After Kong Kun announced the beginning of the debate, Chunyu Zhongxiu first said: "The system of the Qin State first lies in the emphasis on agriculture, the waste of well fields, the opening of Qianmo, the thick agriculture and mulberry, the suppression of merchants, the recognition of private land, the establishment of clear taxes, so that the people have their own land, the tax is appropriate, and it has been the foundation of the Qin State's strength. In Zhong Xiu's view, the Qin system is excellent, and the agricultural mulberry system should be in the first place. ”

Because the Chinese nation has been an agrarian nation since ancient times, even in the pre-Qin era, it also attached great importance to agriculture, and this is indeed one of the important contents of the Shang Dynasty reform, so Chunyu Zhongxiu first put forward the article of heavy agriculture, and no one could raise any objections. Even if he pursued the details, Chun Yu Zhongxiu also had enough confidence to convince his opponent that in this regard, Qin Guo really had to do better than the other six countries, and it also provided Chun Yu Zhongxiu with a lot of evidence.

Sure enough, after Chun Yu Zhongxiu finished speaking, Luo Mingzhu and Fu Lian glanced at each other, and their eyebrows were slightly frowned. It can also be seen that Chun Yu Zhongxiu's first move is indeed very powerful. Make it difficult for them to refute.

Just when Luo Mingzhu was about to admit Chun Yu Zhongxiu's speech, Fu Qi suddenly said: "In my opinion, although the Qin State attaches great importance to agricultural affairs, it is not advisable to abolish the old system of the first king by abandoning the well fields and opening up the Qianmo, so I think that although the Qin State attaches importance to agriculture, it cannot be regarded as the advantage of the Qin system, on the contrary, it is the inferiority of the Qin system." ”

After he finished speaking, the crowd on the left and right suddenly whispered, and there were a few applause.

In the general concept of another time and space, Confucianism was founded by Confucius, in fact, strictly speaking, the founder of Confucianism was the founding hero of the Zhou Dynasty, Zhou Gong, because the foundation of Confucianism was the Zhou rite formulated by the Zhou Gong, that is, the state system of the Zhou Dynasty. Kong Xiao was only the first Confucian master after the Duke of Zhou, and he collected the great achievements of Confucianism at that time. And the Jingtian system is also the land system of the Zhou Dynasty.

According to the concept of Confucian scholars at this time, the Qiē system should respect the old system of the Zhou Dynasty and must not be changed. And Fu Qi knew that he couldn't argue with the other party from the point of heavy agriculture and mulberry, so he threw out the well field system and fundamentally denied the agricultural system of the Qin State.

Chun Yu Zhongxiu also frowned, if you want to refute Fu Lian's words, you must prove that the private field system is better than the well field system, but the debate about the well field system and the private field system is a hot topic of discussion among scholars in this era. There will be stubble here, which Chun Yu Zhongxiu did not expect.

At this time, Gao Yuan said: "I remember that the change of the well field to private land is from the beginning of the Lu State, and it has been more than 300 years, and the Qin State has implemented the private field system, only more than 120 years, it can be seen that the change of the well field to the private field is not a country of Qin, let alone from the beginning of the Qin State, today we are discussing the advantages and disadvantages of the Qin system, not the advantages and disadvantages of the well field system and the private field system, and in today's world, there is still that country using the well field system, taking a system that no one uses anymore, compared with the system of the Qin State, I think it is inappropriate. ”

After Gao Yuan finished speaking, it caused another discussion in the audience, and many scholars who insisted on retro were very dissatisfied with Gao Yuan's words, and even some people whispered questions, and of course some people refuted them, so it was also very lively.

Kong Kun and the four cultivators glanced at each other, Kong Kun coughed dryly, and said: "The well field system is indeed not suitable for comparison with the agricultural system of the Qin State, so there is no need to mention the well field system." ”

As a matter of fact, the controversy over the well field system and the private field system is only limited to academics, and in the actual politics of various countries, there is no country that still uses the well field system, and the monarchs of various countries may not understand the concepts of promoting social development and liberating the productive forces, but the practical interests are in front of them, and the implementation of the private land system has greatly increased grain production and the treasury revenue has risen sharply. The monarchs are all pragmatic, so they don't care what ancestral system is not the ancestral system?

Of course, this is also a common tactic in the debate, that is, to disrupt the opponent's train of thought, and the best way to deal with it is not to be led by the other party, so the plateau does not argue the advantages and disadvantages of the well field system and the private field system at all, but directly speaks with facts, if the well field system is good, why is there no country to use it anymore?

However, Kong Kun and others had to guard against it, for fear that the plateau would set Fu Qi again, because if the discussion on the well field system and the private field system continued, it would be difficult to guarantee that it would not involve the national system.

Although Fu Qi was a little unconvinced, but Zhong Zhi had already given it, and he couldn't change it, and if he lost this weapon, of course they had no way to argue with Gao Yuan and Chunyu Zhongxiu on this issue, so Luo Mingzhu said: "Okay, we also admit that the system of agriculture and mulberry is indeed the advantage of the Qin system." ”

The scholars who supported the Qin system suddenly burst into applause, and Chunyu Zhongxiu also breathed a sigh of relief, finally winning the first round, and at the same time glanced at Gao Yuan gratefully.

When everyone quieted down, it was Luo Mingzhu and Fu Liang's turn to speak. Luo Mingzhu said: "As far as Mingzhu knows, the Qin State implements the law of ten households sitting together, one household violates the law, and the remaining nine households will be punished for the same crime if they do not sue the official in advance, one person steals, and the whole family is punished as official slaves. ”

Chun Yu Zhongxiu nodded and said, "There is indeed this method." "The Qin State is really sitting in the law, which is a well-known thing in the world, so it can't be denied at all, so it can only be honestly admitted.

Luo Mingzhu smiled slightly, and said: "The laws of various countries, although there are also crimes that are full of prisons, but they are all major crimes such as treason and rebellion, and they will not be imposed on ordinary people, so the law of sitting together is the tyranny of the Qin State, I don't know what Sister Chunyu thinks?" ”

Chun Yu Zhongxiu smiled bitterly, Luo Mingzhu was really powerful, and he attacked his weakness as soon as he made a move. Although objectively speaking, the joint sitting method is indeed conducive to the state's management of the people, and at the same time, it can also deter the people and greatly reduce the crime rate of the Qin State. In another time and space, Sima Fa commented on the Qin State in the [Historical Records], saying that the people of the Qin State "had the courage to fight in public and rob in private fights", and even the sitting method did play an important role in it. But in any case, the law of joint sitting is indeed a cool law, it is to use heavy punishment to control the people, one family violates the law, ten households are guilty of the same crime, one person steals, the whole family is enslaved, obviously it has involved too many innocent people, this is unjustifiable.

Therefore, Chunyu Zhongxiu glanced at Gao Yuan and was ready to admit defeat in this round.

At this time, Gao Yuan said: "What Miss Luo said is a little wrong. ”

Luo Mingzhu listened, raised his eyebrows, and said, "Oh, Lord Shangqing thinks that there is something wrong." ”

Chunyu Zhongxiu was also a little surprised, although she glanced at Gao Yuan just now, but it was just a subconscious action, and she didn't expect Gao Yuan to be able to pull back on this topic, after all, there was not much room for justification for the Lian Sitting. But Gao Yuan just spoke, does he really have the ability to say that the dead are alive?

Gao Yuan said: "I said that what Miss Luo said is a little wrong, because Miss Luo has not finished speaking, the method of sitting is a small part of the household registration system of the Qin State, and Miss Luo only extracts a small part from it, which is not appropriate, and the household registration system of the Qin State should be explained in its entirety, please Miss Chun Yu will tell you all the contents of the household registration system of the Qin State." ”

Although Chunyu Zhongxiu didn't understand why Gao Yuan did this, he still said: "The household registration of the Qin State, the people make up a tith for every ten households, set up a chief, and the register of each household is handed over to the government for preservation for inspection. Otherwise, he is guilty of the same crime as a thief. After a pause, he said: "Then there is the method of ten households sitting together, which is the whole content of the household registration system of the Qin State." ”

Luo Mingzhu didn't understand why Gao Yuan asked Chunyu Zhongxiu to tell all the contents of the household registration system of the Qin State, but he still nodded and said, "Sister Chunyu really has a deep study of the Qin State system, and Mingzhu admires it." Then he turned to the plateau and said, "I wonder what the adults want to prove?" ”

Gao Yuan said: "The law of sitting is indeed tyranny, we do not deny this, but it is only a small part of the household registration system of the Qin State, the household registration system of the Qin State in addition to the law of continuous sitting, everything else is desirable, ten households are compiled into one, travel to receive coupons, are conducive to the state's management of the people's households, the state divides the land, the collection of taxes is sufficient evidence, not only to ensure that each household has enough land, but also so that the national tax revenue will not be reduced, more importantly, once conscription and combat, can be immediately reorganized into an army, This is also the advantage of the household registration system of the Qin State. ”

Luo Shuzhu was stunned for a moment, and didn't know how to answer for a while. Fu Qi said: "Is it tyranny for Lord Shangqing to admit that the law of joint sitting? ”

Gao Yuan said with a smile: "I said a long time ago that the law of sitting together is indeed tyranny, but it should not be denied the advantages of the entire household registration system of the Qin State because of the tyranny of the law of sitting together, what do Miss Luo and Mr. Fu think?" ”

Luo Mingzhu and Fu Qi also had nothing to say, because Gao Yuan did admit that the law of sitting was tyranny, so Luo Mingzhu had no choice but to say: "What Lord Shangqing said is good, the household registration system of the Qin State also has advantages. ”

Chun Yu Zhongxiu only then understood the intention of the plateau, even in terms of the sitting method, his own side really could not debate with the other party, and the plateau method was to enlarge the sitting method and put forward the household registration system of the Qin State as a whole, so that the tyranny of the sitting method was only a small part of the household registration system of the Qin State, and the household registration system of the Qin State still had considerable advantages, so that the weakness of the tyranny of the joint sitting method was actually diluted. As a result, it was a topic that was bound to lose by itself, but it was stirred up by the plateau, but it became a tie.