Xie Kai looked at Mr. Zhu with some incredulity.

"How much does your plan cost?" Xie Kai couldn't figure out what kind of plan Mr. Zhu wanted to put together.

The domestic procurement price of the Type 96 tank in the back is more than 5 million, and the price of the early 99 tank is about 12 million.

In any case, it is much cheaper than the American M1A3.

"According to the current plan, too many electronic systems have been adopted, and the cost will exceed 20 million, and the cost of research and development will be higher...... "Mr. Zhu did not say a specific plan, which is a confidential thing.

But the price can be said of.

"It's normal for R&D costs to be high, and without large-scale production, the cost can't come down at all. The production quantity is more and the technology is mature, and the price is much lower. Xie Kai said.

This cost, converted into dollars, is more than 5 million.

Therefore, Xie Kai doesn't think the price is too high.

"Even if the price is reduced by half, a tank will cost tens of millions, and the troops will not be able to equip it at all. "That's what Mr. Zhu is struggling with. "Otherwise, the 359 tank, the armored forces are obviously greedy, and they will not purchase the size of a battalion for testing. ”

As a weapon design team, it is not only necessary to design the most powerful combat weapons, but also to design them so that the troops can afford to equip them.

The cost is too high to equip the troops, and it is a complete waste.

It is only in the event of a large-scale war that in order not to destroy the country and the species, will it be crazy to produce all kinds of weapons and equipment regardless of the cost, and such a possibility is almost impossible at present.

"Therefore, if you use the anti-stabilized image fire control system that you quoted more than 4 million sets, these three generations of tanks will not be able to be used in China. Mr. Zhu said with a wry smile.

Their plan actually came out.

But that cost made everyone feel that this solution was impossible.

Although the technical difficulty is large, for them, it is not impossible to break through in ten years.

The point is that even if it is done, the troops cannot be equipped on a large scale, what is the use?

"Mr. Zhu, let's engage in design, I think at the beginning, we shouldn't think about the cost or anything, that's what the heads of the logistics department consider. What we need to do is to make technological breakthroughs. Only when the technology develops to a certain extent, there will be more choices. The 359 tank, as is obvious, so far, there are three different levels of performance, high and low. The gap in combat capability is not small...... Even the lowest-grade 359 tank is more combat-capable than ordinary domestic tanks. The 125 mm tank gun, needless to say, has an attack power, and Chobham meets the armor defense, and it is not bad at all, and the basic performance is not too bad...... Xie Kai said.

He hoped that the more advanced the 99 tank that the boss made, the better.

There are projects that can promote the development of other technologies in this field.

99 tank, that is the future king of land warfare, although this thing is a target in front of the gunship, as long as it does not encounter flying in the sky, this thing is the king.

What's more, the 99 tank has artillery-launched missiles, which is not powerless against helicopter gunships.

"The price of the lower anti-stabilized fire control system can be reduced, if the performance of the computer and other aspects is reduced, the cost price of a set can be controlled within 400,000. Mr. Wang, who had not spoken, spoke.

Wang Xingqiao has always felt that the lower anti-stabilized image fire control system has a better prospect.

Although Xie Kai had always told him that the anti-stabilized image fire control system was the future, he didn't think so.

From the very beginning of their acquaintance, Xie Kai put forward the various shortcomings of the lower anti-stabilized image fire control system without a follow-up system, but at the beginning, Wang Xingqiao, the father of the domestic tank fire control system, was hit.

Xie Kai knew that Wang Xingqiao had an almost paranoid liking for the lower rebellion, but he never expected that it would still be like this now.

In the world, only China has researched the lower anti-stabilized fire control system, and China's lower anti-stabilized fire control system is only equipped with the 96 series.

In the process of production and research and development of the 96 series of tanks, the superiors have a very clear requirement - to maintain low production costs.

As long as the design takes the cost into account, it is impossible for technology development to go to the forefront.

And Wang Xingqiao, the father of fire control, is prone to bad influences.

"Mr. Wang, about the upper and lower antis, we have already discussed it on the first day of our acquaintance. There are indeed many advantages...... Xie Kai had to refute Wang Xingqiao's statement.

But I didn't expect it, but I was interrupted, "The shortcomings you said before, we are studying and improving! After adding the follow-up system, we can solve a lot of problems." ”

"What about the cost?" Xie Kai asked rhetorically, "If the follow-up system is installed on the lower reverse, it is better to directly use the upper reverse!"

Xie Kai really wanted to ask Mr. Wang why he didn't want to see him like this.

Since the base acquired 201 Institute, it has not interfered with any research of 201, and only provides funds for their research every year.

Once the follow-up system is added to the lower anti-stabilized image fire control system, the previous advantages of simple structure, high reliability and low cost will be lost.

"Xie Kai, what is there to talk about, Mr. Zhu is here. Zheng Yucheng couldn't hold his face.

About disagreements, come down and close the door and quarrel casually.

Isn't this an outsider?

"It's fine, I was just trying to hear more about these two fire control systems. The fire control system imported from Britain was only a second-generation tank, and there are not many countries in the world that have developed a third-generation tank fire control system. Zhu Yusheng said with a smile.

I was even a little unhappy with Zheng Yucheng in my heart.

People who usually ask 404 are hiding it and don't introduce specific things.

If he had known the specifics, he wouldn't have been here right now.

"Mr. Zhu, the fire control system has not yet been selected for the third-generation tank, right?" Xie Kai asked.

Mr. Zhu didn't know what he meant, so he asked knowingly, and he didn't say anything, just looked at Xie Kai like this, waiting for his next words.

Other people are also looking at Xie Kai, although Zheng Yucheng is not happy to ask the state for funding for this project, the current situation is the most suitable for the anti-stability fire control system.

It's impossible for them to invest too much in R&D without a big market order.

"If the third-generation tank uses an anti-stabilized image fire control system, I think you will have to allocate some funds. Xie Kai directly explained his thoughts.

Zhu Yusheng was stunned for a moment, thinking that he had misheard it at first.

404, the richest and the most lacking in research funds, actually asked them for funding for the tank research team.

Haven't they always been reluctant to ask for state research funding, thinking that this is a constraint on them?

"Why? Haven't you always been reluctant to do this?" Mr. Zhu couldn't figure it out, so he naturally had to ask.

"Mr. Wang has always been unkind to the above, we can't invest in two projects of the same type, right?" Xie Kai said with a smile, "Actually, it's not like this, the main thing is that this thing will definitely not be able to sell in the future." Since you can't sell it, you either don't study it, or the state will give you money......"

"The cost was too high for our project to support. Mr. Zhu looked at Zheng Yucheng and Wang Guilin, and felt that this was a conspiracy of 404, "Originally, the cost of the third-generation tank is high." ”

"Mr. Gao, Mr. Zhu, do you think that the J-8II fire control system costs $10 million? Whether it is a third-generation fighter or a new-generation warship, the cost of the electronic system will account for one-third or even more of the total cost! The main reason for the advanced is the improvement brought by the ground electronic system...... Xie Kai looked at Zhu Yusheng.

He knows better than anyone that Mr. Zhu is not unaware of the importance of advanced electronic systems.

I wish the boss is thinking about the cost.

The 617 side should soon sign a contract with the General Staff Armored Corps Department for the development of prototype vehicles.

617 and 404 are collaborators, and they are also in competition.

"You are used to foreigners, you don't know the military spending of our troops......" Mr. Zhu said with a wry smile.

A 359 tank, all bought for $ 2.8 million.

Of course, this is the top match.

The price is about the same as the Soviet T-72.

"Once the upper anti-stabilized image fire control system is adopted, according to your current quotation, the cost of a main battle tank is estimated to exceed 25 million. Do you think that the armored forces can afford such a price?" asked Mr. Zhu Xie Kai.

Let's not talk about the question of whether it is advanced or not.

Can't afford it, research it out, and put it there for people to see?

"In the future, military spending will definitely increase along with economic growth, isn't it? Besides, in 10 years, your third-generation tank will be finalized? Ten years later, the cost of technology will have been reduced long ago. Xie Kai said, "It's okay for the troops to be able to afford it now, and they will definitely be able to afford it in the future." ”

"If the tanks that are built now can be used by the troops now, will they be able to keep up with the development in ten years? Will they still be able to meet the needs of national defense?" Xie Kai asked Mr. Zhu. "The Type 88 main battle tank finalized last year can afford to be used by the troops, and there are also 6 pairs of load-bearing wheels......"

Xie Kai's words made everyone else hold back a smile and look at Mr. Zhu.

I wish the boss that embarrassment, you can imagine.

The Type 88 main battle tank, which is another main battle tank after the Type 617 and the Type 79 main battle tank. Known as the pioneering work of China's second-generation domestic tank, this thing, many key core components and technologies, are imported from abroad.

The Type 88 main battle tank is based on the improved design of the Type 80II main battle tank, and the design is designed by General Dynamics, and the layout is similar to that of the M1; the tank gun is manufactured by the Hotefleet Arsenal in the United States, and the barrel life is 200~300 rounds; the fire control system adopts the submersible target capture/fire control system produced by Hughes Aeronautics in the United States; the digital ballistic computer comes from the Canadian Computing Equipment Company; and the power system adopts Taylor Dyne · Continental's 882K (1200 hp) AVCR-1790-1B 12-cylinder variable compression ratio turbodiesel engine with transmission from Lenk GmbH of the Federal Republic of Germany......

As a result, this thing came out, and then compared to 404's 359......