Zhao Zhen turned around and sighed: "What you have changed is only for a while, and it doesn't touch the fundamentals." Pen | fun | pavilion www. ｂｉｑｕｇｅ。 info You take a look at Ouyang Xiu's "Original Cheats", quoting scriptures and classics, and going to the root sentence by sentence. Now the disadvantages have been deep, headaches and pains, foot pain, this is not good, we must change the course from the root! ”

Xu Ping was silent for a while before he said: "Your Majesty must ask, and the minister has to say something straightforward, if there is something inappropriate, I hope Your Majesty will not blame." ”

"Just say, I just want to hear what you think!"

"I think that if you want to know how to change, you have to know what it is like now. In terms of Ouyang Xiu's 'disadvantages of tempting the people', it naturally sounds very reasonable, but is this really the case in rural farming now? ”

Zhao Zhen waved his hand to interrupt Xu Ping's words: "The truth is all there, how can there be no 'disadvantages of tempting the people'?" Of course it is! There is no doubt about that! ”

"The minister also knows that there is, but is this the reason for the withering of farming? How harmful is it? How effective is it to change this 'disadvantage of tempting people'? How many other things will be affected? Is it worth it? ”

"Aiqing, you just think too much!" Zhao Zhen turned around and left the window, returned to his seat and sat down. "The ancients said, 'If there is something, change it, and if there is none, it will be encouraged,' knowing that there are drawbacks, if you change it, it must be good to change!"

Zhao Zhen said as he motioned for Xu Ping to come over and sit down again.

Xu Ping thanked him, and after sitting down, he said: "Your Majesty, you will treat your head with a headache and a pain from your feet, at least you will not be able to cure people." If it's just a minor illness and the wrong pulse is diagnosed, taking medicine indiscriminately will cause a big problem. Or is it said that 'the disadvantages of tempting the people', there is nothing to say about restricting monks and Taoists, all temples and temples without official plaques will be demolished, and monks and Taoists without degrees will be ordered to return to the world, which is naturally good governance, because this does not involve other political affairs. But if joining the army as an official is also to lure good people not to do farming, then if no one joins the army, who will guard the frontier? If there are no public officials, who will govern the world? This is a question of degree, how many forbidden troops does the imperial court want, how many chamber troops do you want, how many public officials do you want in the world, and is there more or less now? Who can tell? ”

Zhao Zhen said slowly: "There are people in the government and the opposition, and now there are redundant soldiers, redundant officials, and redundant expenses. ”

"The minister is in the third division, and I don't know whether there are many or few soldiers now, but I know redundant officials and redundant expenses. Why do you say redundant? Because there are more officials in the government now than in the previous dynasty, especially more than in the time of the ancestors, but which one says that it is because things are idle? There are as many accounts as there are five or six years in the three divisions, there is no comparison, there is no check, is there more or less public officials? After the reduction of public officials, how to do these things, who can say why? If you cut people off and don't care about things, how can there be such a reason in the world? Officials assist His Majesty in governing the heavens, naturally they give priority to governing affairs, and when things drag on, they don't care about it, and they only play these words, what is the benefit of the government? Officials are set up for things, and when there are more things, there will naturally be more officials, and I am not afraid that there will be many officials, but I am afraid that no one will do things! As long as the officials are doing things with their hearts, where are the redundant officials? In the past few years, more than 1,000 officials have been recruited up and down, which has not been done in the previous dynasty, but these people give the court millions of extra money a year, are these people redundant? They don't know anything about the specific affairs of the court, they can only talk empty words, redundant soldiers, redundant officials, redundant expenses, where can they explain clearly? The ministers in the three divisions of the compilation of regulations and the appointment of public officials are precisely to make it clear how many things they do and how many manpower they need. Now Wechen doesn't dare to say that there are redundant officials, and who knows these better than Wechen! ”

Zhao Zhen said: "It always makes sense for everyone to say this. ”

"Your Majesty, Weichen just said it, now the whole world knows that the government needs a big change, but no one knows what to change and how to change. Those who are good at talking about it use such sensational words to attract attention. It sounds like truth everywhere, but it has nothing to do with the actual government. And the people who are immersed in doing things clearly know that these words are biased, but they involve a wide range of things, and they can't refute them at all. Even if you can refute it, no one will listen to it, but only blame the person who refutes it, where will anyone say it? Another example is redundancy, where is redundancy? Can anyone make that clear? It is said that the amount of reward for soldiers in the suburbs is huge, but can that be saved? After being omitted, how can the officers and soldiers have no complaints in their hearts? No one knows, but it is just that if the officers and soldiers complain in their hearts, they are greedy and hateful. In the end, it is nothing more than a sentence, let His Majesty love the people on the Day, and everything must be saved from the palace. Even if Your Majesty is holy and frugal, what can you do in the world? ”

To tell the truth, among the current emperors of the Great Song Dynasty, the most frugal is Zhao Zhen himself. Emperor Zhenzong spent money indiscriminately, but he was not very extravagant and wasteful, but Zhao Zhen was quite concerned about his small life. But since some officials proposed to save money and love the people, Zhao Zhen had to make a show to reduce court expenses.

Xu Ping's words are still quite appetizing to Zhao Zhen, no one wants to be accused of corrupting life and wasting people's fat and ointment every day. And no matter how they change, they will never be satisfied.

Seeing that Zhao Zhen's face softened a little, Xu Ping said again: "Officials are not afraid of many, as long as they are loyal to their duties and everyone has something to do, the more the better." I am not afraid to spend money, as long as the money spent is useful, not wasted, and the more money is spent, the better. In fact, there is nothing wrong with saying that redundant officials are redundant, but the key is in the word 'redundant', and what is useless is called redundancy. But for those who talk about redundancy and redundancy, as soon as the words are spoken, the next sentence will be turned to more. Redundancy is not the same as many, and I think everyone should understand this, so why are they deliberately confused? Because no one can refute them when they say redundancy, but if they want to make redundancy clear and understand that they can't do it, they play such a trick. What is the benefit of such nonsense to the government? It is said that redundant officials are redundant, so they want to reduce the number of employees, but they ignore what to do after the layoffs, and when the backlog of official duties is overwhelming, they push it off, which is even more harmful. ”

"A few years ago, when I talked about the tea method, why did I change it to enter the middle along the border? The reason for this is nothing more than that the transportation costs a lot of money, and it is better to buy cheaply from the merchants. It is also that official ships are more expensive to build than private ships, and there are rats and rodents, and it is the petty officials who cheat on the tea and salt to mix mud and sand, and there is a danger of sinking. I don't understand, these bad businessmen also have them, why is it that there is nothing in their hands, and Gangyun can't bear it? It's nothing more than that the handling officials are powerless to eliminate the malpractices, so they simply push it to the merchants, and wait until the merchants don't get through and then raise the price, and in the end, do you still have to spend more money on the court! Spend more money, can't you run with a program? Has any of the officials in charge of this account ever calculated? Without him, it will not do you any good. In the middle of the purchase, all the shortcomings can be blamed on the merchants, and the court cannot hold them accountable. As for whether it is good or bad for the imperial court, who really cares? Over the years, the tea law has changed again and again, and it cannot be supported if it remains unchanged. As a result, all the tea profits in the southeast belonged to the Chinese merchants, and the imperial court had no money, and the public officials and soldiers had to be allocated separately. In the end, it was nothing more than a stone of grain that had not entered Shaanxi Road for several years, and it was all looted from the people on the road. Lying about state affairs is nothing more than this consequence! ”

After listening to this tirade, Zhao Zhen didn't speak for a while, frowned, and finally sighed: "I just want to know how to change state affairs?" This is not the way to go! ”

Xu Ping arched his hand and said: "The minister thinks that since he knows that he wants to reform the national government, he must first figure out what to change and how to change it." If you are not sure, then think clearly about what are the benefits and disadvantages of changing a place, and correct them at any time. There is no silver bullet in the world, things always have to be done little by little, and it is impossible to rush to achieve it. ”

"So how do you figure it out?"

"The minister is in the third division, so he talks about the affairs of the third division, and the ministers of the other yamen have not handled it, so they dare not speak falsely. What we are doing now in compiling and revising the new regulations is to find out how much money and food we have received and how much we have spent, and where we have spent it. How much is the difference between receiving and out, and where is it wasted. It will take a year or two to find out the amount, check all the backlog of accounts, and use the new regulations to ensure that there will be no more backlogs in the future, and that there will be no more confused accounts in the future. When the accounts are clear, the officials in charge can no longer hold their hands. This is one of them. ”

Zhao Zhen nodded: "You have done a good job in this regard, don't slack off in the future." ”

"There are also public officials, who divide the affairs of the three divisions and the state and county officials into categories, which should be managed and which should not be managed, and some of them can no longer be allowed to become slaves of officials and waste public funds. In this way, it is clear that the number of public officials who need to be replaced, as long as it is ensured that the public officials have their own functions, according to the number of things, the number of personnel that should be supplemented will be supplemented, and the reduction will be reduced, and there is a specific purpose. Since we talk about redundant officials, we know clearly how much they do to know where the redundancy is. ”

"That's right, do it with your heart!"

"There is another point, Your Majesty should know in your heart that reforming the government costs money. Only by spending money from the outside can the new deal smoothly replace the old deal and make the world have no complaints. If you want to use the new deal to make money, it will inevitably cause public resentment to boil, and if you don't do it well, the world will be in chaos. The third thing the minister did was to gather wealth for His Majesty. With money in hand, when he decided to change the government later, he would have a lot less scruples. ”

Zhao Zhen heard this, and nodded reluctantly for a while. If the imperial court has money, then what is it going to do to change the government, isn't the reason why it is said to be reformed is because the imperial court has no money in its hands? But Xu Ping said this, and Zhao Zhen no longer said that it was wrong.

"The minister is in the third division, so he will do these three things for His Majesty. After doing three things, you may know how to change the government, and then make a theory. (To be continued.) )