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Rong Hong didn't think much about Yang Rui's rhetorical question, and only said: "The current Chinese Manchus are in power, and they are often bullied by foreign countries, if it is true that after the success of the revolution, we must not go back to the old path of the Manchus." As for the national system, if the Manchus are overthrown, and there is no emperor in the world, then a democratic republic will be the best choice." Although this statement has the meaning of advocating American democracy, in China without an emperor, China does only have a democratic republic to choose from.

Yang Rui didn't want to tell him about the descendants of the former Ming Dynasty, even if it was going to come out sooner or later, after all, it was just a one-sided acquaintance, China's modern revolutionary history is a history of killing, today's allies are tomorrow's enemies, Yang Rui had to be on guard, he had to say cryptically: "What Mr. said is very reasonable, but I am afraid that when the Manchus step down, the situation will be weird, and people from all walks of life will have the heart to chase the deer." Looking at the history of China, every time a dynasty rises and falls, wars and chaos will last for decades, and the world can be stable. After the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom, the power of governors in various places became greater and greater, and there was a trend of secession, and I was afraid that it would be similar to the end of the Sui Dynasty at that time. China has been feudal for 2,000 years, and there are many people who want to be emperors. ”

Although Rong Hong grew up in the United States, Sui Mo still knew about it, and knew that what Yang Rui said was reasonable, but he didn't understand what he meant, and asked, "Do you want to be the emperor?" ”

Yang Rui laughed, "How is this possible, how tiring it is to be an emperor." If I really want to be the emperor, I might as well come to the United States to do business with my husband. ”

Rong Hong also laughed, he was just a test just now. Yang Rui's reaction made him convinced that Yang Rui really didn't want to be the emperor. "Then how can no one in the world dare to be the emperor again?"

Yang Rui replied: "Seize the army and reform society." ”

Rong Hong said: "To seize the army, do you have to suppress people with force?" ”

Yang Rui smiled: "If someone wants to be the emperor, then the army is needed at this time." ”

Rong Hong was shocked and asked, "What if you want to do it?" ”

Yang Rui smiled, "There is this possibility, but according to the historical and social exhibition, the emperor will soon be abandoned by the world, and the final liberation of the individual is a torrent of history that cannot be stopped." If we really become emperors, we will eventually be overthrown by the world. The barrel of a gun can win the world, but in the long run, it can't hold the world."

Rong Hong nodded, and then asked: "I actually want to figure out the guò army to move the revolution, what kind of country is China after the success of the revolution?" ”

Yang Rui said: "We have not given much thought to the future national system, the army is only the key to the success of the revolution, and it is also the guarantee to protect China from being humiliated by foreign enemies." Of course, what kind of state system China implements should be based on the will of the people themselves, and if the people choose a republic, then we will implement a republic, and we are afraid that the republic is not good; If the people choose the imperial system, then we will implement the imperial system, even if the imperial system is not good......"

When Rong Hong heard this, he smiled very gratefully, and his good impression of Yang Rui became more and more. Generally speaking, the leaders of the revolution have a kind of self-sacrificing boldness, believing that they alone are heroes, and that no one but themselves can save all living beings. But none of this can be seen in Yang Rui, who is not like a general, but like an editor of the New York Times, although he is leading the revolution, he puts himself outside the revolution and treats the revolution calmly.

“…… But the United States has the situation of the United States, China has the reality of China, at first glance, the Chinese people are wise and suddenly implement democracy, then such a democracy is actually a false democracy, completely manipulated by the real power faction in various places, from the first to the main people there is an transition, there is no forty years, this transition can not be completed. ”

After Yang Rui finished speaking, Rong Hong was a little puzzled by his forty-year statement, and asked, "Why forty years?" Can't it be shorter? ”

In fact, Yang Rui felt that forty years was too short, and it was best to be fifty years. When he asked, he said: "The premise of democracy is that the majority of the people must participate, but there are too few people in China who can read and understand, so if you want democracy, then education must keep up." If the people are elected, they will be counted as voters over the age of 18, but people between the ages of 18 and 30 will inevitably be young and vigorous, and they will be easily agitated, and their ideas may not be comprehensive, and if there are too few people over the age of 30, then the results of democracy can be imagined......

In all fairness, Rong Hong still agrees with this, he only got married at the age of forty-eight, and although his two sons are obedient, they still have the impulse of young people. He only sighed: "Forty years is too long." Some people may not be able to see that day. ”

Yang Rui knows the thoughts of those people, this is like Zhang Zhidong has to build an iron factory in Hanyang regardless of the cost, hoping to see the chimney in Wuchang, strong people like to see the results immediately when they do things, this is a sense of accomplishment that can be intoxicating. Like Zhang Zhidong, who hoped to open the door and see the chimney smoking, revolutionaries like Sun Zhongshan also had to see the republican system in their own hands, so he said to Yan Fu, who advocated gradual reform, "The river is clear, how long is the life expectancy?" The words. Perhaps, it's not that the reform won't work, but that he can't wait.

Yang Rui said with a smile: "Sir, the revolution is for future generations to no longer suffer from slavery, and our generation is destined to be sacrificed, even in obscurity. Our generation can't see it, there is nothing to regret, I'm afraid that future generations won't see it, that is a regret for the ages. ”

Rong Hong was already in his prime, and he didn't plan to see that day. Seeing that Yang Rui did not oppose the republic, he said: "Among the anti-Qing forces now, in addition to the Jingcheng Revival Association, there are two other forces, one is Kangliang's Royalist Association, which has a great influence overseas, has many members, and has strong financial resources. At present, most of the cities in the United States with Chinese have set up Loyalist branches, and they have trained troops in Los Angeles, California; The other is the Xingzhonghui, which is now led by Sun Wen and has been influential in South China and Nanyang. Now the influence of the Revival Society is mainly domestic, and if it can unite with them, then the revolution will soon be realized. ”

Seeing Rong Hong mention Kang Liang, Sun Zhongshan and Yang Rui felt a headache, he couldn't tell him that Kang Liang was a moth, and he didn't achieve anything except taking millions of donations from overseas Chinese. Yang Rui thought for a while and said: "Kang Liang advocates royalism, not anti-Qing, what they want is nothing more than Guangxu to be in power again." If it unites with Kang Liang, then China is bound to revolutionize twice, one is the life of Ge Cixi, and the other is the life of Ge Guangxu. As for Sun Wen, I also know a thing or two about his ideas from the Tokyo branch of the Renaissance Society, but I find it difficult to agree with his idea of advocating a republic regardless of the national conditions, and the Renaissance Society believes that the system of the country chosen by China is the freedom of the people and cannot be imposed by anyone. ”

Kang Liang's ideas and habits Rong Hong was very enlightened when he was in the self-reliant army, and in the year of Gengzi, if Kang Youwei hadn't remitted the military funds for a long time, Tang Caichang would not have been defeated so quickly. As for the Xingzhong Society, since the failure of the Ming Shuntian Uprising at the end of last year, he and one of the leaders of the Xingzhong Society, Xie Jintai, have cut off contact, and now only Sun Wen is still in Japan among the big leaders of the Xingzhong Society, although this person was previously said by everyone to be a high-roller of the Hui Party, but since he met him by chance on the ship that year, Rong Hong felt that his fellow countryman was quite "broad and honest", and had Washington's ambitions, so he encouraged him a lot. Now seeing that Yang Rui is also a sincere revolutionary person, he wants to promote the alliance between the two sides and overthrow the Manchu Qing as much as possible, but after seeing that Yang Rui did not think about it, he vetoed it and was disappointed.

He said bitterly: "It is done, the revolution begins, and the exhibition should be the first." Join forces with other forces to overthrow the Manchus, and success is just around the corner. This is like opening a company, if you don't have enough capital, then you take out a loan, so that the company can start. ”

Although it was very immoral to refute an old man in his seventies, the blood in Yang Rui's heart made him forget the principles of marketing, and he still told the truth, but he lowered his voice very low and his voice became slower: "Sir, let's not talk about the question of whether the proposition is the same, I have heard a saying that it is better to have an opponent like a god than a comrade-in-arms like a pig." If Kang Liang hadn't hesitated to wait and see the Self-Reliance Army at the beginning, then the result would not have been like this, right? Let's talk about Sun Wen Huizhou, if it is not some party that is entangled, but a well-trained army, even if the army is small, then the outcome will be very different, right? Kang Liang was entangled in Guangxu's courtesy, and Sun Wen forced American democracy, but in fact, neither of them was good at armed revolution, nor did they understand how China should really reform. Instead of speeding up the process, joining forces with them will delay it, so instead of finding a piece of paper full of words and rewriting it, it is better to find a piece of paper that has not been written......"

As soon as Yang Rui finished speaking, the atmosphere was a little cold, Rong Hong was silent for a while, in fact, after returning to the United States, he also thought about the earlier self-reliance army in the dead of night, indeed just like Yang Rui said, if Kang Liang did not hesitate at that time, then it is not known what the original outcome would be; As for Sun Wen, let's not talk about the matter of Huizhou, but only say that last year's matter of the Ming Shuntian Kingdom failed because of lax secrecy. From this point of view, it is really difficult to achieve the party. But he was afraid that Yang Rui would have prejudices against Sun Wen before he saw the real person, so he said: "It's done, Kang Liang, we won't say it, but I still hope you can meet this Sun Wen, maybe you can become good friends." ”

Yang Rui smiled bitterly in his heart, but he had no choice but to say: "Okay, as long as there is fate, I think we will meet." ”

Regardless of Yang Rui's reluctance, Rong Hong skipped this section and asked, "What is the main thing to do in the United States this time?" ”

After going around for most of the day, this topic finally came to the point, Yang Rui said: "This time I came to the United States, mainly to ask Mr. Rong for help. ”

Rong Hong said with a smile: "Please say that as long as I can help, I will do my best to help." ”

Before saying the request, Yang Rui was very hesitant, as long as he opened his mouth, many secrets of the Revival Society would be tantamount to telling him, although he also belonged to the revolutionary faction, but his importance to Sun Zhongshan made Yang Rui very worried, afraid that he would intentionally or unintentionally pass on the news to Sun Zhongshan, no matter what the past was, it would make Yang Rui very uneasy. But if you don't say it, you can't do it, there are only two people who are suitable for you among the people known in the United States, the first is Rong Hong, and the other is Situ Meitang, which is common in anti-Japanese novels, but now Situ Meitang has not been found, that is, he has found it, and his social status also determines that his role is limited, although he has a high status among the Chinese, but for the American high society, only Rong Hong, who graduated from Yale University, can be accepted.

I can only believe him, Yang Rui said to himself in his heart, and then said: "Mr. has been in the United States for many years, and has deep social influence, which is what we lack, if we want to revolution, then money and guns cannot be less, and these two revivals will be solved, but China's industrial base is weak, and many things can only be pinned on the United States." We are looking for three things, one is all kinds of industrial talents, overseas Chinese have come to the United States for many years, many have been integrated into the American society, have received professional training, which is not available in China, these talents I want to understand Mr. Guò contact introduction and hire to the country, at the same time we will also send some of the domestic plastic talents to the United States to study, Mr. Rong Hong has been responsible for students studying abroad before, and it should be familiar to do this again. ”

Rong Hong nodded, agreed, and motioned for Yang Rui to say the second article.

"The second is that whether it is before or after the success of the revolution, China needs a lot of industrial equipment, especially now, we are going to set up a military factory, but it is difficult to buy equipment for manufacturing guns and ammunition, we hope that Mr. can help us find suitable equipment and people who are willing to sell."

This was Rong Hong's expectation, he thought that Yang Rui would ask him to help buy arms, who knew that this step jumped directly to military equipment, he asked: "How big is this arms factory, where is it, and what should the engineer do?" ”

Yang Rui replied: "In the early days, the scale was not large, and it was enough to supply an army of 30,000 to 50,000 people, and I have not yet determined where the factory will open." Yang Rui looked at him with a smile, only to see him nod disappreciatively, and then said, "As for the engineers, we are going to open the arsenal around 19o6, which means that there are still two or three years to train talents, and we are going to put the cultivation of talents in the United States, which will rely on the relationship between Mr. in American society." ”

Rong Hong agreed, but said: "Nowadays, there is a strong atmosphere of rejection of Chinese in the United States, and it is difficult for Chinese to enter the country except for studying abroad and smuggling. These talents are trained in the United States, and they are bound to enter the factory, which must have a legal identity. ”