On the evening of November 4, in the big tent of Huang Taiji, in addition to the left army Mang Gurtai and a few other large and small beylors, the Jurchen relatives of the middle route army and the right route army were almost all present.

From the first day to the fourth day, the Houjin army's attack on Zunhua City was frustrated again and again, and the clansmen they left outside Zunhua City in these days, in addition to more than 300 armored soldiers, there were more than 700 unarmored soldiers and miscellaneous soldiers.

When the war reached this level, the voices of the Jurchen relatives and nobles who supported Daishan and Mang Gurtai suddenly became louder. At this meeting, Dai Shan once again put forward the idea of withdrawing troops, he believed that Zunhua City could not be attacked for a long time, the army was under the fortified city, and the old soldiers of the division must be tired after a long time, once the Ming army came to help, plus delayed until the heavy snow in winter blocked the way home, it was very likely that it would be difficult for everyone to return home.

But the problem is that Huang Taiji can't just admit defeat and then agree to withdraw his troops now. Changing the intended goal of the expedition in the middle of the expedition, in principle, he had taken the lead in destroying the political tacit agreement of the four major Baylors in the country of Houjin. If Vamin fails to achieve a brilliant victory this time, then it risks shaking the political prestige he had previously erected.

It is very likely that after the return of the army, the other three Baylors will join forces to demand an explanation from him, so as to prevent him from wanting to act arbitrarily next time. Maybe the three Baylors can't do anything with Huang Taiji, who has already controlled the two white flags, but the little Baylors who supported him to change the goal of the expedition this time will inevitably be subjected to the political liquidation of the three Baylors.

Huang Taiji can't let the three Baylors join forces to liquidate their supporters, and he can't let the three Baylors find an excuse to split the Eight Banners. Because these two results will make him lose the opportunity to integrate the various forces within the Jin in the short term, and after the completion of the unification of the power in the Jin country.

If he wants to avoid these two outcomes, he must persist in fighting this war, either to capture the fortified city in front of him, or to achieve a victory that is enough to cover up the halfway change of the target of the crusade.

In order to be able to have the initiative at this meeting, Huang Taiji even found an excuse to send Mang Gurtai to the front line of Santun Camp and preside over the attack on Santun Camp, in order to make it impossible for Dai Shan and Mang Gurtai to join forces at the meeting.

Compared with Mang Gurtai, who is young and strong and known for his severity, Dai Shan, who acts with scruples because of old age, is obviously easier to deal with. After the contemporary good put forward the idea of withdrawing the troops, Huang Taiji did not directly refute it, but looked at Yue Tuo with his eyes.

In this situation, whoever speaks out against Dai Shan will be hated by this big Baylor, which will cause a break between Huang Taiji and Dai Shan, which is exactly what Huang Taiji tries to avoid. But Yue Tuo is different, as Dai Shan's eldest son, no matter how much he doesn't attract Dai Shan's love, his identity will not make others think that there is an irreparable estrangement between Huang Taiji and Dai Shan.

Under Huang Taiji's gaze, Yue Tuo had to speak out against Dai Shan's statement, believing that although the attack on Zunhua had suffered a small setback, it did not mean that the Ming army had undergone earth-shaking changes.

He felt that the Ming army was still the cowardly army that did not dare to fight, and now the Ming army in Zunhua City was just an outlier in the Ming ** team, just like the Zhejiang soldiers and Sichuan soldiers who appeared in the bloody battle of the Hunhe River.

On the same day, the Zhejiang soldiers and the Sichuan soldiers were surrounded by Jurchen soldiers and horses several times their own on the edge of the Hunhe River, and successively defeated the besieging two white flags and two yellow flags, killing 2 or 3 thousand elite soldiers of the Eight Banners, and the men and horses of the banners did not dare to come forward to fight.

But the Mandate of Heaven Khan just refused to let this Ming army leave, and finally bribed the Shenyang gunners to bombard the Ming army's array with artillery, and killed it in chaos, and after that, the Ming army no longer dared to fight with the Eight Banners Army.

Although this Zunhua City is the first fortified city encountered since entering the pass, the Ming army in the city is not more than 10,000, it is impossible to block the attack of tens of thousands of elite soldiers of the Eight Banners, and the victory will eventually belong to the Houjin.

However, if you suffer a small setback under the city of Zunhua today, and easily withdraw your troops and return to China, then it will undoubtedly be tantamount to showing weakness to the Ming army and telling those Ming people that the Houjin army is afraid of siege warfare. In the future, as long as the Ming army has a city to defend, it will not surrender easily.

The Ming people had infinite manpower and material resources, and they could continue to use the fortress to advance towards Shenyang. The reason why this tactic had failed in the past was entirely because the Ming people never thought that they could defeat the Jurchen army, and as long as the Ming army was cut off from the back route, they could not wait to start fleeing.

But if these Ming people know that they have the possibility of defeating the Jurchen army head-on, even if 3 or 4 of the ten Ming troops fight with this idea, the army formed by the Ming State is not something that Houjin with a population of hundreds of thousands can resist.

Therefore, in order to deter the Ming people, it is necessary to capture Zunhua City in order to maintain the prestige of the Eight Banners Soldiers' victory in a hundred battles, even if the loss of men and horses is worth it. Only by capturing Zunhua City and beheading all those Ming people who dare to resist, after entering the customs next time, will no Ming city dare to resist the Houjin army, which can be regarded as following the old example of Heavenly Mandate Khan.

Yue Tuo's words persuaded many people that although a group of Jurchen relatives and nobles who first followed Nurhachi to unify the Jurchen tribes have passed away, the group of people sitting in the big tent now are still generals who have experienced the Later Jin founding war, and they are also the most outstanding talents among the Jurchen tribes at this time.

Jurchen relatives who were too mediocre or ill-informed could not survive the foreign wars of the Later Jin Dynasty and the internal political struggles of the Later Jin Dynasty. The huge pressure of a newly built state with a population of hundreds of thousands against the trillions of Ming, as well as its two allies, Mongolia and Korea, not only stabilized the internal contradictions of the Jurchens and remained in a state of unbreakable fighting, but also allowed the most outstanding talents to emerge from the Jurchens.

Today, the Later Jin Dynasty was able to ASEAN Korea and suppress the Mongolian tribes in the west, and the Ming Kingdom in the south, not because of how many soldiers and generals the Later Jin had, but because the Later Jin defeated the Ming army and the main Mongolian force in Liaodong several times, so that the Mongolian tribes and the tribes in Liaodong did not dare to resist the idea of the Later Jin again.

Once the Later Jin lost the military invincibility of the deterrent, the neighboring countries around the Later Jin would inevitably be ready to move again, especially once the Ming State lost its awe of the military power of the Later Jin, even if it was ten people in exchange for one, it could drive the Jianzhou Jurchen tribes from the Northeast Plain back to the old forests of Hetuala.

And today's Jurchen is no longer a small tribe of hundreds of people when Nurhachi started. Once the Northeast Plain is lost and retreats to Hetuala, the Jurchen tribes that were forcibly annexed by Nurhachi will inevitably be divided again. At that time, I am afraid that a small group of Ming troops will be able to capture them back and let the Ming Emperor win the Taimiao.

The Jurchen relatives and nobles in the big tent all knew that Yue Tuo stood up to refute his father's proposal to withdraw from the army, perhaps with the intention of protecting himself and currying favor with Huang Taiji. But the reason he gave is quite correct, and it is indeed one thing that everyone is worried about.

It is just that they did not enter the pass to attack the Ming State before, and since they have entered the pass but cannot continue to deter the Ming army, then it means that they have failed this battle.

With Yue Tuo opening up the situation, several little Baylors, who also supported Huang Taiji, also stood up to support Yue Tuo's statement. Only then did Huang Taiji speak: "I think what you Baylor said is very correct, if we withdraw our troops at the slightest setback, I am afraid that the Ming army will underestimate my Eight Banners."

The next time we enter the customs again, if the Ming people all swear to resist to the death, it will be detrimental to our Houjin Kingdom. The Ming Kingdom is such a big place, if we fight one place at a time, even if we kill all the people of the Eight Banners, we may not be able to conquer a small half of the Ming Kingdom.

But if we can continue to erect in the hearts of the Ming people the belief that the Jurchens are invincible, then the Ming people will inevitably choose to be captured in addition to fearing the prestige of our army. Wouldn't it be a good thing that you wouldn't have to use swords and weapons to get what you wanted from the Akito?

What's more, the people of the Ming people we have met since entering the customs have said that in the area east of the capital of the Ming Kingdom, the richest is this Zunhua City, which not only lives nearly 20,000 households inside and outside the city, but also the place where the material transfer of the defenders of the Great Wall in Jizhou is located, and a large number of warehouses are built inside and outside the city.

As long as we take Zunhua City, just a few warehouses in the city will be enough for our army to use for two or three years. Not to mention, after defeating Zunhua City, whether we continue to attack the capital of the Ming Kingdom, stay where we are, or return to Shenyang after the pass, we don't have to worry about the army following behind us to hinder us..."

Huang Taiji then mainly described a rich scene in Zunhua City, which came from the Ming merchants who were bought by him, so the scenery he described in the city was simply lifelike. This is also to make these Jurchen relatives and nobles not forget the wealth in the city, so they choose to support and continue to fight.

Although Huang Taiji used Yue Tuo to reverse the situation that was unfavorable to him at the meeting, Dai Shan obviously had no intention of backing down this time, and he continued: "What Yue Tuo said may have some truth, in order to maintain the prestige of the Jurchen army, it is true that you cannot retreat after encountering setbacks.

However, even in order to maintain the prestige of our Eight Banners army, I did not use the children of the Eight Banners as coolies, so that those Mongols and the surrendered Ming army stood aside and watched the play.

Therefore, I thought that even if we wanted to attack the city, we should first find some Ming prisoners and Mongols to clean up the buildings and people in the outer city of Zunhua. As I am now, it is completely unacceptable for me to use my Eight Banners disciples to fill in the trap of Ming people.

In particular, the Right Route Army's Gushan Ezhen Yuetuo acted inherently, resulting in the loss of more than 10 Niu Lu in succession by the Right Route Army, and I thought that he should be punished and removed from his post as Gushan Ezhen of the Right Route Army. ”

Dai Shan jumped out to attack his son, and although Huang Taiji was happy to see this, he still came forward to defend it. However, Dai Shan's suggestion to use the Ming army and the Mongols to replace the Jurchen Eight Banners in the street battle outside Zunhua City also won the support of most of the people present.

Under this general trend, Huang Taiji had to withdraw the order to give preferential treatment to the Ming people and arrange for them to conduct tomorrow's siege battle. However, Huang Taiji still insisted on the use of Mongolian soldiers, and the Mongolian soldiers and horses were mainly used to monitor the situation near the battlefield and the sentinel tasks on the periphery, and did not regard them as cannon fodder that could be sacrificed at any time.

After the meeting, Yue Tuo had to hand over the position of Gushan Ezhen of the Right Route Army, but this position did not fall into the hands of Dai Shan, but was placed in the hands of Zilharang.