A curious brilliance flashed in Qiongniang's eyes.

The Qi slogan launched by Zhao Da and Zhao Pu cannot be said to be a fool, this is the progress of the ruler's self-understanding. Of course, it's just a slogan, and it's impossible to do it in practice. So Zhu Yuanzhang only did not say anything, punished corrupt officials, and killed them in batches.

The two have a slight misunderstanding, that is, they are slightly one-sided. What the slogan has to be shouted, it must actually be done.

Only by controlling the widening of the disparity in all aspects of public opinion and means can we further achieve the so-called Qi people. But that's still a dream, and in reality, people can't be equal.

For example, Xue Xiang, many people attacked Xue Xiang for being gracious, failing to pass the imperial examination, "coming from a wrong background", and must be a traitorous villain.

Another example is Fan Chunren, he was born and grew up with a golden key, this gold does not refer to material, but to his huge fame. Therefore, some of the things Fan Chunren did when he was a child were magnified and praised, and some were even recorded in the annals of history.

"Qiongniang, Fan Yaofu has such a big reputation, right?"

"yes."

"Alright, when he comes, I'll give you to him."

Qiong Niang was so frightened that her face was pale, but when she saw Wang Ju's strange smile, she immediately knew that Wang Ju was joking, so she stroked her chest and said: "The slave family just admires his clear name, why do the officials make fun of me." ”

"Yes, don't be a slave for a while, and a concubine for a while."

"Ju'er, you talk." Zhang Zaidao.

"Teacher, don't leave, let's see what he has to say."

Fan Chunren was brought in, he couldn't laugh or cry, at least the two of them were several levels apart in official ranks. The result comes on its own. Not even a single person to greet him.

"Sit." Wang Ju said.

Zhang Zai also frowned. Said: "Ju'er ......"

"Teacher, do you want me to be a flatterer?"

"Two of you, don't fight, I've seen Zhang Zihou."

"I've seen Yaofugong." Zhang Zaidao.

"Say, Fan Gong, what are you doing here?" Wang Ju said on the side.

Fan Chunren thought to himself, whoever said that this kid has a good temper, I will be anxious with him in the future. No wonder Cheng Hao was humiliated.

Concubine Er was a little anxious to stand on the side, she had been in the capital for more than ten days, and she heard that some big people in the capital, this Fan Chunren was not the highest group of officials, but in terms of influence, he could rank in the top 30!

The husband did too much rudeness.

However, Fan Chunren didn't take it seriously, a gentleman, just bully him, even if he poured tea on his head, as long as he said a reason, Fan Chunren might not be angry. Therefore, Fan Chunren said with a wry smile: "After the court meeting, the court issued an edict to me. Transfer me to Ha Chung Fu. ”

"Hezhong Mansion is good, Sima Qian said that Hezhong is the center of the world, there are mountains and waters, is Fan Gong wronged when he is transferred to the past?" Wang Ju pretended to be stupid and asked madly.

With Fan Chunren's grade, it is not considered to be a condescending person to go out to Hezhong Mansion.

This is where Wang Ju despises Wang Anshi, suppress it, simply suppress it harder, so that it is not painful, can the opponent be afraid?

"Zi'an, you misinterpreted what I meant."

"Yes, what Fan Gong means is that once you leave the court, the traitors will succeed, or that the Song Dynasty will not be able to turn around if you leave you?"

It's too bad.

Qiongniang almost got happy.

"Qiongniang, don't laugh, many people actually think that without him, or them, the Song Dynasty will not be able to turn around."

"Whoa." Qiong Niang gave a salute and stood respectfully to the side, but the corners of her mouth continued to be full of smiles.

Fan Chunren choked to death, how can he continue to talk about it like this?

Zhang Zai's eyebrows jumped, it seemed that Wang Ju was messing around, but it was really not nonsense. Wang Ju also talked to Zhang Zai about this problem before, you can't beat all the scholars to death with a stick, in terms of selfishness, everyone has selfishness, but when the public heart and selfishness collide, see how much this selfishness can give to the public heart.

The second is one thing that scholars often use to discuss, a sentence that Zhao Pu and Zhao Kuangyin said when they debated, the world is big, and the truth is the greatest. However, what is the truth, after the truth becomes the biggest, it is not necessarily the biggest truth, but the world is big, not as big as Lao Tzu, what Lao Tzu said is the truth.

Therefore, he turned around on the side: "Yaofu Gong, the meaning of the disciple is that sometimes when thinking about problems, you have to listen to the opinions of others, and you have to think about it from the other party's point of view. ”

"Zihou, I'm here for this matter, you also went to the early dynasty, and I also heard Lu Huiqing's recital, as soon as the Qingmiao Law was opened, there will be no peace in the world from now on."

"Having said that, but if Yao Fugong finds us, what are we capable of?"

"Zihou, you don't have the ability, but your protégé does. There are only two ministers who value him the most in His Majesty's heart, one is Wang Jiefu, and the other is your protégé. I don't talk about the ordnance superintendent, I only talk about the Qingmiao Law, Zi'an, you said that you are willing to go for the sake of the country and the people. So did the Seedlings Law really fall on deaf ears? ”

"Fan Gong, to be honest, maybe you think in your heart that you have left the court, and you are not very happy. However, if it was me, I didn't want any Hezhong Mansion, it was to make a small state and let me be the governor, and I was happy. Wang Ju said.

Fan Chunren's question cannot be answered directly.

Is the Seedlings Method really right?

Besides, there are a lot of laws behind the Qingmiao Law, the exemption law is a little better, and the city law behind it, the exemption law, the horse protection law, and the armor protection law......

is to make up for the black hole of the country, and it is indeed overdone.

However, this time Fan Chunren came to speak "with a better attitude", Wang Ju's tone also eased, and said: "Fan Gong, I just want to ask you a few questions, when Zhenzong was the world's cultivated land, there were more than 5 million hectares of cultivated land, and now the people are fighting with the mountains, the sea, the river, and the lake for arable land, which has never been done since ancient times, but how many hectares of cultivated land are on the account book of the household department?" ”

"During the Northern and Southern Dynasties, the officials of the Northern Wei Dynasty did not have a salary, and after the Tang Dynasty, the income became heavier and heavier, how many officials in the world today have more than 10,000 yuan in benefits, and how many people do these officials have to support?"

"Everyone is looking for a way to benefit the country and the people, and in the past, the country's income was small, and they couldn't think of buying this road. In my dynasty, the income of the state increased, and it included your father. Both support buy and. Not bad. If peace can really be bought. It's a good deal for money, but ask yourself, can you buy real peace with money? Or, with the addition of double the age of the coin, the Western Xia and the Liao Kingdom will not be in danger? So how did the Southern Tang Dynasty perish? ”

"Du Zimei is just a small official, most of the time she is bumpy and displaced, and she has no fixed place. On talent, Fan Gong. You are far inferior to him, he shouted out that Zhumen's wine and meat stink, and the road is frozen to death, you don't have to worry about your family will have the fate of Du Zimei's family, but how many frozen bones are there in this world? ”

Fan Chunren said: "Then we must be more benevolent to the people." ”

"I believe that you have this thought, but the law remains the same, the current trend of the court is to love the people, is it possible that the powerful are the people, and the people are pigs and dogs?"

"Wang Zian. Do you say that the Seedlings Law is a policy of benevolence and love for the people? ”

"I didn't say that Wang Jiefu was making an attempt. Fan Gong. You're wearing a lot of clothes today, right? ”

"What?"

"It's cold, you have to add clothes. This is simple, put it on the country, it's not so simple, I said Jiefu Gong's attempt, that's the truth, why not wait for him to do it? ”

"Seedlings ......"

Wang Ju immediately interrupted him: "With the implementation of the Qingmiao Law, Jiefu Gong wants to benefit the people, and the second is to benefit the country. So I don't approve of it either, but what you mean by immobility, it's this immobility, the country's debt, you know? At this time, the whole country is like boiling water, and it is not good to cure without the medicine of tigers and wolves...... So I'm in a dilemma now, I haven't thought about it, how to persuade His Majesty? In other words, have you figured out how to solve these ills of the country one by one? If Fan Gong thinks about it, I might as well find a way to present it to the official family! ”

"The world is like boiled water, and it is even more prudent to prescribe medicine."

"I don't know how much I ow, even if there are hundreds of millions, His Majesty has already begun to cut grace, soldiers, and expenses, as long as His Majesty does not say anything, he can save 10 million a year, and he can repay it in ten years."

"Zi'an, since you know that Jiefu's approach is wrong, why don't you admonish now. In this way, where did you come from the great Shun City? It's better to plan for a rainy day, not to make amends! ”

…………

The two argued for a long time.

Fan Chunren said with a dry mouth, and Wang Ju also spoke with a frizzy mouth.

There's no way to talk about it, Wang Ju thought to himself.

In fact, the key to the problem is still four words: take history as a mirror! The income of the Han and Tang dynasties was far less than that of the Song Dynasty, so there was no choice but to fight. But when did the Western Han defeat the Xiongnu, and the Eastern Han Dynasty had the harm of Xirong. The Tang Dynasty defeated the Eastern and Western Turks, and there were also the Later Turks, Tieler, Tibetans, Uighurs, and Khitans. Like weeds, wildfires burn inexhaustibly, and spring breezes blow and regenerate. Especially in the Tang Dynasty, because of the reopening of the border, it did not give the military generals heavy power, so there was the Anshi Rebellion.

Therefore, the alliance of the Yuan Dynasty gave a new model to the scholars of the Song Dynasty.

The essence is what Fan Chunren called the two words "rough tools".

Anyway, the Song Dynasty has money, and if you use some money to buy security, you can have both, and the Song Dynasty will not perish.

So in the Southern Song Dynasty, this kind of thinking was still the same, one was to buy An, and the other was "rough tools". Or that Zhao Ji didn't want to open the border and didn't want to take back the sixteen states of Youyun, so the Liao State blocked the Jurchens from going south, and the Northern Song Dynasty could perish?

Fell into the pit again.

In fact, it does have some headaches, and it cannot be said that most scholars and doctors do not think correctly, and how to eradicate the nomads is indeed too difficult.

The same is true for internal governance, population expansion and annexation pressure, many people have also seen it, but the national problem is mainly based on tranquility, once there is a split, collapse from the inside, it is even more severe than the danger of external invasion, after all, it is a big country, so many places. There are too many contradictions. Now that the internal governance of the Song Dynasty is still peaceful, why should there be internal turmoil?

Fell into the pit again.

Wang Ju couldn't help it, patted Fan Chunren on the shoulder and said: "Your Majesty wants to change the law, and the main person in charge of changing the law is Jiefu Gong, old Fan ......."

An old fan, Fan Chunren was like a thunderbolt, and the corners of his mouth kept twitching.

Of course, this also shows the nature of the argument between the two, and Sima Guang's argument is not good, there are too many selfishness, even if it is written by Lu Gong, it is also very selfish. But Fan Chunren is not selfish, and what he can't get around is that hurdle, but this hurdle is indeed difficult for ordinary people to bypass.

So this debate is more open-minded.

"Old Fan, look, now I can't convince you, and you can't convince me. How do you convince me to be a grandfather? So, I'll make a picture. ”

"Painting?"

"Draw a flower, Fan, what flower do you want to draw?"

A few old fans made Fan Chunren immortal want to die, and he had no choice but to say: "Chrysanthemum." ”

"Old Fan, you are so murderous."

"Picking chrysanthemums under the east fence, leisurely seeing Nanshan, what kind of chrysanthemums are here?"

"In this way, Lao Fan has the intention of retreating."

"You ......"

Wang Ju is really painting while he is miscellaneous.

"What kind of flower is this?"

Wang Ju's painting skills...... Qiongniang turned her head, embarrassed to look at it any longer, but what made him scratch, half a big flower gradually took shape, but it was definitely not a chrysanthemum, what kind of flower it was. This graffiti is so ordinary, Fan Chunren can't even see it.

"I'm painting peonies."

"This is a peony?" "Lao Fan" looked at this graffiti, and it was really about to fall. (To be continued......)