?" ”

"Yes!" Hai Rui nodded and said: "We can disarm not all at once, but slowly, in batches, so that the military will rebound less, and it is relatively easy to arrange a batch of dismantled troops every year." ”

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