This rebuttal is rebuked along with the Taoist doctrine.

It seems that the hatred of other families has been drawn in the debate, but in fact, the relationship between Confucianism and Taoism has been quite bad at this time, and the people of Yang Zhu Liezi's faction are considered branches of Taoism, and Taoists have always believed that these rituals are things that bind people, and they are made by saints against human nature, and there is no legal reason at all.

The confession understands the horror of the other party, and the other party knows that it is impossible to win if he continues to argue about "true" and "false".

So he took advantage of this opportunity, next to the infamy of his Confucian peers, and folded the "true and false" debate of human nature as a need to "good or bad" and "right and wrong".

True and false are true and false.

Right or wrong, right or wrong.

In some disciplines, the two are equivalent, such as arithmetic.

But in humanities, the two are not equivalent, and what is true may not be right, and what is false may not be wrong.

The confession can obviously feel that the other party is avoiding the important and trivial, and wants to lead the question to right and wrong, because if he continues to argue, the confession can be said to be nine out of ten.

This is actually the same routine as the debate topic of "everyone has a heart of benevolence": the heart of benevolence and righteousness cannot be seen, and it may not be expressed, but why do you say that it does not have?

It's like giving you a wooden barrel, it's not allowed to be opened, it's not allowed to be weighed, it's not allowed to be shaken and dissected, I say there's something in it, how can you prove that there isn't?

You can't prove that it doesn't, then it can be twisted into an admission that it may exist.

If you admit that it may exist, then it can be distorted to admit that it really exists.

If you admit that it really exists, then you are acknowledging that humanity is the heart of righteousness.

The same is true of "everyone may have a heart of benevolence and righteousness, and everyone may observe propriety."

Why do you say that such a world where everyone abides by etiquette cannot exist?

If you can't prove that this kind of world where everyone abides by etiquette cannot exist, then prove that ours is not wrong - for example, now I say that one plus one equals three, and three plus one equals five, so I say that one plus one plus one equals five, is it wrong?

Now that you Mohists say that people's needs are human nature, then the world you deduce should be what you say, and the laws should be the kind of laws you say, but your doctrine is based on the fact that one plus one equals two.

Your doctrine is also correct, but it does not mean that our doctrine is wrong, because if one plus one equals three, then the sum of three ones really equals five, can you prove that there is no possibility of such "everyone observes courtesy"?

Gaozi is also a figure who has been up and down within the Mo family for more than 20 years, and the internal debate is far more important than this.

Since the other party understood that continuing to debate what human nature was likely to lead to the possibility of self-denial and revenge being completely overthrown, he chose to argue right and wrong, good and evil, and his heart moved slightly, so he thought of continuing to talk about the topic of the other party.

The other side has not understood that the purpose of debating in front of the people in the open space is not to distinguish the truth from the false, but to persuade the people.

It's just that it happens that the truth is easier for the people to accept.

The confessor then asked, "I remember, Zhong Ni thought that the matter of the harvest was a trivial matter, right?" ”

The Confucian student on the opposite side nodded helplessly, knowing that most of the people listening to the excitement below were so-called "sluts", but he couldn't say that he hadn't even said this sentence.

Fan Chi asked for a lesson. Zi said: "I am not as good as an old farmer." "Please learn as a nursery. He said: "I'm not as good as Lao Pu." "Fan is late. Zi said: "Villain, Fan Xuye! If you give a good gift, the people will not dare to be disrespectful; If the righteousness is good, the people will not dare to disobey; If you have a good letter, the people will not dare to be ruthless. If the husband is so, then the people of the Quartet will carry their sons and come to the place, and use the crops? ”

This is a very famous allusion, Fan Chi asked the master about farming, and the master said that I was not as good as the old peasant, and turned his head and said to his disciples that Fan Chi was a villain.

The confessor asked, "Since you don't learn how to grow crops, can you know how much grain a person can produce in a year?" ”

"You don't know. When Zhong Ni was still alive, one acre of land could produce thirty or fifty catties of grain. Now it can produce four or five hundred catties in two seasons, an increase of ten times and more. ”

This is also talking nonsense with open eyes.

Because the mu at that time and the mu in Sishang now are not one mu at all, and the former is only one-third of the latter.

The other party is a Confucian student, and of course he doesn't know the difference.

The people in the audience were convinced that what the accuser said was right, aren't the two seasons four or five hundred catties together? If there is some water to water the field and there is manure, I am afraid that it will cost seven or eight hundred catties in two seasons.

The confessor asked again: "As you said, self-denial and retribution, that is because there are so many grains and cloths in the world, so according to the regulations, each grade must have suitable materials, this is the only purpose, right?" ”

"If it is not the only purpose, it is equivalent to acknowledging that the ritual law is for the nobles to be silverfish to exploit the people."

The Confucian on the other side seemed to think of something, but it was too late, so he had to say, "It's the only purpose." The purpose of the great benevolence of the master and the great sage of the Duke of Zhou is naturally for this reason, not the silverfish you said in order to make the nobles work for nothing. ”

Gaozi said with a smile: "Now that the population remains the same, the surplus grain in the hands of the people has increased by five times and ten times, but they are not allowed to violate the etiquette law, even if they want to accumulate food to survive the year of famine, in full accordance with the etiquette law, there will still be several times more grain left than before." ”

"So, what is the purpose of the production of grain, vegetables, cloth and silk? Isn't it for people to use? ”

"It is used to accumulate food for famine years, and to put on clothes to ward off the cold. Isn't it also the use of grain to make wine, to exchange grain for more goods, and to wear better cloth and clothes? ”

"According to what you said, in order to be able to practice self-denial, do you have to go back to the time when you have a yield of 20 catties per mu? Otherwise, wouldn't the surplus grain cloth produced be just stacked and let it rot slowly? ”

"Is that what you want? For the sake of self-denial and revenge, would you rather let the world's grain output return to 20 catties per mu? What if it were not for the rotting of so much grain and the moldy cloth for not being used? ”

"Therefore iron tools, farm tools, horses, oxen ploughing, new looms, all of which hinder your self-denial, should be burned, right?"

The Confucian scholar had no choice but to say: "As long as the superior attaches importance to etiquette, the people will not dare to be in awe; As long as those in the higher positions value righteousness, the people will not dare to disobey; As long as the people in the higher positions value faith, the people will not dare to treat you with sincerity. If this is done, people from all over the world will come to the country with their children on their backs, and where will they be able to grow their own crops? ”

"Confucianism is the study of a gentleman, and a gentleman serves the superior. The Matter of the Harvest...... We may not understand it, and we may not understand the changes brought about by the crops, but ...... But it can be heavy on the original and light on the standard. ”

"Master's so-called self-denial and retribution is not based on the definite weekly ritual, but in the situation in the world."

"If it's courtesy...... If the etiquette is no longer in line with the current era, it can be modified. For example, meals and wine, which were originally eaten by doctors, can now be eaten by scholars, and can be eaten by doctors who were originally able to eat by princes...... Adapt to the times and modify the details of the ceremony, but it must not violate the essence of self-denial and retribution. ”

"Etiquette can be changed, but self-denial cannot be changed. According to your Mohists, the needs of people are human nature, even if you are proficient in small affairs, can you really meet the needs of everyone one day in the future? ”

"If not, self-denial is the most perfect."

"Merchants seek profit, and the desires of merchants are difficult to satisfy, and they can buy everything they originally trespassed with money."

"It is true that, according to what you say, everyone is equal, and everyone can buy everything they want with just money, but how can everyone be rich? There must be rich and poor. ”

"So, in essence, everyone is still unequal. It's just that the etiquette has been turned into money. ”

"Why don't you come to real inequality when you talk about false equality? Stipulate new rules and regulations of etiquette, and formulate new rules of etiquette according to the wealth of the present world, so that people of any status can enjoy what kind of clothing, food, and entertainment......"

This time, the opposition of the Confucian scholars below was even more intense.

"You even want to change the etiquette? Do you still dare to call yourself a Confucian scholar? ”

"Who do you think you are? Master? ”

"Come down, he is not a Confucian at all, and his words cannot replace us!"

"Etiquette is immutable!"

"People who have changed their etiquette still dare to call themselves Confucians? Go to your quest and don't ask for a bid! ”

"Get down!"

In the scolding, the confession felt that the other party was ambitious, so he asked with a smile: "So, what is the basis for distinguishing identities?" Even if there is a difference between the high and the low, what does it depend on? Pedigree? ”

The Confucian was suddenly asked to the death hole, and no matter how he answered this question, it was wrong.

Not a pedigree? That's disobedience, what does the distinction between monarchs and ministers depend on? relies on natural bloodline, otherwise, isn't that equivalent to recognizing the Mo family's selection of heavenly sons and princes?

Is it a pedigree...... So how can the people of the world accept it? Especially when the people's minds have been stirred up by the Mo family, how can they accept it?

This Confucian sighed in his heart, and I said in my heart a long time ago that the road of Confucianism does not lie in the people, but in the king. These people didn't listen, so they had to come to Sishang to defend the etiquette and law, and they wanted to debate with the Mo family.

The audience here is the people, how can they possibly accept our statement?

Only by lobbying the king is possible.

They don't listen, they don't know that Confucian gentlemen are for the superiors.

But lobbying the king is a bit difficult to do.

Now is the world of great controversy, if you want to establish a new ceremony, a new law and a new hierarchy, you need to have a person in the world who can make all the princes in the world listen, and now that Zhou Tianzi is weak, who can take this responsibility?

The rest of the princes are now thinking about enriching the country and strengthening the army, where do they have any thoughts about what new etiquette methods? The new etiquette must have a world, and now who dares to say that they have a world?

Nowadays, the strongest princes, the Sishang Mo family, it is impossible to accept Confucianism, the three Jin Dynasty have all undergone changes that are contrary to etiquette, the Qin State is now not even allowed to lobby Confucianism, the local Guanzi school of Qi is even more rich in the country, and the Chu State is a barbarian but the Chu State is also changing the law now.

Perhaps after the unification of the world, he may accept his grand ideas, but the question now is ...... A monarch who has the idea of unifying the world will not accept the lobby of Confucianism; Without the unification of the world, it is impossible to realize the ritual innovation he planned, which is a contradiction and paradox, and it is also the reason why he does not want to come to Sishang at all.

According to his thoughts, now Confucianism is weak, and all the directions of innovation are occupied by the hundred schools of thought, and the reason why Confucianism is Confucianism is because of the pursuit of self-denial and revenge, and if it is the pursuit of others, it is considered a person from the rest of the hundred schools.

Therefore, in the current situation, we should be forbearant and should not argue with these people.

When the world is gradually unified, there will be an opportunity to stand up and formulate a new etiquette for the king, instead of arguing with these people now.

He thought, the truth of this thing, the more you argue, the clearer it is, you shouldn't argue, but wait forbearantly, don't look at the current Yang Zhu, Taoism, Farmer and Mo family jumping fiercely, the future king may not need them Confucianism, life and death are unpredictable, victory and defeat are uncertain, and there is still hope of winning in the long run.

But now, these fellow students have to argue, argue, argue! Especially arguing in front of the people, they don't even know which side Confucianism is standing on and who is speaking for, how can they win?

If you really make everyone in the world sober, how can you still win in the future?

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