Ten days later, the Italians finally broke their silence, and the second negotiation between Beiyang and the Italian side continued at the country house in Brin.

"Mr. Xu, you know that if this plan is to be carried forward, both sides must be profitable, and only when we have obtained enough benefits can we persuade the Congress and the King to pass this plan." Brin said. []

"Italy's military power should not appear in the Far East, but in the Mediterranean, Africa and the Middle East. In the Far East, Italy needed a trusted ally to guarantee its interests. Even if Britain is as powerful as Britain, doesn't it still need to choose one of the Qing Dynasty or Japan in the Far East as a force to contain Russia? ”。 Xu Jie said.

"What you say makes a lot of sense, why do we want to help the Qing Dynasty instead of Japan?" Bragali said with interest.

"Do you think Japan will choose Britain or Italy?" A mocking smile rose at the corner of Xu Jie's mouth. "Your Excellency is a very good strategic analyst...... But you don't understand the Japanese nation, this nation is not trustworthy at all, and in their eyes, any treaties and agreements can be torn up at any time. ”

"There are only eternal interests between nations, no eternal friends, and there is never an alliance that will not end or a treaty that will not be torn up." Bragali sneered..........

"But there are alliances between countries, and there is stability in alliances or treaties, and if Italy wants to choose a capricious country without any guarantees, Japan is a very good choice. And now that Japan has begun to think about taking out loans from Russia, I think that in the near future, relations between Britain and Japan will deteriorate, and when the time comes, will Italy want to offend Britain and help Japan? I'd love to know the answer to this. Xu Jie said with a smile.

"Uh, this." Bragali was speechless for a while, no matter how strong Russia was, it was directly separated from Italy by the mighty Germany and Austria-Hungary, while the British Mediterranean fleet was stationed not far from his own doorstep. It's clear which is more important.

"You're right. Such alliances or treaties can only be sustained if there is no conflict of interest between countries and there is a need for cooperation. From a geopolitical point of view, Italy and the Qing Dynasty are thousands of miles apart, and the two sides will basically not have a direct conflict, while the Qing Dynasty has a huge market, Italy has the technology that the Qing Dynasty needs, and Britain and France have better technology, but in various considerations, they will restrict what they export. Italy, on the other hand, has no worries in this regard. After all, the Qing State could not threaten the fundamental interests of the Kingdom of Italy. Xu Jie said..........

"Your theory is good, keep going, we need substance." Bragali said quietly.

"Italy needs enough money to build its own country." Xu Jie said in a different tone. It's like chatting with an old friend you've been missing for a long time.

"Beiyang probably doesn't even have the money to give full combat power to the six warships ordered from Italy. I wonder how Italy gets money from the North Seas. Bragali smirked.

"The center has no money, but it does not mean that the people have no money, and it does not mean that those Chinese businessmen who have opened mines and factories in various parts of Beiyang have no money. As long as Beiyang gives some preferential treatment when importing Italian industrial products, I think that adding an advantage will make a considerable number of people who are ready to invest in industry choose Italian products. Xu Jie said with a smile.

"That's a good idea. But that's not enough. Bragali pouted.

"I wonder what Your Excellency thinks of war? In fact, war can make money. Once a war starts, whether it is armament, food, or transportation, it needs money. And once the war starts, the Qing center will pay for the war, and then we can open the door to Italian merchants, provided that these products are really good enough. If Beiyang can win the war, I think Lord Li will agree to take a part of the war reparations as payment. Xu Jie played his hole cards. …………。

"I wonder what the approximate percentage is?" Bragali asked, like a hungry wolf seeing fresh meat.

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"At least 30%." Bragary didn't buy it.

"This is impossible, Beiyang also needs this money to pay off debts, you should know that Beiyang has mortgaged almost all of its properties for this war. If it can't make a profit, Beiyang is a dead end. Xu Jie retorted.

"I think this issue is negotiable, I want to know more, what does the North Sea need, what can the Italian Navy get from the North Ocean?" Bryn interrupted, he really didn't bother to mix with this almost intertwined problem of proportions, and he wanted to know what the Italian navy could gain from it.

"In addition to 3 armored cruisers of the Garibaldi type and 3 light armored cruisers of the ** type, as well as the necessary accessories...... One repair ship is also needed to ensure that the battleship can be quickly put into battle after a short rest after returning home, and a dry dock and related machinery and equipment can be built in Weihai to repair 15,000-ton warships. More than 5 minelayers and minesweepers. At the same time, there is also the expansion of the two major military ports of Lushun and Weihai, in which the channel of Lushun needs to be widened, and the port equipment also needs to be added to increase the throughput. Xu Jie said as he handed a detailed list to Brin. I hope the Kingdom of Italy can give a friendly price. ”。 …。

"And what does the Italian Navy get?" Brin asked, putting down the list.

"A modification of the Garibaldi armored cruiser, as well as a new 14,000-ton battleship of the first rank. New 3-pack turret, new armor-piercing shells. Xu Jie replied.

"And what does the Italian Army get?" Bragali asked.

"New guns and mortars, as well as new equipment and food. Don't you think it's too procrastinating and inefficient to use the same equipment of the Italian Army in the heat of Africa? What Italy needed was an efficient, lean and responsive colonial garrison, with new machine guns and mortars that could give a small force terrifying firepower, and efficient individual equipment and food to keep the troops capable. Xu Jie said.

"Well, not bad idea, the more the Italian army is equipped, the more money Mr. Xu will make." Bragary was quite satisfied with Xu Jie's answer, after all, since the unification of the Italian Army, the combat strength is quite average. It was not proportional to the naval strength of the Kingdom of Italy, and the colonies needed an army to occupy and maintain!

"Can I understand that the Beiyang side will exchange favorable terms of trade, a certain amount of war reparations, and some new technologies and designs in exchange for the support of the Kingdom of Italy for the Beiyang? Bragali said..........

"It can be considered that this is our final bottom line, and if your government agrees, I hope to sign the agreement as soon as possible, Li Zhongtang has just sent a telegram that if the negotiations in Italy do not go well, the German representative will soon come to Rome." After Xu Jie finished speaking, he handed over an agreement.

"We'll get back to you as soon as possible." Brin took the agreement and said.

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