The post-match press conference at the Olympic Stadium in Berlin is right next door to the Wen Center.

So, as soon as the award ceremony was over and the players walked back to the dressing room, the media from all over the world immediately poured into the press center from all directions, and after finishing the work at hand, they gathered at the press conference.

The managers of both sides were also very punctual, without too much delay, and appeared on time.

At this time, it was close to the early hours of the morning, so the organizing committee did not make too many arrangements and went straight to the topic.

"Hello, Marcelo, we'd love to know, what do you think of this game?"

The reporters immediately threw the first question to Marcelo Bielsa, who won the championship honor.

The Argentine madman sat on the stage, smiling slightly.

'It was a really great game, we played really well, Bayern Munich is a top team and caused us a lot of problems, but we also created a lot of chances, so in the end the team that performed better won the title!'

'There is no doubt that we have not only made the history of Southampton, but the history of English football and the history of European football, and we all have reason to be proud and proud of that.'

After hearing this, the reporters immediately looked at Guardiola, who was sitting on the side, "Pep? ”

Guardiola should have been prepared for a long time, and after hearing the question, he smiled at Bielsa and nodded: "Yes, Southampton completed a great game, they executed very well during the game, they took the opportunity quite well, and the whole game created a lot of pressure on us, they deserved to win." ”

'I would say it's a shame we didn't have the last laugh, but I was in the game with my players and we really believed we had a chance to win and we gave our all for it, but Southampton was the better side.

'It's been an extraordinary season for us as well, we came close to winning the treble, just a little bit closer, which would be a shame for all the people who supported us, but that's football.

'The Saints have a lot of quality players, especially their attacking players, they're the best team on the planet and it's always very difficult against an opponent like that, but I think we did a good job and we lost the game in the end, but we did our best.

The reporters immediately asked again, "Marcelo, we all know that you have a good relationship with Pep, is there anything you would like to say?" ”

Bielsa nodded and thought for a moment, "I think Pep is a great manager, he did a great job at Bayern Munich, and he did what a manager can do in this game, and he and his team deserve respect. ”

"Pep? What about you? The reporter asked again.

"Marcelo is a great manager!"

As soon as Guardiola's words came out, the audience burst into laughter.

Unexpectedly, Guardiola, who doesn't talk much on weekdays, is not completely without a sense of humor.

"Southampton's tactics are very thought-provoking and worth pondering, this team has changed a lot of what we know about football in the past, and this game is set to change European football!"

Many people present began to talk about it.

Obviously, many people feel that the two of you are blowing about you, and I am praising you.

But in fact, only those who really know football deeply can understand the meaning of the words of these two European coaches.

If you look at the coaching results of the two alone, who wins and who loses, I am afraid it is difficult to say clearly.

Bielsa's success at Southampton over the years has catapulted him to the top of the world.

But what were the saints who made Belsa?

Or did Bielsa make the saints?

Many neutral people would surely say that the two complement each other.

But in fact, in Bielsa's success, the Saints factor is undoubtedly quite crucial, especially the trust and support of the management led by Yang Huan to Bielsa, as well as the large-scale investment every year.

In terms of the team's lineup, the Saints are slightly better than Bayern Munich, which is also recognized by everyone before the game.

So in this game, Bayern Munich lost 0-3, which seems to be a complete defeat, but if you take a closer look at the game process, Guardiola has done his best to redeem Bayern Munich's defeat.

But unfortunately, the strength of the saints is too strong.

Therefore, Guardiola lost, but not because he was not as good as others, but because of Bayern Munich's lack of strength.

As for Bielsa, his success is certainly due to his own strength, but it is also inseparable from the platform of the Saints.

So, after asking a few more questions, the conversation quickly focused on the future of the two famous marshals.

"Marcelo, you have publicly stated that this season will be your last season in charge of the Saints, and now, the Saints have completed two consecutive championships, I wonder if you can redeem your intentions?"

Journalists are concerned about Bielsa's future.

The Argentine madman smiled slightly, "Frankly, I never thought we would be able to defend the Champions League, but I will not change the decision I made after careful consideration, and I will not continue to coach the Saints." ”

'There is news that Manchester United and Real Madrid are both considering asking you to coach. The reporter asked again.

Bielsa shook her head, "No, I haven't received any invitations, for the time being, I'm thinking about adjusting my role, I hope to have more time to rest, so that I can think about something that interests me." ”

It can be seen that the Argentines have made up their minds, which is also expected by the reporters on the scene.

"Marcelo, we have a lot of respect for your decision, but, from your point of view, who would you most like to see to replace you as head coach of the Saints?"

After hearing this, Bielsa was a little confused, "I don't know how to answer this, there are too many questions to consider when hiring a manager, and I believe that the club management should be prepared." ”

"The Sun has done a survey on this point, and of all the managers who have succeeded you, Pep Guardiola sitting next to you is the favourite and the most anticipated by Saints fans, what do you think?"

When Bielsa heard this, he immediately looked at Guardiola, and the two immediately knew it.

Speaking of which, going around and around, it still came back to the two of them.

"I still say the same thing, the head coach should be hired! Management decides. "But if I were asked for my opinion, I'd say Pep would be the ideal head coach for the Saints, and he would take the Saints to a whole new and greater level, and I have no doubt about that." ”

Everyone was a little surprised, they didn't expect Bielsa to speak so highly of Guardiola.

"Pep, what about you? Ever considered accepting an invitation from Southampton? ”

Guardiola smiled slightly, nodded and said: "I believe that in this world, I am afraid that no one can refuse the invitation of the saints, including me." Speaking of which, Guardiola also changed his words, "However, I still have a contract with Bayern Munich." ”

"There's only one year left, Pep, you should know that if you want, the Saints can help you negotiate with Bayern Munich, and even pay liquidated damages."

But Pep Guardiola shook his head, "It's not my style of doing things, I respect my contract with Bayern Munich. ”

Is this a disguised rejection of Southampton?

The reporters below are beating drums in their hearts.

That's the end of the topic of the two famous marshals.

Soon, the problem shifted to the players.

As for the fact that a number of players in the current Saints squad have been poached to varying degrees, Bielsa believes that Southampton should not let go of their players easily, but should consolidate their achievements in the past few years.

'Pogba and Kovacic are not going to leave the team, they have always been in the team's plans, and so is Lavel Morrison, he has a lot of affection for the team and don't forget that he is only 22 years old and he should stay with the Saints and continue to grow.

"Yes, Kaka is going to leave the team at the end of the season and go to the United States to play in the major leagues, and if I were to judge his career with the Saints, I think it was a success because he helped us a lot, and a lot of it is something that the outside world can't figure out."

Kaka only brought on Bielsa as a substitute in the final minutes before the end of the game, making him a three-time Champions League winner and a four-time Champions League finalist.

Although Kaka's status at Southampton has gradually declined this season, no one will forget the help he brought to Southampton last season and the positive role model he has given to his younger team-mates in his usual training.

That's exactly what Bielsa was trying to say.

From the perspective of the club, after Kaka joined the Saints, the commercial value has been enhanced, which has led to the growth of the club's interests and commercial income, especially the influence of the Saints in South America and Asia, which has increased by leaps and bounds.

So, from a transfer point of view, the operation of Kaka is a success.

As for the competitive level, two Premier League titles, two Champions League titles, especially last season's Premier League title and Champions League champion, Kaka has contributed a lot, so it can be regarded as basically satisfied.

With Pogba, Mateo Kovacic and Oscar gradually picking up the stalwart in midfield this season, coupled with the rise of teenager Prowse, the Saints' midfield lineup is extremely luxurious, and it is difficult for Kaka to get a chance, let alone perform.

This is also what no one thought when Kaka joined.

So, when Kaka decided to leave, the Saints management didn't interfere too much.

In recent years, the Saints have experienced a blowout of talent and an accelerated metabolism, not to mention Kaka, even like Nemanja, who is under competitive pressure.

Because Toni Kroos has not been injured or sick this season and has maintained his form, Matic is still more focused on the Premier League, but with the rise of Kovacic, his position has also been affected.

On a number of occasions, Bielsa even substituted Nemanja Matic and replaced him with Mateo Kovacic.

In some dispensable cup competitions, the team has also focused on developing Youri Tielemans, which has affected Nemanja Matic's appearances and has been mired in transfer rumours this summer.

Even the Saints management is considering whether Matic should be let go.

Don't look at Nemanja Matic's rotation role in the Saints, but based on his performance in the Premier League, the authority gives an estimate of 30 million pounds, but it is impossible to get Matic at this price.

Because now almost all of Europe is crazy about this type of midfielder.

But in Southampton's tactical system, Nemanja Matic is gradually exposing his weaknesses and shortcomings.

If Nemanja Matic's biggest weapon for Southampton was his defensive prowess, the importance of his defence has been diminished by the Saints' unrivalled attacking prowess.

Even in this Champions League final against Bayern Munich, the role of Toni Kroos in Southampton's midfield position is more reflected in the organization of ball control and overall planning, but at the defensive level, his role is not obvious.

It can even be said that it is not very needed.

That's why Bielsa sometimes replaces Nemanja Matic with Mateo Kovacic.

Times have changed, European football is changing rapidly, and it is normal for the main players of last season to be reduced to substitutes this season, and even to be beaten into the cold.

I believe that all professional players have already had such an awareness!