Dianqi Book Friend's Analysis:

Three outcome predictions:

In the peace mode, Li Wei united with Yang Valve and other families who would gain benefits to control Chang'an, Xiao Lan persuaded the eldest princess to abdicate, or Lu Bu "protected" the eldest princess and Cai to the military camp, and Cai naturally went into the wilderness without forming a de facto mutiny; Afterwards, the little Son of Heaven ascended to the throne, assisted by the Son of Heaven, replacing the current role of the eldest princess; Prime Minister Li Wei, leading the foreign dynasty; The military part of the DPRK once again formed a certain balance led by Northern Xinjiang, but Li Hong and Li Wei moved towards all-out confrontation, and the military was also constrained by Yang Valve and others in the Inner Dynasty; In this way, the eldest princess lost her politics, but for the sake of the Han Dynasty, she could only fully believe in Li Hong, compromise and abdicate, so as to be compensated emotionally; Cai lost the support of the eldest princess and failed completely, but Zhao Yun, as one of the Son of Heaven's divisions, was a little comfort, and it was also a hope to restrain the military in the future; All expectations for the future are Li Hong's moral level, able to train Xiao Tianzi into a Guangwu, so that he can get rid of the threat of the military. This kind of ending is the most beneficial to the Han, but it is the most unlikely, mainly because it is probably impossible for the eldest princess to give up the power in her hands, and it is difficult for Lu Bu to choose.

Controllable local battle mode, the eldest princess does not compromise, Lu Bu leads the troops against the northern army, does not fight or surrender, and waits for Li Hong as much as possible; Chang'an can also keep a low profile, there are few dead, and Li Wei can control most of the situation and compromise; Li Hong rushed back in time, cleaned up the situation, and faced the biggest problem: on one side is the eldest princess, and on the other side is the little Tianzi (big Han); On one side are the military siblings, on the other side are the people they don't want to kill, and there are close ministers such as Lu Bu and Xu Rong; On one side is the ideal, on the other side is the cruel reality; If you kill less, you will fall into a dead loop, and you will have to face this situation a few years later, and if you kill more, you will be burdened with the black cauldron of confrontation with the people of the world, become Dong Zhuo's second (not necessarily fail), and walk on the tightrope to the ideal; It's hard!

The bloody all-out war mode, Li Hong could not arrive in time, the eldest princess and Cai were hysterical, transferred troops everywhere, and formed a melee in Luoyang and Chang'an, Li Hong could not face it halfway, completely cold-hearted, turned around and went north, vowing to "never step into the Central Plains half a step until death", the Hu army and some of the Yellow Turbans and Li Hong's diehards evacuated the Central Plains and followed Li Hong to the desert to take root; Cao Cao found the right opportunity to take Luoyang and Chang'an in one fell swoop, and the northern Xinjiang collapsed instantly, coupled with the support of Liu Bei and Liu Biao, he quickly destroyed the remnants of the forces, aggressive, and divided in time, Li Hong called on all ethnic groups in the desert to form a large army to confront Cao, stabilize the power in the north of Hebei, and give the eldest princess a last living space; After the victory in the south, Cao Cao's power rose sharply, but soon he also fell into infighting, and Liu Bei took the opportunity to take Chengdu and restore it to the familiar era of the Three Kingdoms period; This outcome, although sad, is the most likely outcome.

Li Hong fled from the desert in order to find his roots, and laid down most of the rivers and mountains for the Han Dynasty, and was forced to let go by the imperial power and the family at the last moment, and then poured thousands of miles, ideals, hands and feet spilled blood and infighting, and finally ended up in the desert and a desolate life! Miserable!

Joshuapeihui Book Friend Analysis:

Leopard this is to retreat as an advance, think about the time when he was the commander of a front army (Zhenbei General, responsible for guarding the territory of the four northern states), for decades to charge, become the leader of the Han army, its prestige is unparalleled, and there is no one under his command who can completely replace him (so our Chairman Mao is still good in this regard, training ten marshals and ten generals in the army, so that the army cannot be concentrated into the power of one person). Now that even this commander-in-chief with outstanding military achievements has gone into the wilderness, his subordinates will not fail to see the taste of "the bird is hiding the bow", there is the example of Han Xin in the past, and now there is the example of the leopard, and they will definitely fight back. Moreover, there are Cao Cao and other rebels sharpening their knives in front of him, and there is a turbulent undercurrent of the Hu army that they rely on. It can be said that the Han is now about to fall into the road of splitting. The literati may not have a deep understanding, but the generals of Northern Xinjiang have all fought for the peace of the world and their own interests all their lives, and they will never let the fruits exchanged for the blood of countless heroes and martyrs be lost again. So it will definitely be tied with the leopard with all its might.

And the purpose of the leopard is in addition to the above, there is also a posterior. It is to all the soldiers to see the true face of the so-called scholars, so that they can understand that the scholars in the court today will not treat them well, and only by themselves can they protect their own interests, of course, the leopard will die one day, so he specially arranged for the little Son of Heaven to exercise in the army, the purpose is to let all the soldiers be tied to the Son of Heaven, so that they can fully support the Son of Heaven, and also arrange a strong guarantee for their interests.

According to the character structure of the book "The Great Han", except for the fictional characters in the book, basically the deaths of historical characters are similar to the endings in the official history. Therefore, in the future development of the plot, it is estimated that Lu Bu will not die like this, in history, Lu Bu was defeated and died, even if the fierce son arranged for Lu Bu to die, at least he would die in the future battle. Take 10,000 steps back and say, if you really arrest and kill Lu Bu according to history. Then the next thing is the situation of Lu Bu's southern army, after all, it was still an era of "soldiers for generals". As soon as the southern army is in chaos, the eldest princess will definitely bear the brunt, and then she will definitely mobilize the peripheral troops to come in close to stabilize the situation, then the Yellow Turban troops near the two capitals will have friction with the troops entering Beijing because of the development of the situation, and everyone will know how it will end in the end.

Next, Zhang Yan, Yang Feng, Jia Xu and other "rebels" will end up in history, and the Yellow Turban generals have an army of 100,000 and are all deployed in the Liangjing area, with Li Wei's political IQ, there is no need to do such a stupid thing. Plus the Son of Heaven is there, so it's not good that even the Son of Heaven has taken in.

Moreover, look at the title, "Sunset on the Long River", "Day" cannot be simply understood as the surname of a certain big man, put it strategically, it is a big group, and the leader of this group is this "day", the current situation, out of the Northern Xinjiang Warrior Group, the largest force is the literati opposition group headed by the prime minister, among them, Yang Biao's Guanzhong Group is a neutral faction, the power of the Yanqing Group is relatively weak, and most of the elites are in the hands of Cao Cao, which is not a problem. The relationship between Li Wei's Northern Xinjiang Scholars and the Northern Xinjiang Warriors is intertwined, and there will be no mutual fight, let alone this situation. Then the rest is the old scholar group that the eldest princess relies on and headed by Lao Cai. Not to mention that this clique is the common opposition of the civil and military factions in northern Xinjiang, and it is also the main force that represents the struggle between the old gate lord forces and the new forces in northern Xinjiang, not to mention that the governing and political concepts are incompatible with the northern Xinjiang system. Many of the incidents happened to them, and this is exactly what the leopard wants to get rid of. And the so-called "traitors" that Zhang Yan wants to get rid of are them, and the leopard wants Li Wei to be the prime minister, and his purpose is also to get rid of them. It can be said that the gate valve power is already at the point where it is "pointed out by thousands of people" in the Han Dynasty, but I am really sorry to God. Just imagine, with their existence, it is difficult to say that the warriors have to live a life of "birds hiding all their bows" for the rest of their lives, and it is difficult for other literati factions to come out. And their downfall not only reassured the martial arts group, but also caused a new power reorganization because of the power vacuum created, which was a win-win situation for the other literati groups, and thus greatly alleviated the already sharp contradictions in the imperial court.

In the end, I don't think this political war will turn into a civil war in the end. After all, there is a fine tradition in history that "the Red Army does not fight the Red Army", and "the Northern Xinjiang Army does not fight the Northern Xinjiang Army" is also the reason why the leopard strongly asks all generals to avoid getting involved in political struggles. There is also that Chairman Mao can still solve Zhang Guotao in a bloodless way in a difficult situation, so why can't the leopard solve this "day" by leaving no blood? Even Zhang Yan said that their actions were only to create a favorable environment for political struggle, rather than really fighting their opponents.

Where is the money for the analysis of book friends:

Now I'm a little worried about the end of "The Great Han", if you write it like this, there are only two endings, one is that Li Hong usurped and rebelled, established an independent military government dominated by soldiers, and caused chaos to the people, after Li Hong's death, the warlords were divided, and the five dynasties and ten kingdoms came ahead of schedule, but if Li Hong lived forever, such tragedies could also be avoided. Another ending is that the scholars won a tragic victory, and the rebellion of the chaotic dynasty led by Li Hong was broken one by one, and the Han Sheji was temporarily saved, but in the near future, the barbarians went south, and Wuhu Chaohua also came in advance.

Disappointed, very disappointed, Lao Meng's book of 5 million words actually showed me such an incomprehensible tragic ending.

The military controls the government, not to mention that the ancients did not agree, even the modern people will not agree. As a soldier's duty is to fight abroad, it is not the turn of the soldier to speak about the affairs of the court, and the ugly thing is that the soldier is the butcher's knife used by the politicians, and the old man's Li Hong has never completed the transformation from a warrior to a scholar, I think it is an absolute failure.

Li Hong kept shouting slogans and saying that he wanted to "save the community and help the Han family", but what about his actions?

I feel that the most successful person in Lao Meng's pen is Li Wei, and he persuaded Li Hong to rebel from the time he saw Li Hong, which shows that he has long seen the predicament that Li Hong will face in the future. The current Li Hong is simply "four dislikes", he doesn't dare to let him delegate power, he is afraid that the court will settle accounts with him in the future, and he is unwilling to rebel, for fear of living up to the trust of the previous emperor. So what exactly does he want to do? What exactly is his political stance?

I also hope you can justify yourself, but in its current form, it's already difficult. First of all, the 'Shimono' who talked to himself, where is the majesty of the imperial court. The soldiers of northern Xinjiang are his personal soldiers, and the feudal officials should be in line with the interests of northern Xinjiang. Although it may not be his instructions, it is true that his soldiers did it, and he can't rely on it even if he wants to, and it is estimated that he will not be convinced. So what to do in the future, it is likely that just like in Thailand, coups have become commonplace.

The fans who read "The Great Han" are all old birds, and they are a little politically conscious, and I am very worried about the way you write now, because I really can't see where Li Hong's way out is, and I can't fool him.

I also know that Lao Meng is a loyal and patriotic person, and he doesn't want to write about Li Hong as the emperor, but the novel has developed to this point, in order to make "The Great Han" have no regrets, it is only like most YY novels, the protagonist is called the emperor.

Another way is to be tragic, so sad that it can save the book "The Great Han", and even reach an unexpected new peak, which is also right for thousands of book fans who have been waiting for "The Great Han" for 3 years. To be honest, I like tragic novels very much, and many world classics are also sad.

Lao Meng, I hope you will seriously face up to the relationship between this "scholar and warrior", which will directly affect the judgment of future generations on this book.

The best policy is that the book that is finally written as a tragedy is a classic.

The middle strategy is that the book written by Li Hong as the emperor is the best of YY's works.

The next strategy is to write that the warriors and scholars jointly govern the dynasty, the authority is divided into two, the military and the government do not interfere with each other, and the emperor is overthrown in the Han Dynasty, creating an unimaginable harmonious society. Well, this book is a happy ending, and the historical "Han" is ruined.

Even if you find a scapegoat, what can you do, then the prestige of the government will be gone, how can you control the army again, and the prestige of the warriors is unprecedentedly high, who can guarantee that they have no more requirements, and who can stop the warriors at that time. Rely on the puppets of the surrendered warriors?

The marriage with the leopard only raised the warriors to a new height, making everyone in the world think that the imperial court had succumbed to the warriors. The Son of Heaven went on an expedition with even more vicious wishful thinking, the prestige of the Son of Heaven was gone, and the generals of the Son of Heaven would still listen to him. As for "removing the old warriors and steadily transitioning the power", who will hand over the power in their hands to a cowardly court.

"The eldest princess and Prime Minister Cai Cheng have gone too far, too anxious" In my opinion, it is too late, they have already realized that the situation is about to get out of control, and they want to start first, how can they have no way to return to the sky, all the factors for changing the dynasty have matured.

Lao Shi, you always say that I am the concept of small group interests, Lao Meng wrote 5 million words, promoted a large number of generals and feudal officials, that is, I, He Lin, became the mayor of Chencang City, and their interests and the interests of the leopard are all tied together. In the eyes of the soldiers, there are only the generals who led them in bloody battles, and the common people only know the mighty generals, so such a huge interest group is still called small?

The difference between military and political affairs that I emphasize means that this war is first initiated by those who engage in politics, and the general is only the leader of the army, and he is not the leader of the government.

At present, the soldiers in northern Xinjiang are obviously involved in politics.

Lao Shi, I can understand what you said about sharing the cake, but my question is "who" will divide the cake, which is the key. Regardless of the size of the cake, there is only one person who just looks at the cake. The cake that the warriors have worked so hard to grab is divided by the scholars, will they believe that they can divide it evenly? This brings us to the question of obedience. Now it is obvious that the warriors do not want the scholars to share, they only believe in themselves, then the contradiction arises.

Luo, I never thought that there would be democratic ideas in the Han Dynasty, everything was based on the analysis report in the book "The Great Han" and combined with history. The eldest princess has so much power because of her bloodline. Her bloodline is a symbol of imperial power, whether she controls the Son of Heaven is a family matter of their Liu family, and in the end it is clear who is the boss, and what does it have to do with the leopard? If the leopard still wants to meddle in royal affairs, then his title of "traitor" will be decided.

From ancient times to the present, the Son of Heaven has always been a toy of the literati, otherwise where did so many dynasties come from?

I know that the military contacted several gatekeepers to carry out the coup. What do they want? Benefit. This interest is maintained by rights, so in the final analysis, it is rights. But how did their rights come about, and was it given by the imperial court? No, by their own army. Then they relied on the army in their hands to get the government to compromise with them. Then they will feel afraid afterwards, afraid that the government will take back their army, afraid of losing their support, so they will try their best to control the army in their hands and make the army their private army.

But the imperial court was not stupid, so why should it supply the army that was not its own, so it cut off the supply of private troops, so that the generals would launch another coup d'état to make the government compromise. Soon after, they found out that if they died, would the government trouble their children and grandchildren? No, while I still have the breath, I will unite a few brothers who are in trouble and simply overthrow the government, so that it will be peaceful.

Based on the above analysis, it is only a matter of time before Li Hong usurps the throne.

The response of the book friends of the Tibetan scriptures:

From the beginning to the present, the leopard has never been fighting for himself, nor just for the northern frontier. The leopard has always been fighting for the common people under the rule of the Han Dynasty and even outside the country, which of course includes the family and the slave leaders of ethnic minorities. He hoped that all these people would share the stability and prosperity of the Han community. And the group of people represented by the eldest princess, what they need is not this. They just need the stability and prosperity of the group. In their eyes, the leopard's struggle for the stability and prosperity of all people is to fight for the interests of their small group. And that's exactly what happened.

That's why the leopards have done it so far, and the eldest princesses feel that it is enough, but the leopards still feel that it is far from enough. The eldest princesses will judge what the leopards do with their own interests, but we should know that the hopes of the leopards are completely incomprehensible and unimaginable to the eldest princesses. This is also the reason why the military leaders of the Yellow Turban Department will firmly stand on the side of the leopard, and Li Wei and Xu Rong, the old northern frontiers, will fall to the side of the eldest princess.

Like the landlord's analysis idea, he just looks at the leopard as a small group, and completely ignores the ideals in the hearts of the leopards, so of course, just like the eldest princess, they can't understand the leopard's approach at all.

Old money, you have circled yourself back into the concept of small group interests. The so-called strict distinction between military administration and government administration and government administration is recognized and observed by all interested parties in order to stabilize the division of interests after the division of interests has been completed. There has never been a boundary that cannot be crossed between the military and the government. Let's take an example, with the strict practice of "********" in this dynasty, when the north was **** that year, wasn't there also rumors that the southern army was going north? Therefore, the order and stability of the government are based on the fact that the division of interests is recognized and observed by all parties. If there is no agreed division of interests, there should be no extravagant expectation of any insurmountable chasm. In history, how did King Hongnong ascend to the throne? How did you get down? How did he die? How did Emperor Xian ascend to the throne? How is it maintained? How did you get down? Could it be that at that time, so much could be accomplished without the courtier Dong Fat, and so much could be accomplished without the courtier Cao Hei? Therefore, the era of the coup d'état is the era of re-cutting the cake. In this era, no rules are the biggest rules. Old Qian, the difference between military and political that you emphasized is actually a scum in this year!

And then say the leopards. The goal that the leopards want to fight for is still far away, and they can't tolerate letting it go now, because in their hearts there are still many groups whose interests are not guaranteed at all, and the cake at this stage is not enough for so many groups. So they have to continue to grow bigger and stronger. However, there are two problems with this.

First, in order to continue to become bigger and stronger, it is necessary to continue to occupy more existing resources and control more existing interests. The Saga Group has already won everything it thinks can be fought for, and the next stage is the stage of desperate desire to reallocate resources and enjoy more peace dividends. This is the superficial cause of the conflict between the two sides.

Second, after continuing to grow bigger and stronger, although the overall resources are more and the cake is bigger, it is obvious that more groups will squeeze on the table to participate in the distribution of these resources and participate in cutting the cake. For the leopards, that's what they're fighting for. But for the group of people who originally occupied all the seats at the table, this is completely a subversion of their fundamental interests, and it is impossible for them to say how to cut the cake, and no matter how much cake they share, they cannot make up for this essential change. Therefore, for the members of the clan, it will be a nightmare for them to resist no matter what. This is the essential reason for the conflict between the two sides.

Old money, I shouldn't be the right word for the concept of small groups. In my words, this concept refers to groups that already have a place at the table. While everyone took it for granted that these groups should and could only be at the table, the leopard was thinking about how to make the table bigger and how to add a few chairs to the new group. The leopard concept is a large group, and the traditional concept is a small group. Of course, the small group will not understand and will resolutely resist the "pure destruction" behavior of the leopard.

I'm not very clear on my own, so I'm sorry for the trouble I've caused you the wrong words. Hehe~

Let's go back to the topic of your Northern Xinjiang military involvement in politics. I don't think that the soldiers in northern Xinjiang are "involved in politics", but I think that the scholars and courtiers are "involved in politics".

The freak of Northern Xinjiang was born from the beginning because of the ideal of the leopard. Although the leopard was still a political idiot at the time, this did not affect the fact that he created and cultivated this freak under the guidance of his ideals. In the whole process of growing up in Northern Xinjiang, the leopard has always been based on the ultimate realization of his ideals. What's the bottom line? Is it a military bottom line? No, it's a political bottom line! Therefore, since the birth of Northern Xinjiang, Leopard is not a pure military strategist, but a politician who leads troops.

Entering politics with the army does not mean that you have to fight in the court in person, let alone give up the army to become a pure politician. The leopard is smart, and he carries out his political ideas by cultivating agents. And he himself still does what he does best, controls the army well, and ensures that his political ideas are given a space for healthy growth.

Now that the proxy war is out of control, can't the big bosses behind the scenes move? The eldest princess group is going to forcibly break through the leopard's political bottom line, can the leopard not use its own strength to maintain a space for the healthy growth of its own political ideas?

That's why I say that it's not the soldiers in northern Xinjiang who are "involved in politics", but the scholar group who are "involved in politics." Old money, you will think so, I think you have set the leopard wrong. The leopard is a political figure, not just a general who fights and kills, as the scholars and courtiers imagined and hoped. The leopard is a courtier with a knife, not a knife in the hands of a courtier.

So you still can't get around in your own small group. Look at your own thoughts: the Son of Heaven is a toy of the literati, and if the leopard wants to touch the "toy of the literati", the title of "traitor" will be decided. Martial artists can never surpass literati, otherwise they can only stand on the opposite side of "the whole world".

This kind of thinking shows that you are also like the gate valve family represented by the eldest princess, who thinks that the resources of this world can only be divided and controlled by their group, and other people and things can only exist as objects to be dominated. The Great General Leopard is against this idea. He wanted to bring more of the groups that had previously belonged to the dominated into the group of the dominants. The first to bear the brunt is the warrior group, and then there will be ethnic minority groups and civilian groups...... Wait a minute.

With such an old money in mind, of course, you can't understand the leopard's approach, and you can't understand the Mengzi's writing. It's not surprising that the eldest princess and Li Wei and Xu Rong are so close to the leopard, don't they all understand the leopard. Not strange, not strange. Hehe~

The history of the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms and the social structure of the world today illustrate a problem: if a country is not embraced and supported by its civilians, it will be so fragile that it will be crushed to death by its own armor. Is that right?

If the country is ruled by a single group of literati, it is only necessary to deal with these few literati. At this time, force can be a very quick and convenient option. And all walks of life will also be very happy or insensitive to this matter: anyway, the people are suffering, the people are suffering, the city is changing the king's flag, what is the matter!

> if there are more groups at the table, it will not be so easy to take care of the country: the saboteurs need to get the past done one by one. At this point, force is an unnecessary option: you can't kill the whole country, can you? If you don't kill them all, everyone will always make trouble for you, and you will be as unstable as the Japanese devils in the occupied areas during the eight-year Anti-Japanese War. With this effort, it is better to strive for a position in the system.

Therefore, the extreme defense of the warriors is actually a unique imagination under the fragile rule of the dictatorship of small groups. If we can expand the ruling base like a leopard, there will be no recurrence of incidents outside the system like the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms, and it will be replaced by struggles within the system. Isn't this wise for the long-term development of the country and the nation?

For example, you can imagine that the current military coup in the United States and Germany will definitely not succeed. So why?

You see that the Soviet Union also staged a coup d'état in the past year in an attempt to save the fate of the country, but failed. What do you think is the reason? Martial artists are not terrible, what is terrible is the hope of literati.

I don't know why Lao Qian sees civil and military affairs so clearly. May I ask Lao Qian: Is Eisenhower a man of letters or a martial artist? Is Mao Taizu a man or a martial artist? Is it literature or martial arts? Is Ban Chao a man or a martial artist? Is Xin Qiji's disease a civil or a martial art? Is Zhao Kuangyin a writer or a martial artist?

You're wrong. The reason is that there is no such group as a warrior in those countries.

As you imagine, the era when Chinese Wujing is clearly divided and does not allow the martial artists to turn over is not nothing, and it is close at hand. The Northern and Southern Song Dynasty and the Ming Dynasty were all eras that resolutely implemented your ideas. The result? Wrong way, right?

There is also a Poland in history, a military power that dominated Central and Eastern Europe for two centuries, and it seems that it also died under the rule of the literati.

We should relax our thinking and find some new ways in addition to promoting the military and suppressing the military. Because history has proven that it is wrong, whether it is good or bad.

Seaside Walk 007 Book Friends:

The yellow robe is not enough, I think the fierce son wants to eliminate this leopard crisis with the scourge of relatives.

For the time being, after the mutiny, the prime minister will fall and the military will govern. Although the military did not complete the final transformation from soldiers to scholars, they also received the support of some scholars, such as Yang Biao, and there were also many military generals from scholars such as Sima Yi. You can also humanize your descendants by thinking about Zhang Yan's proposal. In fact, I think that the biggest bottleneck for the soldiers here who have not completed the transformation of the warriors is the Yellow Turban generals, these people are as untouchable as the leopards, so that they are not recognized by the old gate lords, and they cannot be transformed into new gate valves.

And the Son of Heaven can gradually master the army, remove the old warriors, and steadily transition the power through marriage with the leopard and through his own personal conquest, although there are calamities for relatives. But it's a little better than the ending like Li Hong being the emperor. In fact, the eldest princess and Cai Chengxiang went too far and were too anxious.

And this coup d'état must have someone to be a scapegoat, and someone must pay the price as an explanation, I think it is Xu Rong, so I am very worried about him.

joetrige2 book friend responds:

The problem now is that the eldest princess and Cheng are too optimistic about the situation, and it is very necessary to recover the military power from the imperial power in time. In the hands of the general!

This is extremely dangerous, in the Central Plains battle, the first time the general fell to fully reflect this danger, now, when the general to retreat to advance, more reflected the military power is scattered, each set up a hill situation, in fact, this situation has appeared after most of the Chinese unification war, but unfortunately, the rabbit did not die, the bird was not beaten down, the eldest princess and the prime minister are inevitably in a hurry, the so-called seeking the country is like cooking a small fresh, one side of the skin has not been cooked, how can you turn over?

The Last Shepherd Book Friend Responds:

The army is a tool, but the warriors are also people, they also have their own interests, and they have also formed forces, which should not be taken lightly. He Jin, Dong Zhuo, and Leopard can all be regarded as representatives of the interests of the warriors, and they are no longer willing to be the tools of the warriors. If this point is ignored, there will be waves of martial artists interfering in politics and disorderly government. Therefore, the leopard should pull the warriors into the court, stand side by side with the literati clan, improve the status of the warriors, and protect the interests of the warriors, so as to better avoid mutiny and chaos among the warriors, and the court can be more stable. This is the conclusion reached by the leopard after Dong Zhuo's rebellion, and it is one of the important contents of the Han Zhongxing in the leopard's heart, and it is also an important cornerstone of the Han Zhongxing. Any attempt to exclude the warriors from entering the court would be cleared by the leopards as a stumbling block to the rise of the Han dynasty. Cultivating the little emperor to be close to the warrior is an important measure taken by the leopard for this purpose, and it can also be seen that the leopard no longer trusts the eldest princess and is preparing for the exclusion of the eldest princess.

Roland_Death Knight Book Friend Responds:

The generals were also part of the imperial court.

The army is dissatisfied, so there will be soldiers...... At least there's a little genius to look forward to, isn't there?

Besides, the so-called distinction between civil and military, and military obedience and literature were all bullshit in that era.

Just obey the Son of Heaven. As for the end, it depends on who has a hard fist. As for what to do after winning, there are many choices...... You can learn from Huo Guang, you can learn from Wang Mang, or you can learn from some other people......

Lao Qian is too rigid here to the so-called military government, the civilian government, and some modern ideas of democratic government......

In ancient times, how could there be so many wordy things. In fact, no one gave her such a lot of power as the eldest princess......

It's not what I wanted......

The Eldest Princess's Mansion does not represent the ...... of the government and the imperial court It's just that the prime minister is messing around with her. The one who represents the imperial power is still the Son of Heaven...... And the eldest princess only controls the imperial power because she controls the Son of Heaven, and now it is time for the question of the ownership of the imperial power......

The army only needs to obey the Son of Heaven......

If the army obeys the decisions made by the literati...... Isn't the son of heaven a toy in the hands of literati? And the army is a tool for the literati to play with the Son of Heaven...... Therefore, Lao Qian's understanding was wrong in that era, and the soldiers obeyed the decisions of the Son of Heaven rather than the literati......

The whole world you're talking about is the world now, right?

In ancient times, there were not so many restrictions.

The literati influenced the government by exerting influence on the emperor's imperial power...... If a warrior can do this, isn't it the same?

Just because no one has tried it before doesn't mean it's not feasible. Although there is difficulty. And a big ...... But here it is not said that it completely replaced the literati to influence the emperor alone to influence the imperial power. It's just that the clan of the gate lords first wanted to deprive the soldiers of what little influence they had, and it sparked a rebellion. And it's not just a pure military resistance, did you see Yang Biao see Jia Xu?

The rebellion here is only to get the rights that are right...... Not as exaggerated as you say...... Although bloodshed is unavoidable

Even if the army is a tool, it should first and foremost be an instrument of imperial power...... As for the clan or the literati in the court, they do not have the right to directly make the army their own tool, and they can't do it for any reason.

They can only achieve their ends by influencing the imperial power...... which is legal...... But at present, Prime Minister Cai Cheng and the eldest princess take it for granted that they have this power......

They just take it for granted, they break the rules first, and then allow others to correct the rules by their own means. Even if there is bloodshed and conflict, it is clear who is responsible. And, in particular, note that this is not a lone action of military men. It was the collective action of the military and a few clans...... Don't just think of it as a coup d'état......

Analysis of Xullllllllllll's book friends:

Guess the meaning of the sunset over the long river, according to the current statement, the Yellow Turban Department launched a military admonition, not to mention the Royal Guard, Li Wei still has 5,000 soldiers in his hands, this is what Zhang Yan did not expect, it must be a bloody battle, people are sure to die, and there should be a lot. Then looking at Prime Minister Cai Cheng (I don't know how to pronounce his words), with his attitude towards Dong Zhuo in history, it is estimated that he will not go, and there is still a danger of hanging, if he can't get it, there are so many in his family, and Cai's department has been hit hard. Li Wei may become prime minister because he was born in the Northern Xinjiang line, but depending on his attitude in the incident, the best result is that the civil and military lines in Northern Xinjiang control the imperial court. The eldest princess, the Yellow Turban Department played the banner of not letting the Inner Palace ****, and it is estimated that the right to be handed over, but before the Son of Heaven became an adult, it was still the eldest princess who acted as the government, so the eldest princess's banner could not fall, the eldest princess had no power, but it could also affect the Son of Heaven, the Yellow Turban Department estimated that life was not good, the Son of Heaven, to be honest, the Son of Heaven was deceived, since then the Son of Heaven and his aunt have been estranged, and when they grow up, it is strange not to be ruthless Zhang Yan. Zhang Yan, he is the leader, and he doesn't want to be the prime minister, what should I do? If the soldier doesn't want to be in the position, it may not be good, who dares to use him? Look at the results of the Xi'an Incident and have a reference. Leopard, although it is the leopard that benefits, but there is not much difference between the military admonition and the rebellion, and this has the taste of a yellow robe, what should he do? How to deal with the relationship with various factions, especially the damaged ones, is a headache. In short, the court reshuffles, damn should not be a lot, the court is like a battlefield, the king is defeated, but the factions are not like the enemy of life and death on the battlefield, for those who lose power, there is no endless sadness, so it is said that the sun sets over the long river.

Consciously sparse, bold guesses, throwing bricks and leading the way

The analysis of good book friends:

"Mengzi, please make it clear that there are two completely different concepts of power and politics"

Recently, I've been slowly browsing the posts in the book review area.,I've had a few painless comments in the middle.,Of course,As far as I'm concerned, my mind is still relatively clear-headed.,Never participate in those "how it's written.,How it should be" comments.,Because since you can't write good-looking words and complexes,Don't delusion that the author will become your ghostwriter or spokesperson.,All of us are essentially "boring spectators", and viewers have to abide by the rules of spectators.

However, why do we want to write such a thing today, in fact, it is mainly for a serious topic: "Should online literature also have a grading system?" A small problem in "The Correct Concept of Politics in Political Fiction": "How to distinguish between the concept of power and politics". You can't hide the problem, so here, I want to ask Mengzi: Is "The Record of the Han Empire" instilling in readers the concept of power or politics?

"The Great Han" is basically divided into four stages so far: the fortune of Mengzi; the struggle for power between He Jin, Dong Zhuo and the Shiren group; the rise of Northern Xinjiang, Yuan Shao and related groups and their military rivalries; The struggle for power in the post-Luoyang era. Judging from Mengzi's writing and the reflection of the book review, objectively speaking, "The Great Han" is already a "military and political novel in the context of virtual history in the late Han Dynasty". Since the book review area unanimously believes that "The Great Han" is a serious military and political novel, then, as the saying goes, "the text carries the Tao". Today, let's take a look, what kind of "truth" did Mengzi give us?

First of all, let's look at the political programs of all parties in "The Great Han", a regime, the most basic thing should be this thing. The so-called political program, in layman's terms, is where is the society under the leadership of a political regime going? What is the "ultimate goal" of the development of the country and society under the leadership of this regime, and what kind of goals and programs does Mengzi describe to us after millions of "scholarly debates, data collection, and meeting minutes"? No, at least for the time being, the Northern Xinjiang bloc is unable to describe neither a rational political structure nor a reasonable social development goals, but what about the other blocs? Nor did it. What is left other than the expression of naked power tricks and killings between and within the group?

Fiction can explore different routes, which may seem absurd and incredible, but they cannot irresponsibly inculcate wrong academic concepts and methods. As a serious historical novel sought after by everyone, "The Great Han", Mengzi wants to make it clear: power is power, and politics is politics. We must not use the tactic of "substituting power for politics" to make readers have a wrong concept of politics. "The Great Han" objectively confuses the difference between "power" and "politics", and it is easy for readers to say: "It turns out that this is politics, it is really ugly and bloody." As a responsible author, I personally hope that Mengzi can effectively describe the fundamental differences between them.

It is undeniable that, objectively speaking, the current "Dahan" has basically become a limited number of "relatively mature" "political and religious" model textbooks in the alternate history category, and Mengzi also agrees with this point of view (see the knight's top post) The knight's explanation to everyone is: "Since the anti-corruption, the "Dahan" will make up for politics, economy, culture and other categories, and it is a make-up lesson for readers." Okay, so let's review what lessons Mengzi has taught us? Based on my "gradually lost memories" (mainly because the make-up time span is too long, and some of the content is not very clear), I will probably talk about it.

With regard to economic policy, I think that the problem of industrial adjustment and some land reform has been solved at the micro level, and I have no better proposal in this regard.

As for culture, it seems that the impression is mainly focused on the development and description of scriptures and some siege machinery.

As for politics, it mainly stays in the scope of the struggle for power at various stages, and the introduction of the main scholar group in the late Han Dynasty describes several important struggles around Luoyang by the way.

Is this what Mengzi gave us a make-up lesson? No, I told myself, I was wrong. Mengzi is teaching us a lesson in the art of replenishing power! Economy, culture, authority, and ******** are all designed to highlight the madness of the whole era, as far as the "calm bystander of history" is concerned, the fierce son is admirable, right and wrong are no longer important, life can be abandoned at any time, only history is silently watching the continuation of this farce between heaven and earth... Therefore, what I would like to say is: "Power is not the whole of politics, and "The Great Han" is not a political and religious novel, it is a work that tries to substitute the reader into the role of a mere spectator of history, and makes us think calmly."

It's a pity, I personally think that Mengzi was not successful at this point. As a reader of more normal "historical" novels, I think I am more concerned about what kind of social role the protagonist (or group of protagonists) will assume in the future. Is (or how) to replace the current regime (or become the mainstream bloc of the current regime)? What kind of country do you want to build in the future? In what direction should we develop the whole society? What kind of scope and pattern is formed in the territory? If fictional ******** are involved, how can national reconciliation (or extinction) be achieved? How to deal with direct propositions such as the historical position of the protagonist (group).

However, Mengzi's "ambiguous traverser" - "sudden change of history" - "blurring of roles" - "pure struggle" did not succeed in leading readers to reflect on and agitate history, but is gradually leading readers to a big pit composed of "gorgeous power tricks" - "ambition to fight for hegemony" - "complete loss of sense of direction" and other elements.

In this crater, flashy conflict and informative material have instead become a kind of interpretation of pulp fiction that is highly akin to "grandstanding". And all this may only come from the exhaustion and loss of Mengzi. Excessive calmness can easily evolve into coldness, and at this time, can we put aside the infinite conspiracy for a while, and discuss the brilliance of human nature in that moment in the endless river of history with passionate pen and ink?

The sky is high and the moon is full, and the book friend responds:

Thousands of years ago, politics was imperfect and flawed, and the environmental situation in the novel was urgent and turbulent, so people's political goals at that time were diverse and chaotic, thinking about how socialism in China developed in the past 2 years is not only one concept, but also developed in the fierce struggle, think about how many ** people Wang Jing******wei killed at that time, more than hundreds of thousands, but there are still people who don't want to defend by force, is the bloodshed a manifestation of power?

gao2 book friend responds:

Agree with the words upstairs, the novel is not a thesis after all, and secondly, politicians are also human beings and have their own selfish desires, not to mention feudal society. In reality, there are many people who have to do something against their ideals. Including me, upstairs and the landlord. There is no point in scrutinizing this kind of thing strictly in fiction. On the other hand, I have written about the political programme in a previous comment. But now it seems that I think I misunderstood the author. This novel is an alternate historical novel, not a historical treatise, and the officials of the court themselves may not even know about the qualified political parties and the party system that matches them.