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Perhaps because the atmosphere was not enough to add fuel to the fire, Wallace added, "And when I was at the airport, I was shamelessly treated by KGB agents and brutally searched my body, is this how you treat those defenders of freedom and equality?" Or is it that the pen in my hand will endanger your personal safety? ”

Yanayev smiled and pressed his hand, motioning for Wallace to calm down a little, and waited for the sharp-tongued reporter to calm down a little before he said slowly, "Okay, okay, don't worry, my journalist friend." Let's solve them one by one. ”

Yanayev raised his first finger and said, "First of all, about the innocent people in the August 19 incident, you said that our soldiers turned their guns on these freedom-loving people. But when these people are burning, smashing, and robbing the people's property, do you turn a blind eye? And if they are really freedom-loving people, then who is responsible for the gunshot wound in my shoulder? Is it possible to ignore the law in the name of freedom, perhaps the French revolutionary Madame Roland was right when she said one thing, 'Freedom, how many people have done evil things by your command'. When you rebelled in 1863 in New York, the police were never soft-hearted in their repression. Why did it become a double standard in the USSR, your repression is the victory of the rule of law. How about our discipline becoming a symbol of dictatorship? ”

Wallace was speechless for a moment, he did not expect that Yanayev knew more about American history, political events, and current affairs than he did. But Yanayev did not stop at the point, but took a sip of tea and continued to pursue with a raised eyebrow, "I would like to know what the correct statement is about Stalinist purges, if the Wallace reporter wishes, we can provide a list of all the incriminating evidence, including the specific amount of money that each political prisoner embezzled and bribed people's property, some of which are enough to constitute the death penalty, and we treat the corrupt person by thunder means to make him submit." ”

Wallace gritted his teeth and continued to ask, "But the material in my hand indicates that the officials who committed suicide are all enlightened people who are biased towards democratic reform, does this mean that the trial between the enlightened and the conservative has been treated unfairly." ”

"There is no such thing at all, and both enlightened and conservative people have to pay the price for their actions." Yanayev pointed out the error in Wallace's ridiculous statement, "However, I clearly remember that there was a clear political contribution in the US presidential election, and I was surprised why democracies can use the rule of law to enrich themselves almost in broad daylight." Isn't this a disguised encouragement of corruption? Could it be that those officials who aspire to democratic, liberal reform, actually want to be corrupt bureaucrats like your state officials? ”

Wallace wanted to continue, but was interrupted by Yanayev, who was talking, "Can I make such an inference, in fact, these democratic reformers yearn for an oligarchy without the laws of the country, so that he can transform himself and control the whole country with corrupt money." Turning into a so-called democracy? If your democracy is based on a small number of people controlling the interests of the vast majority, then I will be the first to refuse to accept it. ”

"Now let's talk about Solzhenitsyn, who is known as the conscience of Soviet Russia, and who you supposedly want to prop up as a propaganda weapon against the Soviet dictatorship. But it's a shame that Solzhenitsyn doesn't like communism as much as you liberalism, he calls American music terrible noise, oh yes, and he says you America is vulgar materialism. ”

Yanayev looked at Wallace's somewhat embarrassed expression with satisfaction, he really didn't expect that he could have a war of words with the most venomous reporter in the West nine years in advance, and continued with ease, "Do you know what he likes the most?" Like Tsarist Russia, the restoration of the dominance of Orthodox Christianity in the state ideology, the old and young remnants of the former dynasties, I generally call him 'Russian Emperor', meaning supporters of Russian Tsarism, people who are born without a straight backbone. ”

"So President Yanayev admitted that you suppressed religious freedom in the Soviet Union? And the freedom and equality of peoples? Just like you would with the member countries. Wallace, who sensed a flaw in Yanaev's words, hurriedly fought back verbally. One of the factors that has always been criticized for the religious policy of the Soviet Union is that it is very easy for the West to use as a weapon to infiltrate the regime.

According to Yanayev's previous words, there are always Diao people who want to harm me.

Both Surkov and Plekhanov watched nervously at this brilliant debate, and President Yanayev always made something unexpected and successful. Although others strongly opposed this debate, believing that it would affect the international image of the Soviet Union, Yazov and Pavlov even threatened that it was a conspiracy of the West, but our president was unprepared to join in. Only Surkov, as always, believed that the president could pull off a beautiful counterattack.

"President Yanayev, how would you answer?" Surkov clenched his arms, fearing that the president would expose a flaw in the issue, which would cause the filming to spiral out of control.

However, Wallace still didn't see the surprised expression that the other party expected, Yanayev's eyes seemed to see through all of Wallace's hole cards, he shook his head with a smile, and said a word in Russian English, NATIVE. Then began his own eloquent eloquence, "Since you have spoken of religious freedom, then I can tell you that it is the unique cultural tradition of the Soviet Union, inherited from the culture and civilization of the Eastern Roman Empire, and not the hypocritical theocracy of your ancestors over the world when they fought the Crusades, religious wars in Europe and used the Inquisition to massacre heretics. I suggest you go to all kinds of religious sites in the USSR, in Leningrad, in Sverdlovsk, there are countless churches, and we have never had an incident of repression of Orthodox Christians. ”

"If we were suppressing religious freedom, as you said, there wouldn't be so many people there, and even buildings should have been demolished. But all these places are listed as key protection units, and in addition to the money donated by Orthodox believers to repair those churches, the government also allocates funds every year to protect them, are we stupid enough to spend money to protect what we want to suppress? Of course, during the time of Stalin and Khrushchev, we went some astray, but you should see that we have worked on religious issues over the years. It is a very wrong perception to just focus on a person's past deeds and not look at his current achievements. ”

Yanayev blamed the two leaders before him for all the blame, and wiped out the excuse for his religious repression.

"Shall I talk about the United States again? Do you mind, reporter Wallace. After all, what I said may have been a bit sharp. Yanayev was in complete control of the interview, as if Wallace were the leader of the interview.

"I don't care at all, in fact, as long as President Yanayev is right, I will not interrupt you." Wallace motioned for the other to speak freely.

"We recognize that the United States is qualified to be a pioneer in building a modern nation, that the American people are a great people, and that hardworking and kind people have built a great nation and provided valuable experience for human development," Yanayev said. Despite this, the United States does not have the right to teach other countries a lesson, especially by blaming others for their internal affairs. It's not just that this creates a rebellious mentality, but more importantly, God didn't give you this power, not to mention that the Soviet Union was not an appendage of the United States. We have the right to go our own way, to go our own way, to go our own way, and maybe we will make a lot of mistakes, but it is also the right of God to make mistakes. ”

"Many Americans, who like to teach the Soviet system, forget the history of the United States. As a modern country, the Soviet Union has only 74 years of history since its founding, while the United States has a history of more than 200 years. Jefferson, the founding father of the United States, wrote in the Declaration of Independence that all men are created equal, but unfortunately he himself was a slave for life. He thinks very clearly about ideals and reality. Like you, we don't think he's a hypocrite. The founding constitution of the United States did not have a human rights clause at all, why? Because America's founding fathers were realists, they put the unity and stability of the country first. Before the Civil War, Lincoln tried to use the preservation of slavery as a bargaining chip in exchange for the cancellation of independence in the South and the preservation of national unity. It took more than 100 years for the United States to gain the right to vote, and 190 years later, in the 60s of the 20th century, when racial segregation began. ”

"So is it the right choice for His Excellency Wallace to flaunt American democracy and attack Soviet politics?" Yanayev's last sentence was so powerful that Wallace couldn't refute it.