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And in this time and space, because Hu Weidong has established a relatively complete logistics system, and all military supplies are produced by state-owned enterprises within the system, this kind of thing will naturally not happen again. At the same time, a stricter product sampling system and more severe punishment measures are also a great deterrent to those black-hearted profiteers, so even in the civilian market, there is no chaos in the early days of the founding of the People's Republic of China, which has somewhat changed Taizu's view of capitalists. But what really completely changed the fate of China's private capital was a long conversation between Hu Weidong and Taizu later

"First of all, as long as the public-owned economy, especially the economy owned by the whole people, is guaranteed to be the dominant position in the national economy, the existence of private capital has nothing to do with the overall situation. And for now, China is still very poor and backward, and we need to unite all those who can unite to comprehensively promote industrialization; And even if we think about it a little longer-term, national capital still has the value of continuing to exist," Hu Weidong fearlessly met the seemingly penetrating gaze of the great man, and earnestly expounded his views, "As a brand-new social system, the socialist road is not like capitalism, which has hundreds of years of experience accumulation, and even the experience of the Soviet Union cannot be simply copied to China due to the huge differences in national conditions. First of all, although the Soviet Union has developed from an agricultural country into a powerful industrial country in just over 20 years, it must be noted that long before the October Revolution, they were already one of the top six industrial powers, with a large literate population and considerable scientific and technological power, so the foundation of industrialization was much better than ours. Second, the Soviet Union was sparsely populated and extremely rich in resources, and they only needed to export resources to obtain the necessary funds for industrialization, and the effect of the industrial and agricultural scissors gap was only to slightly accelerate this process (Note 1). ”

"And our Chinese foundation is much weaker. Under normal circumstances, it would have taken two generations just to reach the industrial foundation before the start of the first five years of the Soviet Union, even if we now rely on the efforts of Mao Zemin and other comrades to get a large amount of money from overseas. It will also take at least one generation, because industrialization does not only require machinery and equipment and materials, but also requires a sufficient number of industrial workers and scientific and technological and modern management personnel, all of which have high requirements for the cultural quality of the people. Even industrial workers with relatively low education requirements must at least graduate from junior high school to be easier to train, which takes eight years (five-year primary school). Not to mention senior technicians, scientific and technological personnel and managers with advanced concepts. Self-study is a good way, but after all, there are only a few people with strong self-learning ability, and for the same person, the speed of self-learning is not faster than that in the school anyway, but it can save some teachers; The foreign workers we are starting to bring in can do a lot of work that is difficult for Chinese workers to do at the moment, but they are still foreigners, and there is a serious shortage of translators. At present, we can basically only organize them into enterprise units, and get their help by giving them production tasks, but we can't expect them to help us train many technicians", Hu Weidong said this, and Taizu, who frowned, couldn't help but light a cigarette and take a hard puff

At this time, Hu Weidong said the most weighty passage in this night's long conversation. "The national conditions of China and foreign countries are very different, and even if our development is better than that of foreign countries, we cannot say that we have done it right, because with the superiority of socialism, who knows if we will not be able to do better? The development is not as good as that of foreign countries, and it cannot be said that it must be done wrong, because the congenital conditions are different. Take Australia as an example, with such a large land and so many resources, but only a few million people, we can sell a few resources to make all the people live a rich life, which we can't compare no matter how hard we try. Therefore, the situation in foreign countries cannot be used as an accurate reference, and if a part of the private economy is retained in China and allowed to compete with the public economy under the same conditions, then the problem can be reflected more objectively. If our public-owned enterprises are not as good as those of privately-owned enterprises, it means that we have deficiencies in management or other aspects and need to make improvements. ”

Taizu nodded slightly, but still emphasized, "Take its essence and remove its dross." ”

"This is natural, in fact, the private sector is highly polarized, and on the whole, no matter what the circumstances, the sluggish private companies will account for a large part, and even if we want to learn, we will only learn from those who are the most haode." Hu Weidong smiled and continued, "And if our public-owned enterprises are better than private enterprises, it can show the superiority of socialism, in fact, this possibility is undoubtedly greater, with the domestic private enterprises as a negative contrast, the broad masses of cadres and masses will naturally always believe that we are on the right road." Otherwise, under the malicious guidance of internal and external enemies, they are likely to compare China's living standards with those of the Western powers, but after all, China's foundation is weak, and its per capita resources are seriously insufficient, and the external environment is very bad, no matter how superior the socialist system is, it is impossible to catch up with the Western capitalist countries that have developed for hundreds of years in a short period of time, and the enemy will have a reason to question the correctness of the path we have chosen, even if this is simply sophistry, but most of the people can only see what is in front of them. If you're not careful, you'll be bewitched."

"You doll is good at everything, but the elite consciousness is a little stronger, the masses are not as short-sighted and stupid as you think, their vision is bright! Believe in the masses! Taizu was displeased when he heard this, but he actually knew in his heart that at least for now, most of the domestic people did still have all the problems that Hu Weidong said, so he quickly slowed down his tone and smiled at Hu Weidong, "The speaker is not guilty, you continue." ”

Note 1: Before World War II, the Soviet Union's exports were dominated by minerals (after the war, the proportion of manufactured goods exports increased, while agricultural products began to be imported in large quantities. The role of the industrial and agricultural scissors gap is mainly reflected in ensuring the sales of domestic industrial products and the income distribution of all strata in the country, which has little to do with the export of foreign exchange, which is completely different from the situation in China. It can be said that even if the Soviet Union is not good for the use of labor and agriculture, industrialization can still be completed (without considering external threats), but the speed will be much slower, and if the new China in history does not rely on this method, heavy industry will not develop at all. (To be continued.) )