Su Ning said with a smile: "There are naturally methods, and there are many more, they are all complementary strategies, and they need to be used together, and the effect ministers dare not boast, as long as the officials in charge strictly follow it, but these 150,000 slaves should basically be able to live for five years, of which 100,000 years are a little younger, and they can even live for seven or eight years or even ten years." ”

Wei Zheng was moved, the court was moved, and Li Erbixia was moved: "Oh? Does it work? Su Aiqing said it quickly! ”

Suning nodded and said, "The first point is to improve his treatment." ”

"Better treatment?" Li Erbixia's brows furrowed, the military people's brows also wrinkled, and the brows of many Wenchen also wrinkled, only a small number of family officials showed a gloating smile, at the beginning, the head of the Gongnu Division insisted on his own opinion to improve the treatment of Turkic prisoners, but was surrounded and attacked by a vote of court bosses, and he still insisted on it, Zuihou really collapsed completely in desperation, and only got the result of one steamed bun a day.

High-intensity labor, super low nutritional level, it is really a miracle that they can survive, and those officials and soldiers who manage them don't treat them as human beings at all, beat and scold them at every turn, and don't care if they are injured or sick, it is directly the result of death, more than 10,000 people die a year is still light, a plague directly all gameover, and still want to live?

But this will not work, this will not only put the entire labor reform policy into a vicious circle, but also make this policy have a great side effect - these captives have a deep hatred for the Tang Dynasty, so it is very likely that one or two very bold men will become the Turkic version of Spartak. Bringing the slaves to rebel and make trouble together will be even more troublesome at that time, so if you want to avoid this kind of thing from happening at the source, you must legislate to restrict it!

"That's right, Bixia, to improve the treatment of Turkic captives, this is a must." Suning said.

"Bixia, the minister is against! Sanyuan Marquis's statement is inappropriate, Datang's grain is to be prepared for the use of the people affected by the Datang disaster, and now the grain production is insufficient. In addition to the daily use of the people and the use of the Tang army. The few surpluses that are born are to be prepared to deal with the famine, and if there is no famine, a considerable part must be set aside for emergencies, if it is as the Marquis of Mihara said. Improve the treatment of 150,000 captives. Then there will be 150,000 people in the Tang Dynasty who will be unable to survive! bixia。 Chen resolutely opposes this move, how can the lives of the Turkic captives be compared with the lives of our Tang people! As soon as Suning finished speaking, Tang Jian, the secretary of the Ministry of Civil Affairs, stood up against Suning's opinion.

This matter has been mentioned more than once by the master of the Public Slave Division. were all refuted by him and a large number of officials, including Hou Junji, the secretary of the Ministry of War, and Wu Shitong, the secretary of the Ministry of Industry, these three people are surprisingly consistent in their attitudes on this matter, even if Tang Jian admires Suning very much, and the labor reform policy is also known to Li Erbixia by Suning through Tang Jian's mouth, but only on this issue, Tang Jian will not let go, especially after he served as the secretary of the Ministry of Civil Affairs.

Suning looked at this old man who had a lot of relationship with him, and had a headache, and then the Ministry of Industry Shangshu Wushi Tong and the Ministry of War Shangshu Hou Junji seconded the opposition, for the same reason, except for the head of the Gongnu Division who looked at Suning with tears on his face, most of the other officials were opposed, especially Tang Jian moved out of the 150,000 Tang people and 150,000 Turkic slaves, which is an important reason, and all the officials maintained the same opinion.

Li Erbixia frowned and was a little embarrassed, the master of the Gongnu Division was his absolute confidant, he proposed more than once to improve the living environment of slaves to strengthen the contribution of Turkic slaves to the Tang Dynasty, but the ministers objected, and the province of Menxia could not pass this order, Li Erbixia could only stare dryly, helpless, the removal of the province of the door to the matter and force through this matter, it will definitely cause strong opposition from the ministers, rather than offending all the ministers because of a group of Turks, it is better to have more than one thing and one less thing.

But now Suning also raised this question, as the founder, Li Erbixia thinks that no one understands the importance and flaws of this policy better than Suning, everything he does is to make up for this defect, but improving the treatment of Turkic slaves means giving the food of the people of the Tang Dynasty to the Turkic slaves to eat, which, this is also a little uncomfortable, at that time, the hard-earned income of the people of the Tang Dynasty, why should those Turkic slaves eat?

Suning, is there any way you can convince these people?

"Tang Shangshu, I want to ask you a question." After listening to these people's objections, Suning said this sentence with a flat face; Tang Jian has always admired Suning, since he saved himself and then put forward the policy of foreign affairs and labor reform, Tang Jian has been committed to research, and the results of the research made him very satisfied, especially when he was first Honglu Siqing, and then the secretary of the Ministry of Civil Affairs, in charge of two key positions, and his understanding was more profound, so he was so opposed, he didn't understand that Suning was obviously the founder, but why did he do this kind of thing? Doesn't he know how precious the rations of 150,000 people are for the current Datang?

So Tang Jian frowned and replied, "Sanyuan Hou, please ask, a certain person listens." ”

Suning nodded and said, "As far as Tang Shangshu is concerned, what is the difference between the labor force of a Turkic middle-aged male captive and my Tang Zhuangding?" ”

Tang Jian frowned and thought for a while, and replied: "Turkic men grow freely in the grassland, grow up eating meat, are skilled in horsemanship, and their bodies are stronger than those of the Central Plains Zhuangding. ”

Suning nodded: "And when using Turkic captives, sometimes you don't have to care about their life or death, you don't have to pity their labor, and use them at will, so I think that a Turkic middle-aged male labor is twice the labor of a middle-aged male in the Tang Dynasty, can Tang Shangshu do the same?" ”

Tang Jian thought for a while and nodded: "You can think so." ”

Suning continued: "The Turkic captives captured this time are 150,000 together with the previous ones, and among the 150,000 Turkic laborers, it is conservatively estimated that there are 70,000 male laborers in the prime of life, which is higher than the proportion of the Tang Dynasty Zhuangding to the population, which is also caused by the living habits of the Turkic people. The noble and strong are cheap and old, so the men are basically in the prime of life, and the middle-aged female laborers also account for 30,000 or 40,000 people, and the rest are young children and the elderly.

According to a certain budget, the labor force of a Turkic middle-aged male laborer is twice that of the Tang Dynasty, that is to say, 70,000 Turkic laborers are worth the labor force of 140,000 Tang Zhuangding, and if the labor force of a Turkic middle-aged female laborer is used strongly, it can almost be compared with a Tang Dynasty middle-aged man. ”

Tang Jian frowned and thought for a while, and reluctantly nodded: "It's okay to say this." After all, the system of Turkic women is indeed stronger than that of Central Plains women. It is also stronger than some men, and it is also bearable when used vigorously. ”

Suning continued: "Then 40,000 Turkic middle-aged female laborers are worth 40,000 Tang Dynasty strongmen, so it's okay to think so, and the remaining 40,000 young children and old people." Let's count it as two Turkic young children and an old man, which is worth a middle-aged male laborer in the Tang Dynasty. Can? ”

Tang Jian thought for a while. said: "The living habits are different, and its system is indeed stronger than that of the Central Plains people, which is this." It's pretty much the same. ”

Suning nodded and said: "That is to say, 150,000 Turkic captives, if counted as labor, can be worth 200,000 Tang Zhuang Ding, we use 150,000 Turkic prisoners, we can dispense with 200,000 Tang Zhuang Ding, pay attention, it is the forced labor of Zhuang Ding, and there are basically only one or two Zhuang Ding in a family, that is to say, these 150,000 Turkic prisoners have been exempted from the conscription of more than 100,000 families for Datang, how many families are there in Datang?" As far as a certain know, there are now a total of 2.8 million households in Datang, and these 150,000 Turkic laborers can be exempted from forced labor by one-twenty-eighth of Datang's families! With these 150,000 captives, one out of every twenty-eight families is exempt from forced labor!

From this point of view, if we distribute these 150,000 captives according to the amount of food for the people of the Tang Dynasty, we are equivalent to using the food of 150,000 people in exchange for 200,000 strong men and the stability of more than 100,000 households, and if we can continue to streamline a little, we can even use the food of these 150,000 people to support the labor of 250,000 Tang Zhuang men! We are equivalent to exchanging 150,000 people's food for the stability of 250,000 Tang Zhuangding, everyone, why not!

The longer they live, the longer the people of Datang can get stability, they can produce and farm with peace of mind, work and be a soldier with peace of mind, study and study with peace of mind, and do not have to worry about affecting their normal life because of heavy conscription, and the 250,000 strong men who do not have the burden of conscription can almost provide 50,000 to 100,000 soldiers and horses for Datang, continue to expand the territory, capture more prisoners, and reduce the burden of more Datang people. Abolish conscription! ”

Abolish conscription! Abolish conscription! Abolish conscription!

What does this mean? Since the era of the Three Emperors and Five Emperors, can there be a dynasty that can abolish the act of forced labor? Even if it is Wuding Zhongxing, Chengkang's rule, Wenjing's rule, the prosperity of the Han Dynasty, and the prosperity of Guangwu, can there be a dynasty that has abolished the people's servitude? No! What will happen to a country without conscription? What will happen to his courtiers and army? What will happen to his emperor?

Holy Monarch!

Li Erbixia's mind suddenly appeared this word, Shengjun, this is an existence that he has never dared to touch, but it is an existence that he has always dreamed of touching, if he can abolish forced labor, then for him, are the wrong things he has done still wrong? Do you still need to talk about the mistakes he made and the criticisms? Which is more important, or the abolition of forced labor?

What will future generations say about Datang? How would you evaluate him Li Shimin?

Li Erbixia's hands trembled involuntarily, his psychology was very uncalm, and he could even be described as stormy waves, and His Royal Highness's ministers also had the same idea, although Suning had already said the possibility of abolishing forced labor, but now Suning told them the real possibility through real numbers, this matter is not impossible, but possible, forced labor is not every household has to bear, but it is necessary to regularly draw some of the strong men of the family to be responsible, according to this ratio, in fact, it doesn't take much, 500,000, 500,000 captives are enough to afford the conscription of the entire Tang Dynasty, or even more, more!

These slaves can do a lot of things, reclamation, digging canals, building fortresses, building water conservancy projects, building roads, etc., without costing the people like Emperor Yang of Sui, but completely without the people's power, let the people recuperate, and completely use these Turkic captives, all they need is rations, enough to keep these captives alive and continue to contribute to the Tang Dynasty until their use value is drained......

Without the liliang of the people, but only with some supervised soldiers and horses and grain, such a feat can be accomplished, such a dynasty, will there be opposition and hostility from the people? When the people of other countries hear about it, they will definitely rush to settle down in Datang and enjoy the excellent treatment of the people of Datang, and at that time, Datang will usher in a truly glorious and prosperous era!

And this prosperous era is so within reach...... (To be continued......)