Chapter 231: Before the curtain call

The telekinesis is something that cannot be constructed. Its nature, which is closer to the "thought experiments" and "ideal conditions" in physics, is something that cannot be reproduced in reality.

An indicative machine about undecidable issues could not have been constructed from the start.

This is just using a utopian concept to figure out a possible concept to get a real result.

It's just that this result sounds desperate.

"Isn't there even the imaginary Great Dao Sacred Sound that can complete this proof?" Feng Luoyi smiled reluctantly, and there was a loss in his eyes that could not be concealed.

Even if you open the strongest plug-in in the human imagination, it is impossible to bypass the boundary drawn by this "self-referential".

Turing took a sip of tea and whispered, "I don't think we have to go in this direction anymore......"

"Listening to the concept of 'Great Dao Sacred Sound' can't be explained......" Feng Luoyi seemed to be haunted and repeated again.

"Teacher, in fact, it is also possible that our imagination limits our means. Wang Qi said: "The idea of a Turing real person is indeed extremely imaginative. However, the 'imagination' of the Turing man is still deduced from his 'experience' - it is deduced from the experience of the 'poor'. Perhaps, there is a way to bypass self-referentiality, but our minds are not aware of it at the moment. ”

Feng Luoyi's tone carried a hint of decadence: "Infinite and poor...... Once we are involved in 'arbitrary' and 'infinite', we will not be able to move an inch...... Is there infinity to poverty, is that the limit of our understanding? Or is that bastard right? There is no infinity in the world?"

In the universe, the mass of matter is infinite - otherwise. According to the nature of the infinite extension of gravity, the gravitational force of every point in an infinite universe is infinite.

If the total mass is infinite, then the number of elementary particles in the universe is also infinite.

There also seems to be nothing in the universe as a whole that needs to be counted infinitely.

Human beings have never known "infinity", and all the concepts of "infinity" are actually deduced from the "infinity" that human beings recognize.

Therefore. There was also a school of mathematicians who strongly demanded that the concept of "infinity" be removed from the canon. Infinity is just a "metaphor", a "description", and does not really exist in the world.

As for those who study the problem of "infinity", they are pure idiots.

Wang Qi shook his head and retorted: "In the real world, is there an endless boundary line?" He twisted a tea leaf from the teacup: "What is the actual circumference of this leaf?" He conjured up a sea chart: "How long is the coastline of the western frontier of Shenzhou?"

This is the infinity that actually exists.

The edge of the leaf of any plant has serrations present. On top of those sawtooth, there are even finer jagged teeth. Of course, this "subtlety" will not last forever. But actually, anything. It will always be made up of a more basic structure.

The length of the coastline is the same.

Like the blades, the coastline is folded by a fieldless line at the top.

In the realm of nature, there are no standard 1D line segments or standard 2D shapes that occur strictly according to geometry.

This kind of fractal dimension between one and two dimensions is more numerous.

This is the "infinity" that actually exists.

The approach of the counter is too extreme. Abolish the practice of infinity, and wait for it to be a finger of arithmetic.

Feng Luoyi's expression was still a little depressed: "Even if it is true as you said, our cognition limits us, and the possibility of bypassing this restriction is beyond our cognition...... What can we do?"

"My life has an end, and there is no end to it. There is no end to it. It's gone. ”

After all, human cognition is limited. But the mysteries seem to be endless. Chase infinite cognition with a poor life. It's sad in itself.

Especially, when you are pursuing something that is outside of your knowledge from the beginning, it is impossible for you to know it in the first place.

It's like it's meant to be.

Nothing could be sadder than this for the seeker.

Wang Qi's expression remained unshaken. He has been baptized by logic and philosophy on earth, and his heart has long been resolute: "No, teacher. There is no such thing as 'unknowable' in this world, only 'unconfirmable'. ”

In this world, there is no such thing as "unknowable", only "unknowable".

This seems to be the point of a worldview, but for Wang Qi. This direction is the foundation of his ambition.

"Not yet knowable" means that sooner or later it will be able to become "knowable" or even "known".

"This situation can only show that our arithmetic is still very primitive and still in its infancy. Even the logic inherent in the laws of nature is not fully understood. We still have a long way to go. ”

A hint of curiosity flashed in Turing's eyes: "If you want to open the door, you have to get the key, but the key is on the other end of the door." To get the key, you have to open the door...... Even so, do you believe we can break the game?"

"There doesn't have to be just one door, there's not necessarily just one key. It's just that our team's 'door' hasn't been explored yet, so naturally we can't find the 'key'. ”

"Sounds more like faith. ”

Wang Qi smiled: "I believe this." ”

Feng Luoyi's vacillation only lasted for a short time. Soon he swept away all the decadence in his eyes and regained his composure: "Yes, I understand...... It's just a pity. Originally, I wanted to find a way out of the game, and then show it to Lord Hemen, so that he would not give up hope......"

It's a pity that this field, it seems, the more you discover, the more desperate it becomes. At the beginning, Wang Qi just drew a vague line, telling everyone that outside this line, everything is unpredictable. This time, the Turing killed almost all the ideas of "crossing the line".

There is no road ahead.

Turing shook his head: "Mr. Yuehan doesn't have to blame himself. It's not your fault either...... If you want to blame, you can only blame me for being responsible. ”

Feng Luoyi entrusted Turing Zhenren, who is the most talented in this area, a few months ago, to find a way to break the game.

"There is a burden to ...... Less. Feng Luoyi's tone was flat: "The logic is like this, such as the Tao is constant, not for Shengchang, not for the devil." You're just discovering."

Turing asked, "What ...... now?"

"It can't be delayed any longer. Feng Luoyi closed his eyes, "Incomplete and undecidable, I have been pressing here for almost half a year." Half a year! Still being dragged down the path of your veto by Lord Hemen...... This is absolutely not a no-go. ”

"It's a bit unforgiving, though. But that's what we are, there's no way we can stop for the sake of one person. ”

"Especially...... We now have a new calculator structure to promote. One more day for the two of you to press your papers here, and the new research in the field of calculators and ten thousand immortal illusions will start one day later. ”

"But that's not all!" Turing Zhenren and Lord Ximen are not very familiar with each other, and they do not have Feng Luoyi's emotions. There was still a bit of excitement in his expression: "I still have some thoughts in a hazy way. I feel. We are about to step out of the category of 23 questions and go to a new field. ”

Logic and even the basis of people's cognition will change from now on!

"I get it. I'll arrange these things, so go back first...... I still have to plan well, and I need to be alone and quiet. ”

Wang Qi nodded and was about to leave. Turing stopped him: "Little friend, I still have a few ideas here that I want to talk to you about." You can go through the Ten Thousand Immortals Illusion Realm and I'll be there. ”

Wang Qi would not refuse to communicate with an arithmetic of this level. He nodded and left first. Then the Turing real person also left in the method of traveling through the universe.

Feng Luoyi sat quietly for a while, and suddenly said, "Since you're here, why don't you show up?"

Pang Jialai, the soath, seemed to be squeezed out of a small hole with some kind of bone shrinking skill, and his body was extremely awkward. It took a while for his avatar to return to normal. He snorted: "'Stepping out of the category of twenty-three questions'? I've never been in the category of the twenty-three questions of the Narauszi. ”

At the beginning, I didn't know if it was the difference in concept or private feelings, but when the master listed the twenty-three questions, he intentionally or unintentionally ignored the areas in which the master made the greatest contribution.

Among those areas, there is also a broad category of "topology".

Feng Luoyi didn't answer the other party's words. Instead, he snorted coldly: "It's not good to listen to the corner, it will lose your demeanor." ”

"Manners are made to show the waste. I don't think it's necessary. Arithmetic Jun didn't seem to deny it at all: "Furthermore." I wanted to listen openly, but your illusion wall is too strong, I can only force it in-the old man just doesn't like your logic, and it's not that he doesn't understand, this wall can't prevent me......"

Feng Luoyi didn't wonder why Shujun was able to "force" into here, and he didn't ask him how much he had heard. Instead, he asked directly, "What do you think?"

"Nothing special in mind. Originally, I was just here to urge you, so that you can quickly disclose that the incompleteness is not decidable. Since you've made a decision, then when I didn't say it. "Count Jun Pang Jialai didn't hide his attitude at all. He doesn't care about the incomplete series of things, he only cares about when things like the arithmetic lord Hebache will be launched in the arithmetic world, and "his world" is pure: "I think." You have invested too much in this matter, and we recommended you to deal with the general affairs of Shenzhou at the beginning, but it was not for you to waste the resources of the Ten Thousand Methods Sect on your own selfishness to help Xi Baiche's idiot bypass the obstacle of knowledge. ”

"You don't need to teach you about it. Feng Luoyi's eyes did not show anger, and responded: "The reason why I asked you to come back is just to make you a deterrent. As for the specific things, you don't need to handle them. ”

"Aha. Counting Jun laughed loudly: "Old-timer...... But I don't think so. By the way, I take back the front, and I don't think you're useless. ”

"It can be regarded as inspired by you, I have made another discovery in arithmetic! Seeing the miserable appearance of Xi Baiche, the more I feel that I cannot be deceived by prejudices, and I cannot be deceived by the law. I've been feeling like I'm about to break through again...... I won't say anything, I'll go back and continue my research. ”

After the counter left, the small quiet room was silent again. After a while, Feng Luoyi's fingers swiped in the air for a moment: "Let's start......

The curtain call ceremony of the heyday of the Lord and the Geting School began. (To be continued.) )