Chapter 33: The Passage of Time
Arriving in The Hague means endless negotiations. Pen ~ fun ~ pavilion www.biquge.info
Morris is also returning from the front. I just got the news that the newly rising star Spinola on the opposite side has returned to Spain, mainly to buy national debt, the Spanish royal family is already on the verge of bankruptcy, and is ready to sell a batch of national debt and declare bankruptcy so that there is no need to pay it back.
Some of the directors of the Dutch Indian company were also gathered in The Hague, and they had to figure out what it was about this emerging trading partner or potential enemy.
After observing a drill of the Republican Army, which consisted mainly of disciplined liberal yeoman farmers for centuries, the basis for negotiations also existed.
After the soldiers demonstrated three rows of volleys with flintlock pistols, rapid flint gun loading, marching in unison, turning, quickly forming a squad after disbanding, turning left and right, digging pits with Dutch shovels, digging breastwalks, and detonating explosives by digging pits and burying explosives performed by the party comrades in the mines, Henry, the younger brother of Maurice, who had served in his brother's unit for a long time, was convinced that this was a new army system that was no less than or even superior to the Dutch system if it was not counted as cavalry.
Moreover, some comrades in the mining area who disguised themselves as "sappers" and had systematically learned the key points of bombing in Lanxiang for several years had more professional techniques in digging pits and burying explosives than those of the Dutch sappers.
By the time kerosene-fueled hot air balloons were lifted off and telescopes were reconnoitring, Henry was already a little flustered.
Once those high-powered explosives and hot air balloons fell into Spanish hands, it was a decisive blow to the Spanish-Dutch War, which was dominated by castle attack and defense, especially after the defeat in the Siege of Ostend.
Although there were no cavalry to follow, Chen Jian and an officer from a military family of the Republic showed off their riding skills. Chen Jian was born in the wild road from a bareback horse, and the officer was also skilled from a small saddle horse, and the level of collective charging did not show, but he had a bit of a nomadic light riding style.
Whether the artillery technology is good or not, just look at the artillery and then look at the level of mathematics. The trigonometric function is very slippery, and the level of artillery will not be bad.
So, believe it or not, they all began to negotiate on an equal footing.
Lengthy negotiations are not meaningless, and if you want to dominate or participate in a system, you must abide by the rules of the system, or act as a sponsor to make the rules.
Rules and so on are nonsense in the face of absolute power, but in the absence of a republic that will be involved in European affairs for ten years, the tedious negotiation of expanding its influence is imperative.
The Republic had absolute power in the archipelago and in Spanish America, and in the face of absolute power, negotiations in this area could be put to the end.
On the contrary, it is the spices and Asian trade that the Indian company is most concerned about, and the Asian affairs that Jian Chen wants to get involved in, are the main points of contention between the two sides.
From the very beginning, there was a lot of anxiety between the two sides.
Speaker Alden Barnefield and some of the directors of the Indian Company held the view that it was the Dutch who had signed a series of agreements with the local princes and people in the Spice Islands before the statutes of the Papal Meridian. These agreements were at the request of the local people and the princes, because they were not land that had not yet been occupied, but land that had already been occupied, and the Netherlands had only signed the treaty at the request of the local princes and people.
Therefore, on this basis, all the adjacent lands under the jurisdiction of the princes of the Spice Islands, with whom the Dutch had signed treaties, were within the limits of the Netherlands and were under the influence of the Netherlands. Only the Dutch had the practice of trading spices with the local people under their influence.
Chen Jian said that the republic did not recognize the papal meridian at all, and the meridian of the republic was in Mincheng, not in the Moluccas. There are no Christians in the republic, there is no knowledge of the Pope at all, and there is no belief in God, so it makes no sense for you to talk to me about this meridian.
So whether you have a treaty with the Maharaja or with the natives, it is just your personal act, not how much effort you have put into tearing up the Meridian Treaty. Your efforts are meaningless to the Republic, which does not recognize this meridian that divides the world.
War with Portugal or Spain, that's another story. The Republic recognizes the price you have paid for these wars, and recognizes the treaties you have made with the wars you have made in the Spice Islands...... And for the time being, pretend that the treaty you have signed is not a treaty of coercion.
But the Republic does not recognize your efforts to tear apart the Meridian Treaty - that is, only the contribution of war, and not the contribution of the war that violates the Papal Treaty, which is no less than the contribution of war.
This is within your system, not the international system.
Any international system is meaningless without the participation of the Council of the Republic and the plenipotentiary envoy sent by the King, and it is impossible for the Republic to recognize. The Papal Meridian is an example of this, and the republic did not even bother to send a letter to the Pope.
This contribution will be meaningful if France negotiates with you, and the Republic supports your contribution within the Catholic system. But when the British negotiate with you, they will certainly not agree to the Meridian agreement, because the existence of the Supreme Act makes them legally and naturally detached from the "international law" laid down by the Pope.
International law, without the participation of the Republic, is not legitimate.
The Grand Speaker Alden Barnefeldt heard Jian Chen's voice, although what Jian Chen said was all meaningless diplomatic rhetoric, and trying to pick out something that could be used from it was tantamount to picking pearls among tens of thousands of shells, but he still understood.
Chen Jian acknowledged that the Dutch had a monopoly on spices there, but did not admit that the waters there were closed to the rest of the people.
Immediately after that, the question moved on to the next topic.
That is, the distinction between territory, territorial waters, trading posts, treaty countries, unstable colonies, colonies, and indigenized colonies.
It was a very special time when the Dutch had just broken through the Portuguese blockade in Asia and gained a foothold for the time being.
Therefore, the concept of freedom of navigation in all maritime areas can be abandoned for the time being, and the concept of the existence of territorial waters can be pursued instead. Three years ago, they would never have recognized the concept of territorial sea and have always insisted that all seas are open seas.
Correspondingly, for "borderless lands" such as islands and continents, who will find them? Or is it who owns it? What kind of act would be considered a declaration of war? What kind of conduct will be considered a legitimate competitive development? What lands are considered "borderlands"?
Portugal and Spain, as the first mover countries, have always held a view. The first to discover, that is, to have ownership, and this concept of first discovery and possession has prevailed since the beginning of the Great Voyage.
The concept of this discovery is amazing: the discovery of the natural world and the mere sight, without the need to go to the island, to see that the land belongs to the discoverer.
But with the challenges of emerging and late-developing countries, the concept of whoever finds it no longer applies. In this regard, the Dutch also stated that in the case of "terra nullius", whoever occupies it belongs to whomever it occupies according to the law of private property under Roman law, and that this is "the only natural and primitive way of acquiring territory".
Chen Jian is still arguing with reason, saying that he does not know the existence of Rome and does not know what Roman law is.
According to the laws of the Republic, the terra nullius within the territory of any Republic belongs to the people of the Republic as a whole. Only if the land is cultivated and can be harvested by more than 1:5 can the land be allowed to be occupied. In accordance with the provisions of the county laws of the Republic, the trade circle centered on the county includes the longest distance of the grain and iron trade, that is, the natural area of the county, except for the county area that has been reclassified by the council due to the problem of domestic stability.
Therefore, according to the concept extended by the land law of the Republic, any piece of terra nullius that is not the inherent territory of the country must meet at least one of the following conditions in order to be counted as the territory of the country.
That is, it is necessary to have more than 1,000 of its own people in this place. Including naturalized Aboriginal peoples. The concept of naturalization is the ability to speak the language of one's own country and identify with one's existence. The land reclaimed and inhabited by the 1,000 of his own people is within the boundaries of his own territory.
This is something that the Dutch cannot accept in any way.
The population of the Netherlands together is only a few hundred thousand, and they have no concept of such a thing as the motherland, and if it were not for the Spaniards, several provinces and even the villages and towns below would have been independent long ago.
The republic on the other side is said to have a population of more than 30 million, and it is not a problem to come up with 1,000 people out of this 30 million people. But for the Netherlands, taking out a thousand people to occupy it is undoubtedly a condition that cannot be accepted at all.
Chen Jian insisted that less than 1,000 people could only be regarded as a trading post, and that there was only the right to trade, and there was no meaning of occupation. And a thousand men can establish a town, and all trade will necessarily take place around it, and the possession of a town is regarded as the land within the trade area of that town.
In fact, Chen Jian could not easily find a place for thousands of people to settle, so his own purpose was still bargaining, mainly to formulate a rudimentary form of international regulations acceptable to at least Britain, France, the Netherlands, the Republic, and Denmark in the north.
The aim is to isolate Spain, if they do not participate. But in the face of such a siege and the fact that they were about to go bankrupt, they had to accept it.
The countries that Mr. Chen hopes to accept have a common characteristic.
They, including themselves, missed the first wave of the Great Voyage, so they unanimously opposed the rule that "whoever finds it belongs to whoever does not need to land on the island".
But again, these countries have caught up with the second wave, so what can be accepted together is theoretical control, not actual control.
These concepts are only considered to be possession by the third wave of countries that wake up and catch up with the last ones, as a challenge to the old colonial powers.
When the fourth wave wakes up...... It was already time for the old colonial system to collapse.
The things that Chen Jian said at this time were obviously inclined to practical control rather than theoretical control, so when he proposed it, he knew that the other party could not accept it.
But the problem now is that the Dutch, judging by such things as muskets, ingots, telescopes, etc., is a country no less large than Spain, or even more powerful, with a strong desire to sail.
The first captain to actually complete the circumnavigation of the globe was the great pirate Drake, and Magellan died in the Philippines, not the first. The first captain to complete a circumnavigation of the globe had only been dead of illness for ten years.
The Dutch had only completed a circumnavigation of the world now, and the Republic was not too late to circumnavigate the globe at this time, so it seemed a little aggressive at sea.
Exports can only be controlled by more than 1,000 people, and such a population requirement is absolutely unacceptable to the Netherlands.
These are the trade issues that Indian companies in the Netherlands are most concerned about, and they are closely related to trade issues.
The Dutch held on to Chen Jian's request and resolutely disagreed.
Related to this question is the question of what a "Borderlands" is.
Obviously, this still has to rely on fists, but at this time the gap between the East and the West is not too big, and the navigation technology and technological revolution in navigation technology have not yet begun.
The Spaniards were lucky enough to meet a group of Stone Age people who caught up with their civil strife, so the Spanish ways were not at all suitable for Asia at this time.
Even in India, it is necessary for the directors of companies or the governor to call themselves faithful servants in a very humble tone.
Of course, this trend will be very different in a few decades.
In the Americas, Chen Jian was not ready to let these people set foot in it at all, and with such a large country, the Dutch also knew that it could not be like the Indians in South America, and a huge republic with a population of 30 million people was there, even if there was land, it was basically robbed.
So the focus of the problem is still in Asia, especially in the Spice Islands generation.
In China, the Dutch had just been beaten back, and three years ago in Macau. Therefore, the treaty is still valid, at least not qualified to sign an unequal treaty.
But in the Spice Islands, if the unequal treaties are to be valid, the Netherlands urgently needs the Republic behind Jian Chen to recognize the validity of those treaties.
Not against the Republic, but against the British Indian company.
The Dutch felt that Chen Jian had a faint meaning, and the Republic did not care much about the spice trade in the matter of Asian trade. If there is no desire, it is rigid. I don't stay here, I go to England.
British Indian companies are already questioning the rationale of these Dutch treaties.
The most ridiculous thing is that Chen Jian heard from these Dutch Indian businessmen that the British used a reason that Chen Jian did not believe in, but actually used by the British: they doubted whether the Dutch had forced those countries to sign treaties by force, and considered such treaties to be unreasonable......