Seeing that Xu Ping was expressionless and didn't speak, Zhao Zhen realized that his actions just now were a little undignified, and smiled awkwardly: "It's okay, you go on, what did you say in three points?" ”

Xu Ping is not a courtier, and he doesn't want to be a courtier to please Zhao Zhen, and most importantly, Zhao Zhen himself looks down on a courtier. Pen? Interesting? Pavilion wWw. ｂiquge。 info really gave him an impression that he was not serious, and his future was gone.

As a monarch, these words are not unspeakable. Since the time of Taizu, he has been more casual with the ministers, and Taizong is such a narrow-minded and harsh person, and he is no big or small when he drinks with his ministers. But if you want to divide the occasion, this is Tianzhang Pavilion, which is dedicated to the gods of the three emperors below Taizu, how can you make such a joke?

Sorting out a thought, Xu Ping said solemnly: "Liu, Guan, and Zhang swore an oath, I remember that in the oath, Liu Bei had a sentence, 'Today's three brothers, work together, save the needy, report to the country, and go down to Lishu!'" At that time, the three of them were still the people of the Han Dynasty, and the eight words of reporting to the country under An Lishu, the minister always felt that he had fulfilled the true meaning of being a courtier! ”

Zhao Zhen felt a little strange and asked, "These eight words are excellent, but what's so special?" ”

In particular, these eight words indicate the dual identity of the ministers. Reporting to the country is to repay the loyalty to the king, and Xia An Li Shu is to manage the affairs of the people with heart. The upper is an identity, and the lower is an identity, and these two identities are gathered in one person. If we want to talk about the bureaucracy, we naturally have to start with these two identities. ”

Zhao Zhen has slowly begun to get used to Xu Ping's way of thinking, often not with a perceptual attitude to say that this person is good and that person is not good, but from an objective point of view, rationally analyze the problem. Hearing Xu Ping start from the identity of a bureaucrat, Zhao Zhen couldn't help but be interested.

"Since the first emperor ruled the world, the six were one, and there were no counties to govern the country, and the courtiers of the court were very different from the pre-Qin period. At that time, the officials were sent by the imperial court to govern the locality, and the first thing they faced was the local tyrants. Therefore, the imperial court supported the officials with all their might, because without this support, the officials would not be enough to defeat the powerful. Local affairs are in the hands of Haoqiang, is that still the land of the imperial court? This was the beginning of the bureaucracy, which was a major change. ”

Zhao Zhen nodded, and after reading the history books carefully, he knew that most of the two Han Dynasty officials were able to govern the place by dealing with Haoqiang.

"The so-called combination of yin and yang is the way, there must be yin and yang, there must be yang and yang, and the combination of yin and yang is where the avenue is. Everything in the world is always entangled between yin and yang. At that time, the local powerful were powerful, so there was a single-minded struggle between the officials and the local powerful with the support of the imperial court. Later, the local powerful forces gradually weakened, and the officials naturally did not need such strong support from the imperial court, and the official system changed again. The magistrates served as localities, and the authority from the imperial court gradually shrank, and the supervision became more and more heavy. Without him, the local tyrants would be gone, and the contradiction between the local government and the central government would be transformed into a contradiction between the local officials and the imperial court. The power of supervision will continue to encroach on the power of the locality, and when there is a change, the power of supervision will become the power of the locality, and then there will be supervision of supervision. The reason for this is nothing more than that for the world, the local government and the court are one yin and one yang, and one is entangled together. ”

"In this dynasty, the collection of local elite soldiers with the three ya, and the collection of local money and grain with the three divisions has broken the foundation of the local confrontation with the imperial court. Therefore, although there are envoys to supervise the localities and criminal punishments to supplement them, after all, it is not as heavy as the supervision power of the previous dynasties, because it is no longer necessary. At this time, the contradiction between the local government and the central government, between yin and yang, is no longer between local officials and the imperial court, but between officials and officials. People in the world often say that in today's world, officials have no feudalism, but officials have feudalism, which can be described as a sentence. To govern the place, you have to use people who are familiar with the local geography and people, so the officials must have feudalism, which is a last resort and cannot be broken. The official is sent out by the imperial court, waiting for the expiration of one term, and not serving elsewhere, and then replacing another person as an official. At this time, the officials in the yamen were the heroes of the Han Dynasty, and the officials were the officials at that time. ”

"It's not intentional on purpose, but step by step, it's bound to become like this. Back to the previous sentence that said that Emperor Shuzhao Lie in three points, report to the country, and go down to An Lishu, officials naturally have these two identities. In order to prevent officials from confusing these two identities, they distinguished between officials and officials according to these two identities. ”

Zhao Zhen didn't understand Xu Ping's words, but the general meaning was still understood. The reason why there is a difference between officials and officials is that the officials themselves have dual identities, and the identity of officials is separated from the governance of the people, and the identity of officials is separated in the face of the imperial court. The two separated and eventually became two classes.

Xu Ping said: "So when it comes to the official system, we must first distinguish the difference between officials and officials, which positions are officials, which positions are officials, and which positions are in between, which can be regarded as both officials and officials." How should the officials be managed, and how should the officials be managed. Only by sorting out these can we have a target. You can't use the requirements of being an official to ask for officials, and you can't use the requirements of being an official to restrain officials, and the two things are different, and of course their identities and requirements are different. From an official to an official, what path should be followed, and only by understanding the identities of the two can we not lose it. ”

"Your Majesty asked the ministers about the system, and the ministers could only say that they should first clarify each position in the court, whether they asked the officials to do it, or did they ask the officials to do it? Then you can arrange the right person to the right position. Only by understanding the difference between the two can we know the rewards and punishments for each position, and only then can we elect the virtuous people and retire the unworthy ones. If you just say that you are not virtuous, it is actually the same as not saying it. ”

After listening to this tirade, Zhao Zhen smiled bitterly: "You said it hard, and I generally understood it." Although some of the current official positions in the imperial court are respected, in fact they are not necessarily presided over by officials, and some of them cannot be entrusted to public officials although they are of humble status. It makes sense, but it's too hard to get started! ”

Xu Ping smiled: "It's hard to say, it's easy to say it's simple?" What's the difficulty? Today, whether it is an official or an official, there are many places where they do not know what they should do, and they themselves are confused, how can they be clear? Where is the simplicity and simplicity? Because the truth is clear, as long as you list the steps and do it step by step, you can always get things done. If you don't achieve it in two years, or even ten or twenty years, you can always complete it, right? Governing the world is like cooking a small fresh, and the most feared thing is impatience, not how difficult things are. ”

Zhao Zhen asked, "Then where do you think it's appropriate to start?" ”

"Please start with the three divisions! It's not because the minister is in the three divisions, but the affairs of the three divisions are very complicated, and more than half of the government is now in the three divisions, and if the three divisions are clear, most of them will be completed! ”

Zhao Zhen didn't even think about it, and nodded directly: "I have this intention!" Well, what I value is that I am never afraid of difficulties! No matter how difficult things are, when they come to the front, they never shy away from them! Okay, let's start with the third division! After two days, when the affairs of the court are not so complicated, I will order all the ministers to gather together and make a charter! ”

"Your Majesty Shengming!" After speaking, Xu Ping looked up at Zhao Zhen. "However, Your Majesty, there is a sentence that the minister has to say. What I said just now is that the reason why officials are different is because there are unacceptable reasons. Since it is because of unavoidable reasons, there is only a difference in position, and there is no distinction between high and low. For example, today's scholars, after becoming officials, look down on officials, regard them as villains, and even disdain to be those complicated public officials. The three divisions began to clear the positions of officials, but they were treated equally, and there was no longer such a distinction between high and low! ”

Zhao Zhen lowered his head and thought for a while: "You can't say that, there must always be differences, and officials can't be equated with officials." ”

"The difference is naturally different, and the courtesy of the court is definitely different. The recusal law of officials is of the utmost importance, but officials do not require it, and different requirements naturally have different treatments. What the minister said is that there is no distinction between high and low anymore! ”

Zhao Zhen said with a smile: "No matter what an official, they are all doing things for the court, and there should be no distinction between high and low!" ”

"Your Majesty said so, and the minister knew it in his heart."

Xu Ping knew in his heart, don't look at what Zhao Zhen said, he would never think like this in his heart. Not to mention the difference between officials, there are also servants and servants among the officials, and the ministers in the court have never been a head taller than others? Those positions that were close to the emperor were never equal to ordinary positions. But in any case, it's good to have a big principle.

Seeing Xu Ping's breath of relief, Zhao Zhen said: "I agreed to your matter, then I will do one more thing." ”

"Your Majesty commands!" Xu Ping said it happily, but he was vigilant in his heart, but he was afraid that it would not be a good thing.

Zhao Zhen looked down at Xu Ping's appearance, and said with a smile: "You don't have to be nervous, I won't be difficult for you." How to change the three divisions is up to you. Then the other officials in the court, how to start the official system, you also issue a charter. I am in charge of the government, and I always have to do something, and I can't always push you to do it. ”

Xu Ping sighed, thought for a while, and said, "Your Majesty, when the minister first arrived in the Third Division, he did two small things. The first is to set up a department to revise the regulations and reformulate the regulations, and the other is to train and teach the officials of the three departments. ”

"You mean, I do the same, and gather the officials to attend classes?"

That's exactly what the minister meant! However, now that there are real positions in the court, it is inconvenient to recruit. In addition to those who have ministry, there are many non-box officials in the capital, and there are especially many candidates for office. It was not easy for these people to live, and some of the low-level officials who were candidates even died of starvation in the capital. In the past, in Yongzhou, the most powerful of my subordinates was Duan Fang, the county commander of Ruhe, but I didn't expect that the candidate in the capital would die of an illness——"

Hearing this, Zhao Zhen suddenly hit Xu Ping's shoulder with his fist, and then looked at him with ambiguous eyes.

Xu Ping suddenly remembered that the little thing between himself and Duan Yunjie did not escape Zhao Zhen's ears and eyes. The Imperial City Division looked inconspicuous, and the news was really well-informed. But there's nothing about it, it's out of love, it's about courtesy, I haven't done anything wrong, and I'm not afraid of what others say.

Xu Ping shook his head: "What the minister said is that it is not easy for these people to live in the capital, if Your Majesty finds a place, gives these people food and accommodation and gives them some change, so that they can train and take classes, it is a benevolent government." Moreover, it has indeed improved these people's ability to govern, which is to kill two birds with one stone! (To be continued.) )