Chapter 142 Take it when you see it
"Let's talk about it."
"Your Highness, I really can't say."
"Why?"
"One is that I may make a mistake in my thinking, which can mislead His Royal Highness and the Queen, and even the official family. Secondly, there are eight articles of Han Gong in front of Fan Gong's ten articles, selecting generals, clearly inspecting, enriching wealth and profits, curbing luck, entering capable officials, retiring talents, entering officials, going to redundant food, the meaning is almost the same. ”
Zhao Ji understood.
Saying that Fan Zhongyan did ten things wrong, which means that Han Qi's eight articles are also wrong, just talk about Fan Zhongyan, after all, he is dead, but Han Qi is still alive, when he is the prime minister, Zuo Li's father succeeded to the minister, and his mother also believes that if he talks about it, Han Qi will be even more angry.
"Then you can tell me about it."
"Don't say it, it's a thing of the past, so why bother to say it."
"Punish the former and the latter."
Wang Ju made him so entangled that he had no choice but to say: "Then Your Highness can only hear, but not transmit." ”
"Okay."
"In the past, officials were milled every three years, and as long as they did not break the law, they could slowly grind into high-ranking officials, so many officials did not act, because once they did, there would be people who benefited and those who suffered, and disputes would arise. Therefore, Fan Gong proposed to use officials with ability. This intention is not bad, but you have to set up an assessment system, but Fan Gong is very simple, as long as he thinks it is inappropriate, his eyes are raw, and his name is unrecognizable, he will be removed from his post with a big stroke. Fu Gong advised, Fan Gong replied, it is better to cry at home than to cry all the way. What kind of ability does Fan Gong have, can clearly understand the ability of every official, and is everyone convinced? ”
"Makes sense."
"The second article is to suppress luck, if there are more officials and more rewards, the state's financial expenditure will be strict. But will this offend people? Besides, before Fan Chunren, the second son of Fan Gong, was not admitted to the Jinshi, he made up for the Taichang Temple Taizhu, and he didn't sort it out, how to deal with others? The minister used to persuade His Royal Highness to take a look at the history books of the reign of Xianping and see how Song Zhenzong did it, that is, to really cut unnecessary officials, and to lay off nearly 200,000 officials and officials at once, so that the finances became healthy. But what about Fan Gong, he didn't do it cleanly, and he offended everyone, he still has a tail, and it didn't work, do you accept it? ”
"Yes, it seems that Fan Gong is indeed inferior to Li Xinxianggong."
Wang Ju smiled, Fan Zhongyan has nothing to say about his conduct, including his sons, but this prime minister is indeed very unqualified, where can he be compared to the holy minister Li Xin, compared with the two, one is in the sky and the other is underground.
"The third fine tribute, this minister will not talk about it, one must study and eat in the county, how many poor families have been stumped, and there is also a state and county open book system, in that case, do the children of the poor family still want to go to high school, can the court still gather people and people?"
"He is also from a poor family."
"It's not that he forgot his roots, and some mistakes were taken for granted. Fourth, the chief officer, the supplement to the first article, send the envoy to go down to take a look, in fact, the Han and Tang dynasties also had a similar system, but we can ensure that the envoys can have a discerning eye, this is just a supplement to the supervision mechanism, and it is even more commonplace. ”
"Article 5, the public land, the redistribution of the job land, to some low-level officials can also share some job land, increase their income, in fact, high salaries to support the incorruptible, but the salary is high, the phenomenon of greed for ink has stopped? Even if the water control is mainly sparse, it is necessary to block the embankment, where to prevent it, why is a small Chen Liuqiao making such a big fuss, Fan Gong, Wang Yaochen Gong, Ouyang Gong These important ministers came out together, not for the court to convict Wang Ming of a private crime, but Fan Gong can't stand it, corruption is not severely punished, how can corruption be prevented? A high salary is one way, but how high does it have to be, and how many people can afford a prime minister's salary? ”
"Hou Nongsang, do you still use the court to say, the people don't pay attention to Nongsang? Where are the specific measures, agriculture and mulberry need water conservancy, what about water conservancy? The imperial court took cattle as assets, so the people were unwilling to raise cattle, and without cattle, how could the farmers be thicker? The poor people have nothing, has the imperial court ever done to subsidize it? ”
"Cultivating armaments, establishing secret regulations, and acting at the right time, this is armament? Even caught Ding everywhere in Gyeonggi, and even some ruffians in the market were caught in, this is Wubei? ”
"Reduction of conscription, even the errand does not dare to move, how can we talk about reducing conscription?"
"Qin Enxin, is there a letter based on what you say? If you want the people to love the country, the country must love the people. Where are the specific measures? Are there any rules for rewards and punishments? ”
"Heavy orders, could it be that the imperial edict was ......released in the past" The fart word made Wang Ju endure it back: "This is not an order of the imperial court, but an order of their gentleman." If these ten articles are implemented, how will the new deal not be defeated? ”
"No wonder Renzong has those five questions."
"Yes, but Fan Gong is kind-hearted, but he is too ambitious, but when it comes to implementation, there are no clear steps, so it's a bit taken for granted."
In fact, Fan Zhongyan's reform is not useless.
However, there are indeed various reasons, not to mention that reform will definitely lead to bloodshed.
What if the means are a little more gentle, such as the rule of Xianping and the reform of Song Xiaozong.
Or be determined to break the boat, such as Shang Ying's reform.
Soft is a strategy, hard is also a strategy, I am afraid of being big, and the determination is not enough, such as the future Xining change.
But it is true that Fan Zhongyan's change is inferior.
is also a failed change, let's compare it with Xining's change.
Wang Anshi started on finance, and Fan Zhongyan started on personnel.
Don't say that the financial crisis during the Song Dynasty was even more severe during the reform of the Qing Dynasty.
However, what Fan Zhongyan took out in his hand was either cliché or fake. fake, selling dog meat on the head of a sheep, such as Fan Zhongyan's personnel reform. Big, the intention is good, it can also be realized, and the soil that can be realized is not enough, such as Wang Anshi's seedling method. Empty, unattainable but taken out, or without clear goals and specific steps.
Wang Anshi's change of law is also too impatient, and his intentions are somewhat bad, not to enrich the people, but to accumulate wealth. There are also clichés and suspicions of "big", but they are not false or empty.
Yes, officials have both talent and morality, and the country will inevitably be governed, how many officials may be able to achieve both talent and morality?
Zhu Yuanzhang can't even peel the skin!
The official position!
Besides, Fan Zhongyan is reluctant to deal with officials even for a private crime, and if he is not punished, can a high salary and honesty make officials have both talent and morality? Or did he and Ouyang Xiu wave their pens and the elected officials were good?
One more question, there are 20,000 or 30,000 officials in the world, how can you Fan Zhongyan know the ability and ethics of every official?
Maybe Fan Zhong is selfish, but Ouyang Xiu and they are definitely selfish, and Shunchang is rebellious, so the so-called personnel reform is just for the sake of the so-called Gentleman's Party. It's not as good as Song Zhenzong.
Can you get down? Can you convince everyone?
Therefore, Wang Ju pointed out all the shortcomings of Fan Zhongyan's ten points, which was to deepen Zhao Ji's impression.
"How can the state move these evils?"
"Your Highness, you are embarrassed by the minister, the minister used to focus on learning, and he had little knowledge, so he could think so much." Wang Ju said hesitantly.
I can't really say that.
This time in Beijing is already a surprise, even if Han Qi is not happy, but how long can Han Qi stay in this position?
won the third place in the provincial exam, which made Zhao Ji have a good impression, which was too unexpected for him.
The country's shortcomings can be talked about, and it can also give Zhao Ji some enlightenment in a vague way, in fact, this has been said too much, and it has played a role, and Zhao Ji will think seriously because of himself when he succeeds to the throne in the future.
But how it will change, it cannot be said.
It doesn't work to say it first, does Zhao Shu listen?
Secondly, if you don't change, you will have a conflict of interest, and if you don't get it right, it will really make Han Qi and Ouyang Xiu angry. Or let Zhao Ji keep it secret? As long as it is said, this is for the country and the people, can Zhao Ji keep it secret?
People know enough.
And what can't be achieved, it's better not to do it, this is Wang Ju's criterion.
And he is young, and now he doesn't even have an official position, so he can't delve into this muddy water ignorantly.
So Wang Ju accepted it when he saw it.
But Zhao Ji didn't believe it, he suddenly became happy, it's not bad, Wang Ju is just this age, even if he says this, it's quite remarkable, even Zhao Ji himself seems to feel that since he met Wang Ju, he has been improving every day.
But his gaze quickly shifted to Zhao Niannu......
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