724 Young man, you seem to have a problem with the variable sweep wing
"Yes, our brigade needs to conduct exercises to find out where we are lacking. Tang Xin nodded and said, "The special operations brigade is divided into two parts, one imitating the Soviet army and the other imitating the U.S....... military."
Tang Xin introduced the situation.
At present, the most powerful countries in the world are the Soviet Union and the United States.
The Soviet Union's combat styles such as the torrent of steel, the combined assault of large-depth armor, made the whole world tremble.
Although the US military is not as frightening as the Soviet Army, which held the "West-81" military exercise, the US military has a very high degree of informationization of its equipment, especially over-the-horizon strikes, which has made some far-sighted military leaders feel that the combat effectiveness of the US Army is stronger than that of the Soviet Army at the same scale.
That's why there was a special brigade.
This is a unit that is generally trained according to the model of the Soviet army and generally trained according to the model of the American army.
Xie Kai didn't expect that things had developed to the current level.
"The special operations brigade has advanced tanks?" Xie Kai asked.
"359 tanks and 363 armored vehicles, as well as long-range artillery and other support; individual soldiers are equipped with avant-garde anti-aircraft missiles, Tianjian anti-tank missiles......" He Chao said proudly, "This is a unit that imitates the Soviet army......
"The Black Hawk helicopter was introduced by the United States, and if you add the F-14, you can have an exercise......"
"The air force against the army?" Xie Kai didn't understand their thoughts, "The air power of the Soviet army should not be underestimated, and the Su-27 and other fighters equipped with it are no worse than those of the US army." ”
"It's too big, we can't afford it. Yang Bin shook his head and said, "Step by step inspection." Don't you have Persian pilots for your F-14s? They were trained by the U.S. military. ”
"Ahem!ahem!" Zheng Yucheng saw that Xie Kai was chatting speculatively with the other party, and hurriedly coughed to remind Xie Kai.
Calling Xie Kai to come, it's because they can't refuse, Xie Kai is young, and if he refuses, he refuses, and he won't lose face, right?
Young man, should be forgiven.
Xie Kai didn't know the fate, and in desperation, Zheng Yucheng and the others asked Tang Xin and them to wait first, and they discussed it later.
In particular, three F-14s do not play a big role.
It's obviously a prevarication.
"Do you know that they used the latest artillery shells we have researched in this live-fire exercise?" Wang Guilin asked Xie Kai.
Xie Kai shook his head, indicating that he didn't know. "That's a good thing. The more they consume, the more we can sell. ”
"It's a good fart, it's all at cost! Even we have to subsidize them, and we lose hundreds for every shell fired. Zheng Yucheng complained.
Xie Kai really didn't know that there was such a thing.
No one explained to him, obviously, what kind of deal did this old guy have behind his superiors, and Xie Kai didn't bother to ask.
"Actually, I don't think it will cost much. Although there is a lot of actual combat data feedback from the Iraqi side, not all weapons and equipment can be fully fed back. Their use of advanced weapons is simply too low. "When it comes to the Iran-Iraq war, Xie Kai has to vomit.
Both countries were equipped with the most advanced equipment in the world, and then fought a low-level war.
"It's easy to say. An exercise, at least tens of millions are gone. Yang Qian complained, and then complained to Zheng Yucheng and them, "It's not that you guys are to blame, I had to agree at the beginning, so they would do live-fire exercises every once in a while......"
"......" Xie Kai was speechless.
They won't explain it to themselves.
He was sure that Zheng Yucheng and others originally negotiated conditions with their superiors and felt that they had taken advantage, but now they found out that they had suffered a loss.
The special operations brigade is the top of the whole army in China, and it is composed of outstanding grassroots backbone soldiers and officers.
Otherwise, how could the superiors be willing to give bullets and shells to train them?
"Those F-14s, we also have to train pilots, and they usually have to fly, promise them, there should be no problem, right?" Xie Kai didn't understand why these old guys didn't agree.
It's going to cost money anyway.
Now there is no money on the Navy's side, and the funds have to be borne by 404, all of which are counted in the funds of the aircraft carrier project.
"I'm afraid that they are conducting exercises every day! You have to know that the Qilian Mountains are very large! Their exercises are not near the base, and they run several hundred kilometers at every turn. Zheng Yucheng cried with a sad face.
Xie Kai didn't believe that even if his superiors paid attention to it, they couldn't let them engage in live-fire drills every day.
Otherwise, the ammunition consumption of this brigade in a year will exceed that of a group army, and the military will have to be brought down.
"They say that the US army and infantry squad can call for battalion-level artillery support, and they also learn to do it, since two months ago, after the establishment of the special operations brigade was completed, they have conducted several exercises, and all the troops participated in that exercise, if we didn't agree, the ground red flag missiles would have allowed them to fire several rounds...... Wang Guilin's words were absolutely credible.
Xie Kai was dumbfounded.
This is a special operations brigade?
It's completely a local tyrant army, what do the superiors think!
Under the circumstance that military spending is in short supply and the equipment of the troops is in urgent need of upgrading, the consumption of such a unit is very terrifying.
"Actually, you can't blame them. Abroad in wars, it has always been like this. Back then, on the North Korean side, the artillery fire of the US imperialists was not blown......" Zheng Yucheng sighed.
He was on the Korean battlefield and was equipped with advanced US military and powerful firepower, which made all those who participated in the War to Resist US Aggression and Aid Korea still fresh in their memories.
"The head of the unit wished that they would attack as much firepower as possible. After all, this is the largest Blue Army unit in the country. Wang Guilin also shook his head to express helplessness. And Tang Xin has drunk foreign ink in the United States. ”
Xie Kai has never been to the headquarters of the special operations brigade except for one trip to the headquarters of the special operations brigade at the beginning.
The specifics of the special operations brigade, he did not understand at all.
He didn't pay so much attention to the affairs of the troops, and it was their national defense science and technology workers who came up with advanced weapons and equipment.
"These are not important, we should support them. No matter how advanced the equipment of foreign countries is, what will we get? It is the most appropriate to develop weapons and equipment that suit the combat mode and usage habits of our troops. Xie Kai said, "The combat performance of the F-14 is not necessarily suitable for our troops and national conditions, and it definitely needs to be modified......
No matter how advanced it is, it is not suitable for the needs of national defense, it is useless.
Just like the Soviet Union has a lot of black technology, any kind of it will be amazing, but many things end up at the drawing stage.
Again, Soviet weapons were designed in two modes, one with ultra-high performance in the top-of-the-line configuration, and the other with a simplified version that was inexpensive and retained only the usual features.
For no other reason, in order to break out again in war, a huge number of troops can be equipped.
The PLA can't do that.
The size of the army is too large, so since 85 years, the country has been implementing the strategy of one million disarmament, and the size of the army has been reduced from the original 4 million to 3 million.
The purpose is to use the saved military expenses to improve the troops' weaponry.
By 1985, the People's Liberation Army (PLA) had spent 19.1 billion yuan, about $6.7 billion, accounting for only 2 percent of the US military spending and a fraction of the Soviet Union's military spending. In terms of numbers, it is twice as large as the US army, and about the same as the number of Soviet troops......
The 404 can be regarded as a bargain, and the 359 tank has outstanding performance, and if there is no military expenditure saved by disarmament, there is no great possibility of export to domestic sales.
The price of the 359 tank is too expensive, and a 359 tank, if you follow the export price, can equip at least 4 Type 79 main battle tanks.
"So, the F-14 can be used in the exercise. This can also provide us with new combat experiments in China, which will be of great benefit to us in improving the Super 7 project. The F-14 is a multi-purpose heavy fighter, which can not only be used against the air, but also on the ground, and can even carry anti-ship missiles...... Xie Kai feels that the F-14 cannot be denied participation in the exercise in order to save that little money.
"The cost of this thing is too high, we have to use it for research......"
"They don't ask for it every day. Air-ground integrated operations are also explorations. Compared to the development of a weapon and equipment, this cost is affordable. After all, we do not have a heavy fighter in the country, no. Xie Kai said. "For example, in the course of combat, what kind of performance can the F-14's wings be fixed at what angle...... If we don't test it out, we have to imitate it, and can we solve the inorganic differential of the variable swept wing? In this respect, because the Soviet Union had inferior technology, the variable swept wing appeared stiff when changing angles, and this is why the Soviet Union abandoned the design of the variable swept wing in the design of the new generation of fighters. ”
After the third generation of fighters, there are only F-14 fighters, and there are no other models.
The Soviet Union had a large number of variable-swept wing aircraft, and the three major design bureaus of Mikoyan, Sukhoi, and Tupolev all designed variable-swept wings.
In particular, the Tu-22M medium-range strategic bomber designed by Tupolev, as well as the Tu-160 strategic bomber.
Bombers are different from fighters in that they need range and bomb load, and their maneuverability will not be affected at all.
Fighter jets, on the other hand, require flexible maneuverability, etc.
"In comparison, it is more expensive for us to develop inorganic differential technology, or is it more expensive to let combat experiments derive data and change the design?" Xie Kai asked. "Moreover, the variable sweep wing has proven to be not very suitable for the future development of the aircraft, even if the advantages are very obvious. ”
In terms of cost, the answer is obvious.
As for whether the variable sweep wing is in line with future developments, it is not clear to the people at the base.
But the technology is complex, and it is difficult to get it done, and they all know it.
"You don't want to see the change of sweeping wings, huh?" Zheng Yucheng looked at Xie Kai, frowned and asked, "This kind of technology has not been conquered in China, but now that we have a reference, it will be much easier to develop it." ”
"That's right, if you thoroughly understand this technology and then apply it to bombers such as the H-6, you can increase the range a lot......" Xie Jianguo also spoke.
Usually he doesn't have much time to talk, after all, he is Xie Kai's Laozi, isn't he?
"Is it because we don't have such a technology, whether this technology is in line with future development or not, we have to spend a lot of money to research?" Xie Kai was a little angry.
With the money, it is beneficial to look into these techniques.
For example, the particularity of the rear variable swept wing, in order to make the fighter take into account the performance of the high altitude and meet the aerodynamic characteristics, the technical requirements are higher.
But in any case, this technology is already outdated.
"Everyone, we are not experts in this area, why don't we ask the experts' opinions?" Wang Guilin saw that Xie Kai and Zheng Yucheng were about to quarrel, and hurriedly spoke.
The base does have an idea to conquer the technology of the variable sweep wing.
"Before that, there were no projects in China, the Qiang-6 strong strike aircraft, or the domestic variable-swept wing fighter project, and finally had to be dismounted because the variable swept wing could not be solved. Xie Kai looked at Zheng Yucheng, he must let them dispel unrealistic ideas, the meaning of his existence is to let the research direction of the base project move in the right direction, and the crooked science and technology tree must be strangled in the state that has not yet germinated. "The reason for the dismount of the Qiang-6, everyone knows it, right?"
"It is precisely because the J-6 is off the horse that we need to overcome this technology. Zheng Yucheng said dissatisfied. "The design performance index of the Qiang-6 is much higher than that of various domestic models. ”
"It's a lot higher, but what about the technical difficulty?" Xie Kai looked disdainful, "It's because I can't get the variable wing sweeping technique, so I have to dismount!"
The dismount of the Qiang-6 strong strike aircraft can be said to be inevitable.
Although the design performance indicators are very high, the bomb load can reach 4500 kg, and the combat half catty is more than 900 kilometers, but because the rear variable sweep wing technology cannot be solved, it eventually leads to dismounting.
The J-6 is a reverse engineering of the Soviet MiG-23, and its design performance indicators are better than the MiG-23.
However, in reverse engineering, the domestic technology is not up to par, and the variable sweep wing mechanism is 12% overweight compared with the MiG-23, which seriously affects the fuel load and bomb load, thereby affecting the combat radius.
Not only for this reason, but also the control system of the variable swept wing, which was not solved domestically.
As long as 404 wants to do this, these two aspects must be solved.
"We can't see the benefits of a variable sweep wing just because of the technical difficulty and high funding requirements, right?" Qi Zhiyuan looked at Xie Kai, who was worried that Xie Kai would use this as an excuse to oppose the entire F-14 reverse engineering.
Without the F-14, what other aircraft models in China can be built on the aircraft carrier in the future?
Qi Zhiyuan didn't want to speak, but from the beginning of the aircraft carrier project, Xie Kai opposed it, even if it was just a pre-research, preparation for supporting facilities, etc., Xie Kai was very opposed.
If the F-14 fighter is successful, it can be used not only by the Navy, but also by the Air Force.
Xie Kai is really against it, and this will really be seriously affected by the time.
"There are pros, but there are also many disadvantages. Uncle Qi, if the variable swept wing is really promising, do you think that the world's most advanced fighters will give up such a design? Not to mention anything else, even the Americans have begun to replace the F-14 with the F/A-18, and since 83 years, the US Navy has not only upgraded the existing F-14, but also received F/A-18...... "Xie Kai also fought hard in order to oppose the use of the variable swept wing.
Imitations of the F-14 can be done, but the progress must not be slowed down by the complexity of the variable sweep wing technology.