In fact, there was no head before the sixth level, and both sides were very stable, in fact, it wasn't that I didn't want to take the head, but the person on the other side didn't seem to give me a chance, and I didn't have the idea of getting the head at all.

But when you get to the sixth level, you will definitely have a chance.,The day before yesterday it was up to us where we want to go to the university.,The place where our jungler can catch people is more casual.。

Looking at the three ways, you can actually go to fight.

First of all, let's talk about the road, the damage of the cooperation of the two ultimates is naturally needless to say, I estimate that Kenan's ultimate, if he can't open it, he may be seconded.

It's very simple, the werewolf has a big move, and at this time, the stone man doesn't need to use his ultimate move in a hurry, he just needs to wait for the werewolf's control to be over before keeping up with this control.

Let this chain of control be able to achieve a good connection.

At the beginning, the stone can go up and use the W skill output.,I forgot the specific mechanism of the W skill, it seems to be a 100% critical hit.,I also forgot what it is.,Anyway, it's able to increase the damage of your ordinary attacks.。

We can know that when Stone Man turns on W, his normal attack is two hands to thrash together, I remember it seems that when he reaches 100% critical hit, he also thrashes with two hands, and then waits until the Werewolf's ultimate is over and then keeps up with the output.

Of course, if you are afraid of nightmares and squat, you can also use another method, which is not to have any chance for them to react.

Directly use the two ultimates to go up to a second kill, even if the nightmare is against it at this time, there is no point, because when the nightmare turns off the lights in the morning, there is a small field of vision around him.

But at this time, the stone man has already gone up, which means that the two of them are already by Kenan's side, which means that they can continue to make a big output.

In fact, the stone man is a more one-size-fits-all hero, and he will choose this hero when he won't be on the list in the past.

However, the magnificence of this hero is actually not as good as that of Mondo, because this guy is very lacking in blue in the early stage, which means that if you encounter a long-ranged time. When you can only use Q skills to replenish troops, it is particularly uncomfortable for you to ride a bicycle without blue.

Therefore, if the opposite side is a physical damage, the first thing to make up an ice fist is actually a better effect, first of all, it can provide a little mana to yourself, and secondly, it can make the ability of the person you are chasing stronger against.

Therefore, if the pressure of the stone man in the early stage is not particularly great and the person opposite is a physical injury, it is indeed possible to make up for the equipment of Ice Fist.

But if it's a melee on the other side, you will generally get out of the sun at first sight when you play Stone Man, whether you are a melee mage or a melee warrior, this equipment is a better choice.

After all, the opposite side is also melee, which can effectively hit an output, and the cauterizing effect of this sun flame is also relatively considerable.

Speaking of this sun, I have to talk about an ancient version of the sun, and the burning effect of the yen equipment in the ancient times was not the only passive, that is to say, if you produce six pieces of sunfire, his damage can be stacked, and this damage is actually particularly terrifying.

It's sometimes hard for us to imagine what the damage of six pieces of Sun Flame is, which is equivalent to an ordinary attack per second of the shooter, which means that the late shooter is an attack speed of 1.0, and this stone man is almost this output if he is out of Sun Flame.

And it's the equivalent of a hurricane shooter, because the cauterizing effect comes by range, not by the individual.

However, the Quanzhou company will definitely not allow this, according to them, it is an unhealthy way, and sometimes this is changed to the only passive.

Six pieces of Sun Flame actually increases the armor value second, and another point is also quite terrifying, that is, the health he provides is not low.

In fact, after the stone man finishes the three pieces of equipment such as Sun Flame Excitement or Ice Fist, he can basically fight in a group, and the damage he carries is not low, and the most important output is not low.

Otherwise, this is not a hero that I used to be, once I was forced to play a single when I had no position, and I didn't dream of it at that time, I basically chose this hero.

It was a difficult time to be on the front line, I was once beaten by a Teemo, but now I don't think it's a shame.

Now it seems that it is normal to be beaten by a Teemo, but at that time I didn't play Teemo according to a normal routine.

Although I also chose to make a magic resistance equipment, my early thinking was wrong, that is, I used Q skills to consume it.

Because my full download volume is not high, and I still have Q skills to consume him, it will cause me to have no skills to make up for some ranged soldiers, and then add the gap between the mending knives and the accumulation of equipment, and slowly start to beat him again.

The mistake of thinking at that time caused me to be slowly suppressed by him.

Another point is that when my Q skill Q is on him, this blood exchange is actually not earned, because although my Q skill is bound to hit, this skill still has a big disadvantage, that is, the distance is short.

Basically, I can q it, he can definitely q me, and then he attacks me a few times with his acceleration normal, and my passive can't withstand his damage at all.

So after going back and forth, he still has a lot of blue, but my blue amount is not much, the most important thing is that without the amount of blue, it is difficult for the stone man to make up for the soldiers under a defense tower.

And when facing Teemo, I chose to be excited, this equipment is not supported by blue, so for a long time I was extremely short of blue.

Then I slowly understood that I couldn't use Q skills to consume it, but I should slowly replenish the troops, but when this idea came out, it was actually too late, and the gap in equipment was already obvious.

In fact, I can't catch up with his consumption with the equipment of magic resistance, and once I can't clear the creeps under the tower, the health of my defense tower will slowly be consumed for him.

Sometimes he'd even hit towers at my permeability, and our junglers weren't willing to come over, so it led to a situation where I was blown up by this little Timo.

At that time, such a thing was really unspeakable, really ugly, and it was blown up by a little Timo.

In fact, there is a reason why the jungler is reluctant to catch it, especially after reaching level six, this little Teemo will have a lot of mushrooms in the river, just to prevent the gank of the jungler.

If this mushroom is very deep, Teemo can see our jungler from a great distance.

In the early days, the damage of this mushroom was not very high, but this mushroom is quite disgusting, which is why Teemo had to die if he could lose a team fight.

If the jungler belt is scanned, it may not be able to control the field of view in a large area, which means that the opposite jungler is likely to choose to invade.

So when Teemo is on the road, he doesn't want to do gank, which is easy to understand, but if it were me, I might not want to go.

So when facing the problem, you don't need to be afraid, the further back it goes, the smaller its role will be, as long as you move forward, don't worry about the peace of mind when the reinforcement is consumed by her a few times, then at this time you may be in a huge counterattack between six and seven.

Usually when he hits her once, he will become much more honest, and he will never come up to attack you again.

In fact, there are very few of these summoners who play Timo above the diamond, gold to be exact.

Because the role of this hero in team battles is really small, if he has to play a certain role, he can only fight a positional battle like a big head, that is, plant mushrooms around.

If there is a lot of this mushroom, it can also deal a good damage, because this mushroom is not actually a single damage, but also a range of damage.

But this situation is rare, if it weren't for the equipment crushing, Teemo would generally not choose to fight team battles, just that little bit of ordinary attack output is really not enough to see, and it's okay to fight a shooter or some crispy.

But a meat tale will make him feel hopeless.

It's not that there is no way to play Teemo in the high-end game, of course there is, but many ways need to be neutralized.

The way to play Teemo is basically a single belt, and if you want to play a huge advantage online, it is okay to have a band ignite, but most Teemo should choose to bring a teleport.

Bring out the advantages of his single belt, and then grow mushrooms in the wild area, basically these mushrooms are equivalent to eyes, or an eye for several minutes.

Basically, you can see it more or less when you come from the other side to catch it, but if you send two or three people to catch it, it will definitely take time and effort.

For more or less being able to do something, this Teemo's usefulness is here, and the rest of the words are really not of much use, and his passive feeling really doesn't have much effect in team battles.

Passive is stealth.,It's also more in line with the characteristics of this hero.,In fact, when I first came into contact with this hero, most of them wanted to fight in a cheap way.。

It's to quickly come to the line and then stealth, and wait until the opposite side is replenishing the troops! It annoys the other party very much.,Even said that if you bring it on fire, you might be able to force out a flash of the other party.。

If you can really force out a flash of the other party, of course, it is very profitable, how long is a lit CD, how long is the time of a flash CD, and if there is a time difference, it is possible for Teemo to kill alone.

The words of the hero Teemo don't really have too many natural enemies, I'm talking about the line.

The class usually doesn't go to the kind of mage that consumes a lot of money, I mean the kind of big-eyed monster, wandering, or fox, that mage generally doesn't go.

So this also leads to the fact that he doesn't have much natural enemies on the way to the top order, and the collections on the top list are basically ordinary attack types.

For example, Nar and Jace, these two heroes still need to rely on normal attacks to deal damage, anyway, this Teemo is to restrain all heroes who use normal attacks to deal damage.

This is why if there is a Juggernaut and encounters Teemo, it is likely that he will choose a mercury ribbon, or when the other party has a Barbarian King.

If these two heroes don't have normal attacks, they're basically nullified, so these two heroes usually choose to have a mercury ribbon, if they encounter a Timo.

When Juggernaut's normal attack can't come out, there is no way to reduce the CD of his Q skill, that is, the time to increase the attack speed of five seconds will be wasted at once.

But if there is a mercury ribbon, the result will be completely different, and after blinding, directly press the mercury ribbon and continue to cut it.

I don't think there's any other skill that can disable people's normal attacks so far, and it seems that it's only Teemo.

So Timo has a special hand when he hits a single crocodile, the hero of the crocodile is actually very strong, where is the strength, that is, what is he full of, when his anger reaches a hundred, his W skill can attack three times, and then it can also cause a strong stun time.

This is a big buggy skill, of course, in the early stages.

Because the crocodile's basic attack power is not low in the early stage, of course, you know what it means when you can attack three times normally, which means that just one w can make your half blood gone.

Of course, the crocodile's w and other skills that enhance normal attacks are no exception, that is, this w can reset normal attacks.

In other words, the crocodile's combo can use four normal attacks in an instant, and then add a red anger Q skill, which can deal a huge damage, and a very powerful health regeneration.

But when you meet Teemo, this set is completely inadequate, of course, you meet a Teemo who is very familiar with crocodiles, and if you are not familiar with the hero of crocodiles, it is useless.

When the crocodile starts to w, there is a clear mark, that is, there is something similar to a mosaic in front of the crocodile, and once this kind of thing appears, the moment he uses a normal attack, he has no way to blind him.

Of course, a well-played crocodile is very fast, so it may also cause a stun to Timo's Q skill before it arrives.

But once blinded by this little Timo, not only does the fish's ordinary attack have no effect, but this crocodile has no way to cause stun, and there is no way to cause stun, and the damage that his output can do is also limited.

Therefore, the hero of Teemo should be more restrained from crocodiles, and once someone chooses a crocodile, it will definitely be a headache if he sees Teemo on the other side.

Speaking of which, this can disable normal attacks, I suddenly remembered that there is another way, but there is no way to unravel this way.

People are taking the initiative to a skill.,This hero is a weapon.,A skill of the weapon is immune to all ordinary attacks.,And can reduce the damage of your other skills.。

This shows why sometimes weapons would rather shoot their ultimate than shoot this storm counterattack first.

The reason is simple, sometimes this skill is far better than the ultimate.

Some people say that it's easy to fight with weapons too much, but in fact, I think it's average, and even say that sometimes weapons are better to fight crocodiles.

Because the weapon is basically a safe replenishment and then a backhand can be used, when the crocodile comes up with a backhand set of skills on the crocodile's body, he is also quite uncomfortable.

The very simple principle is that the crocodile's storm counterattack can also be immune to this crocodile's W skill, so that he has no way to cause stun and stun his backhand, and he can also hit a good damage.

So I think it's okay, they think it's okay because the crocodile is an early hero, and then the weapon is a hero that needs to rely on equipment, maybe they just combined such factors to find that the crocodile may be good at fighting weapons.

Actually, I've also hit crocodiles with weapons.,I feel okay.,Anyway, the weapon definitely can't take the initiative to go up and fight the crocodile.,The crocodile is a dad in the early stage.,It's irrefutable.,It's true that it's a dad.。

If you take the initiative to provoke your dad, the consequences will be serious, but when he comes up and hits you, you can calm down and then call your mom, which may be much better.

Basically, the crocodile's W skill and the weapon's Counter Storm should be about the same CD, if you think that the W skill on the opposite side is good, your Counter Storm is not good, then you can evacuate a little back.

Then when he came up, I watched him drive a W counterattack storm up, even if he used the displacement skill to go back, you can also use the displacement skill to rush directly to his face to cause a stun normal attack and then connect to the w normal attack, and the damage caused is also considerable.

But one thing is very important, just take it when you see it, and when this set of skills is used, don't keep running, just go back, because when your mom comes, it doesn't mean that you can kill your dad.

The most is that your dad is scared away by your mom, and you can't be too provocative.

Returning to the original topic is that the stone man is a panacea, but the degree of panacea is not so great, and the role of team battles is still great when the equipment comes out.

But if you want to play this hero, you have to be a little more obscene in the early stage.

There should be some economic disparity between us, and the main reason is the gap in the mending knife, because after the shooter was taken a head, Obama's equipment was a little suppressed, so our shooter was pressed some mending the knife.

Although I also pressed some mending knives, it was basically the same as the shooter, which means that the two of us are also in a complementary state, so there shouldn't be much difference.

So this economic episode comes from the first drop of blood and the gap between the top single and the knife.

The stone man on the list is actually quite sad, because he is facing a Kenan, and if he doesn't play particularly well, he is easy to be killed by Kenan alone.

Kennan, a hero, was really the father of most people in the early stage, the reason is that he was equivalent to a demonic martial arts double cultivator in the early stage, and the damage of his ordinary attacks was not low, and when the attack speed did not rise in the early stage, it was equivalent to a shooter.

In addition, the base damage of his skills is also relatively high, and he can also cause stun, which is particularly comfortable with the jungler.

There is no way to resist the little passivity of the stone man, and the most critical thing is that Kenan doesn't need Lan Liang yet.

This point will definitely make the stone man miserable, but fortunately, our Li Yong has practiced a lot of anti-pressure skills recently, so it shouldn't be much of a problem to withstand the pressure.

But there is one thing we feel we may have to give up, that is, the blood consumption of the defense tower on the road is really not particularly low, and a lot of blood has been consumed.

However, at this time, it has reached a very sensitive point in time, that is, our werewolves are already level six, and our werewolves are developing better.

He reached the sixth level first.

Our jungler decided to ease the pressure on the road, but by the time our werewolf reached level six, the entire line was almost on alert!

The lines are not particularly deep, and a lot of vision is made into the river, which can be detected through our eyes.

It was clear that they could see that this werewolf was a big threat to the line and needed a special guard.

However, our jungler will still have a chance to get close to the heroes in the lane, especially the two wings, and there are other ways to do this.

For example, this wave, a large wave of troops on the road has entered our tower, but when this large wave of troops pushes over, it means that the next wave or two of troops will push back.

After pushing back, our werewolves will have a chance, because then there will be no vision near our towers on the other side, and of course, if the grass on the opposite side of us has a vision, there is no way.

However, in the last wave, the stone man deliberately bought a dignity and put it there for a long time, and this Kenan didn't get rid of it, so of course this is a good opportunity.

Our werewolves are very patient and wait for the line to pass, because the defense tower and the stone man are quick to clear the troops, which also leads to the rapid launch of this defense tower in the next wave of troops.

After this wave of troops was launched, Kenan still only used Q skills to collect troops, and it can be seen that this Kenan is quite cautious, I guess he has already touched the flash in his hand, and is ready to press this flash at any time.

As a pro, it should be relatively easy to dodge the ultimate move of the stone man, but it is almost impossible to dodge the werewolf to hit it.

At this moment, it seemed that when he was going forward to make up for this rear platoon with this Q skill, he suddenly found that he had been suppressed and couldn't move at all.

But at that moment, it was dark!

Lao Tzu knew that this would be the case! This nightmare is really behind!

But I can see Li Yong's anger, it seems that Li Yong has been holding back online for a long time, because the moment this werewolf finished using his ultimate to control Kennan, his ultimate move also followed directly.

It doesn't matter if you can hit these two people, because this nightmare must be trying to move this werewolf away with fear, and if the stone can use a big move at this time, it is likely to be able to knock two people away.

But at this time, people don't care, his current idea is to get rid of this Kenan in seconds, and when Kenan is knocked into the air, he can connect a complete set of skills, ordinary attack plus a skill plus w ordinary attack a Q skill.

The base damage of these skills is not low, even if this stone man does not have a strong equipment, plus the damage of the werewolf is that this Kenan was directly killed in seconds.

And the other party's nightmare didn't choose to fly over after seeing this situation, because the nightmare's ultimate move has two stages, the first ultimate is dark, and the second ultimate is to break through.

Therefore, the nightmare person actually wants to use the ultimate to save his life or use the ultimate to break through, and it can also be used to protect his teammates.

So the release of this ultimate, basically, depends on the situation.

Once Nightmare sees such a situation, it is basically not going to go up, but it is not certain where he is in the exact position.

But I guess he's probably near the triangle grass, where the backsquat is a good position.

Nightmares, a hero jungler, is actually no way to prevent it, and the range of his ultimate move is actually not small, which means that he doesn't need to stand on the grass of the river at all, the grass on his own line, and so on and so on such a very close position to gank the person opposite him, he only needs to stand in his own wild area to catch the person opposite.

This is why if it is said that a nightmare is invincible to defend against the field, there is no way to prevent it, or there is no good way to prevent it gannk, and the moment his ultimate comes into contact with the opposite person, the damage is actually quite high.

Therefore, the nightmare's kill line is also quite high, which means that a nightmare with pure output is definitely a huge threat to the back row.

But this time the gank is actually a very perfect gank, why is it said to be a perfect one?

There are three reasons, the first reason is to ensure the development of our stone man, and then let the blood volume of the defense tower behind us not continue to fall, because when the stone man gets this head, he can go back and have a lot of equipment options.

But no matter what kind of gear he chooses, the pressure on him will become very small, very small.

The second reason is very simple, that is, to get a head to increase some of our economy, originally our economy should have a little disadvantage, just look at the mending knife, although it is not big, it is about 1,000.

But that's a disadvantage after all, but it should be shortened to 200 to 300 now, which is almost completely acceptable.

So I think it's still a little bit better than our squad, that's another point.

The third point is actually the most crucial point, that is, our werewolf wasted a big move of the nightmare on the other side, and we were actually in a terrified situation online.

But when Nightmare unleashes this ultimate, we have at least two minutes or so to catch our breath, and of course the other side has two minutes to catch our breath.

But the werewolf's ultimate move on our side has already gotten a head.

So this is another point that is more perfect, and the combination of these three points is that the gank person of this ronin's choice is actually very right.

In fact, in other words, wherever the werewolf goes to catch people, there should be a good result, although there is a classic saying in the passerby bureau that the help is not inferior, but if the heroes on the line can cooperate with the jungler to have a good killing effect, this is an exception.

So this situation is definitely a very normal situation.

Of course, if you catch the clockwork in the middle of the lane, of course, it's also very good, and to curb the development of the middle clockwork, that's basically in the middle of the year when I'm a dad.

Actually, I wanted to use this werewolf's ultimate to scare the clockwork on the other side, but I didn't expect the werewolf to use the ultimate first, but I scared the clockwork a lot.

At least it scared him for nearly a minute.

Didn't he pretend that there was someone behind him when he first started?

When the werewolf reached level six, I pretended that there was someone behind me, but he forcibly came over and suppressed me.

I'm different, my approach is to control the line this way.

Not using skills to clean up the line but using his own ordinary attacks to clean up, is to create an illusion for him to push the line over, let you come too, my werewolf behind.

So this clockwork was at least ten knives less in the first minute, anyway, this guy is not light, and he has never dared to come forward.

Using this skill from afar, it is actually more than enough to control the line of troops for one minute, and if you control it well, it is possible to have two minutes left.

However, it is not very easy to control the line of troops in the middle lane, because the road of controlling the line is very short, which makes it easy for soldiers to enter the tower.

Once you enter the tower, there is no way to control this lane, it is not within your control at all, so it is not particularly realistic to control the lane in the middle.

In other words, there is no way to control the line for a long time, but it is still possible to do it for a shorter time, such as one minute.

Try to make your rear line-up those normal attacks ineffective, so that the lane can be controlled for a long, long time.

The clockwork on the other side looked at this situation and thought that there was a werewolf behind him, although his vision did not see where the werewolf was, but I created a feeling for him that the werewolf was behind me.

So he missed ten cuts.

Really, do you think you can act, Lao Tzu can also act, okay, if Lao Tzu didn't go to college, maybe he would be an actor.

also compare acting skills with me, I want to see who is better at our acting skills.

In fact, playing League of Legends is like this, true and false, true, true, but don't think that you can always think that you can fool others or that you can see through other people's tricks, because that sentence is really true.

Heaven has reincarnation, and one day you will be tricked by others, so don't think that you can perfectly control the whole scene.

Playing League of Legends only needs one day to make yourself very strong, that is, don't be led by the nose by the other side, and you always have to find a way to deal with a big routine on the other side, instead of letting the other party go on according to his ideas all the time.

The simplest way to say this is to break the opposite script.

In fact, a good League of Legends player has a script, that is, when and what kind of things happen, where do I go.

If you can understand the other person's thoughts and know them well in advance, then breaking his script can often break his initiative.

And as a positive League of Legends player, you definitely need to have a script, of course, this script can't be too fixed, that is, you can't always use one way.

For example, take one thing as an example, it's jungler, the jungler is the most difficult way, anyway, until now I don't have the jungler routine of perfect numbers.

In other words, I'm not going to jungle until now.

But if you usually play rank in the passerby bureau, you can still make do with this jungler, but I don't usually play heroes like the blind monk.

Because my own operation ability is not strong, and I am not particularly familiar with the jungler, then I can't use such a hero.

The hero I like is the ability to drive the rhythm in the early stage, and the ability to take the initiative to find opportunities in the later stage, such a hero is similar to a wine barrel.

Anyway, I know he can't always follow a script, because the jungler in the passerby bureau is basically such a routine now, let the duo help pull the wild monster, and then go to fight another buff.

If you don't want to catch the middle lane or don't catch the upper road, it's basically such a routine, if you change the routine. If you can, you'll break your rhythm.

If you are basically such a routine, and the other side understands that you must be such a routine, then it is simply too easy for the other party to guard against you.

Therefore, the jungler route still needs to be a little more varied, and even if you can lose a buff in the early stage but can help the line have a huge advantage, such a deal is definitely worth it.

Jungler riders can't start by a buff, which feels like it's too monotonous and easy for others to spot your route.

We can even start with the buff on the opposite side, of course, the premise is to do a good job of vision, such a start can easily lead to a situation, the opposite side is a little confused when caught, once such a situation occurs, they have no way to predict your route.

So if you want to play League of Legends well, you can't follow the same old method, the times are updating, and League of Legends is of course updating, and there may be a period of time when you will find that this routine doesn't work at all.

Then you are faced with two choices, either give up League of Legends or find a new way.

I believe that most players are still willing to learn, and they also have a strong sense of pride when they learn a new routine.

And this strong sense of pride can bring them some of the pleasure of the game, so it is actually quite right to say that the changes in League of Legends at this time give up some players.

This player actually means the wall grass, if there is a more fun game tomorrow, they will definitely choose another game, and the average League of Legends loyal players are very happy about the change.

Some players are unhappy about change, of course, the kind of unjustifiably unhappy, basically this kind of player will not be valued by the company, and will not listen to their opinions.

I remember a time when one of the best Chinese players played games in Hanbok, and she was more unhappy with some changes in the company, and felt that some changes hurt her fundamentals, so she wanted to protest.

That's people's way of protesting is not typing on the keyboard and spraying people, the way people protest is to hit this hanbok to the top of the rankings, and then change their name to a protest name.

It seems that this suggestion has really been accepted by Riot, and it has exploded all at once, and it feels like it has given China a face.

I think this is the most awesome way to protest.,Spraying people with a keyboard in the back is basically no sense of existence in reality.,Holding a keyboard to find a sense of existence is the most disgusting person.。

Anyway, I hate scolding at every turn, and if you have anything to say, it's okay to be reasonable, but you have to use the way of abuse to solve the problem.

Don't worry, that will never solve the problem, you scold others and ask others to change, if it were you, would you do this?

Actually, I also like to comment on some content online, and I also have likes and dislikes.

But once, when I commented on the Internet, I commented on the reason why I don't like this thing very much, but the other party scolded me directly, and the scolding was very ugly.

It made me furious again, not of course, but of course there was a kind of sneering contempt.

Then I went to him with a nearly 1,000-word truth, without a single dirty word, indicating my attitude, and then showing the reasons why I didn't like it, specific to every number and every event.

But one thing that didn't make me think of it was that the number of likes I instantly rose by 200, and the next day it rose directly to 2000, and then a lot of people who wanted to oppose me also said below, there is indeed some truth.

So, if you want to refute my reasoning, maybe I will agree, but if you scold me, you will embarrass yourself, do you say it is necessary?

He didn't dare to reply to me himself, and now I even wonder if he is a water army, just to scold for the sake of scolding, just to refute for the sake of refutation.

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