Even if Luo Xin doesn't go, almost all of the officials in the city department are Luo Xin's subordinates at the beginning, and they must have been invited several times. So he asked:

"My lord, how do you feel about the current city?"

"It's growing fast!" Luo Xin nodded and said, "The number of ships from the vassal kingdoms that came to trade with the Ming Dynasty has increased several times. ”

"My lord, you don't feel anything else?" Zheng Ruozeng's eyes showed disappointment.

Luo Xin was silent for a moment, looked at Zheng Ruozeng and said: "You want to say that more than a hundred years ago, it was our fleet that went out to sea to explore the ocean, and the people of those vassal countries all took our Ming ships to our Ming Dynasty to see and pay tribute. And now people already have their own ships, and they are better than the sea ships of Daming today, and they came to Daming on their own ships, and they are not tributes, but to do business with us? ”

"yes!" Zheng Ruozeng looked at Luo Xin with burning eyes and said, "Those feudal kingdoms have made much progress!" Now their ships are stronger than our ships, and their guns are sharper than ours. If we were to fight at sea with the ships of those vassal states, I am afraid that we would not be opponents. We can only win by numbers. ”

Luo Xin was also silent, and sighed softly: "History is advancing, and the world is naturally constantly changing. Before, we Ming people thought that our Ming was the center of the world and the largest place in the world. But now we know that our Ming Dynasty is not the center of the world, nor is it the largest place.

In the past, there was an endless sea that cut us off, but now with the development of the times, the navigation technology of the Europa people has developed like never before. The ships they have built have been able to carry them across the oceans to all parts of the world, and they have benefited greatly from it. A small furlong, the land of projectiles, its status is very low compared to Europa, but now they are the richest in the world, the most powerful navy, and the most extensive territory in the world, with the help of the sea. ”

"yes!" Zheng Ruozeng said with emotion: "If Zheng Gong did not seal the sea after going to the West and continued to develop navigation, where would there be a matter of Franc Machine!" I once met a Franco, he showed me a map, he pointed to the map of our Ming territory, your Ming territory is not small, but as long as the sun shines, it is our territory. This is because they can attack any land country in the world at will, but those land countries cannot go down to the sea to fight them. Therefore, they can only defend passively, but they come and go freely.

For example, our Da Ming, although there are also sailors, but they are not the opponents of Franco. My lord, to put it irreverently, when you and Hu Zongxian exterminated the Japanese invaders, they did not rely on the power of the sea, but introduced the Japanese to the land and wiped them out on land. If it was at sea and fought against the four great Japanese at that time, I am afraid that our Daming Sailor would not be an opponent. ”

Luo Xin nodded, and Zheng Ruozeng continued: "In other words, now the Furlong Machine has been able to threaten our Da Ming. ”

"Not bad!" Luo Xin nodded and said: "And the threat does not come from the only Franc, you don't underestimate those traditional powers in Europa, in Europa, the two most powerful countries France and Britain, Franc is just an upstart." These two powers just didn't see the benefits of the sea before, and now the Franc machine has set an example for them, how can the powerful France and Britain let a small Franc machine dominate the past?

These two powers have understood that the sea is a conduit between the nations of the world and will be a point of contention in future wars. Therefore, whichever country has high shipbuilding technology, has a large number of ships, large tonnage, and strong artillery and other technologies will be able to defeat its opponents, control the sea lanes, and start from dominating the seas to dominate the world. ”

Zheng Ruozeng clapped his hands excitedly and said, "My lord, you are so right. In future wars, the position of the naval division will be in the first place, and the balance of power between countries will no longer be cavalry and infantry, but naval divisions. The power of the sailor will determine the power of the state. Whoever can dominate the seas is a strong country. Therefore, there is a need for enough sailor bases, and a strong sailor is needed. Offense is always the best defense. And now our Ming sailors are not only backward in technology, but also backward in thinking, just blindly defending, can only get more and more backward, passively beaten. ”

Luo Xin looked at the other side, and there was a look of appreciation in his eyes, he didn't expect that in the era of Daming, he would meet a person who knew so much about the ocean, a person with such an enterprising heart, and a person who wanted to dominate the ocean and dominate the world.

"Listening to your words, it is better to read for ten years, Mr. is worthy of being the person who knows the most about the ocean in the Ming Dynasty, I came to the right place this time."

Zheng Ruozeng's eyes lit up and said, "Your Excellency has the idea of reviving the water master?" ”

Luo Xin shook his head and smiled bitterly: "Don't hide it, sir, I originally came here this time just for the pirates of the Jiaolai River, but I didn't expect you to paint a magnificent future for me." ”

"Jiaolai River Kaido?" Zheng Ruozeng paused slightly and said: "There is no difficulty in water conservancy technology, my lord, wait for me." ”

Zheng Ruozeng stood up and left in a hurry, and after a while, he returned to the house with a stack of papers, put it in front of Luo Xin, and said:

"My lord, this is my research on the Jiaolai River and the seaway."

Luo Xin picked up the stack of papers and began to look at it, there was silence in the room, Luo Xin flipped through it quickly, and he also had a plan for the Jiaolai River and Haidao in his heart, so it was okay to just look at the rough outline. But to Luo Xin's surprise, Zheng Ruozeng's thoughts coincided with Luo Xin, which couldn't help but sigh at the wisdom of the ancients. Putting down the paper in his hand, he said admiringly:

"Sir, great talent!"

Zheng Ruozeng shook his head and said: "My lord, solving the Jiaolai River and Haidao has never been a technical problem, but a human problem. If you want to solve the problem of the Jiaolai River and the seaway, IMHO, you will encounter a lot of resistance from interest groups. In the end, it is likely to end in failure. Therefore, if you want to solve the Jiaolai River and the seaway, you must first solve the interest groups. ”

"I understand!" Luo Xin carefully put away the stack of papers.

"My lord, in fact, it is very simple to solve the problem of interest groups."

"Oh? Let's talk about it. ”

"That is to give greater benefits to the interest groups, in exchange for the interests of the Jiaolai River Seaway, at that time, not only will they not stop the adults, but they will also support the adults and promote this matter."

"So how do you exchange that? What benefits are there to satisfy them? ”

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