"The scholars and doctors of all dynasties have thought like Brother Su, but the so-called peaceful and prosperous times of all dynasties are just short-lived, but have they been for a long time? What Brother Su said makes sense, but everything must be done in moderation, especially if it is not enough. Wang Xiang's new policy has many shortcomings, but one thing is very valuable, it is indeed beneficial to the Great Song Dynasty. As long as the defects can be compensated, the side troubles can be solved, and the internal worries can also be solved. Villagers can be served, scholars can have fun, but villagers are light and scholars are slow to have fun, then the country is prosperous, and there is no worry about inside and outside, why not? ”

What Hong Tao was surprised was not the truth of what Su Shi said, but his attitude when he said this. That's really justified, not contrived at all. Looking at Li Gonglin's virtue again, he also kept bowing his head to express his agreement.

Although it was only the two of them, it was not difficult to imagine that those old party officials in the court probably thought so too. There are many more gentry and students in the opposition who probably think the same way.

This is not Su Shi's creation, nor is he reactionary, but the universal values of this era. Wang Anshi's new policy of suppressing interest groups and snatching meat from their mouths is an outlier with different values.

Is there something wrong with this value? In essence, there is nothing wrong with it, and exploitation has never been eliminated since ancient times, no matter what system or doctrine it is, it is nothing more than a difference in severity and method.

In addition, there is another problem that worries Hong Tao even more, that is, the concept of home and country. Ancient intellectuals such as Su Shi, Sima Guang, and Ouyang Xiu did not have a very clear concept of the state, and they only respected this system of learning literature and martial arts and selling goods to the emperor's family.

If the Liao State also follows this system, then they can completely become the courtiers of the Liao State and continue the pursuit of the glory of the family and their own ideals and ambitions, as for who the people of the emperor are, they don't care at all.

In their eyes, only those who have the ability should be officials, and those who do not have the ability should work and pay taxes. Since they are all incapable people, it doesn't matter what kind of clan they are, as long as they pay taxes, pay food, serve hard labor, and don't rebel or anything if they have nothing to do, it will be a peaceful and prosperous world.

But the question is, what if everyone thinks so about the country? You have all tried your best to meet your own needs, leaving the country to be consumed half-dead. Once the country is finished, and no other country is willing to follow the system, will you all be happy?

Therefore, in Hong Tao's view, classes cannot be eliminated, and there is no need to eliminate them, and exploitation also exists objectively, and there is no way to eliminate it for the time being. Humanity will continue to prove this for millennia, and the answer will remain the same. As for whether there will be new answers in the future, Hong Tao is not clear.

Since it cannot be eliminated, and if the struggle between them is serious, both sides will lose, so why not make up for it together, so that the class gap is not so big, the exploitation is not so serious, and the collapse is avoided?

From a historical point of view, as long as the oppressed and exploited classes can get by, and there is hope for the better, they will not fight too fiercely.

In the same way, the oppressive and exploiting classes also have to be restrained, eat better, and appropriately cede some of their interests, after all, after the collapse, it is still this part of the people who will lose more.

"Jin Qing must say that the new deal is feasible, where did he know, is it also from the formula?"

After arguing for a long time, neither of the two of them could convince anyone, and at this time Su Shi really impressed Hong Tao. He is indeed smart enough, and he is also very accomplished in the project of raising the bar, and he puts himself in a passive situation when he asks a word.

That's right, who has the most say in whether the New Deal is good or not, whether it can be successful and achieve the original design intention? Everyone has and no one has it, because the positions and angles of each side are different, and if you want to comprehensively judge the results, you must go deep into the grassroots to experience it for yourself.

The meaning of Su Shi's sentence didn't need to be translated by Lian'er, and Hong Tao understood it: You are a concubine, and you haven't gone out much in Kaifeng City, so you just sit at home and talk about the army. It's true that the number can be calculated on paper, but can the national policy also be calculated on paper?

If you see it, he will use the opponent's advantages as a weapon to attack the opponent in turn, this move is too ruthless! In addition, there is a hidden meaning in this sentence that is even more hateful, Su Shi is reminding himself that he has been a magistrate anyway, and he has more say in this regard than himself.

Hong Taorao is a big bar, and he has been raised all over the ancient and modern Chinese and foreign rare opponents, and Su Shi is speechless to ask this sentence. That's right, how can I assert that the New Deal is not all chaos? I can't say that I came from a thousand years later, and history proves that the New Deal has merit.

It seems that the views of myself and this close friend on this issue cannot be bridged for the time being, and this is called disagreement. Moreover, the more capable people are, the more stubborn they are about major views, and they cannot be persuaded without showing some dry goods.

"In time, we are not busy opposing or supporting. Now, apart from the New Deal, isn't there anything more troublesome? Hong Tao didn't bother to make any effort, just come up with a drag knife plan to see if he could bypass this fortress and break through from other aspects.

"What is Jin Qing referring to? For the brother to be dull, I hope to show it clearly. Su Shi's reaction this time was very slow, and he couldn't understand it even after pulling his beard for a long time.

"Border troubles, the Liao State and the Western Xia have been peeking at our dynasty, no matter whether the new policy is feasible or not, and no matter who is right and who is wrong between the new party and the old party, as a member of the Great Song Dynasty, we should always work together to unite with the outside world first. It's not too late to fight after getting rid of the border troubles and recovering my homeland. ”

Seeing Su Shi's reaction, Hong Tao's heart was half cold. Like most of the Song people, he didn't seem to see any great threat to the two northern countries, and focused his attention on the struggle at home.

"What is the disease of scabies, Taizong Dynasty Zhao Xianggong said, China is safe, and the group is self-serving. If the deceased husband wants to go outside, he must first settle inside. It's late today, my brother has just arrived, and I haven't visited my brother at home, so I'll come back another day to ask for advice and say goodbye! ”

Soon, the remaining half of his heart was also cooled by Su Shi's answer. Presumably Su Shi also sensed that the differences between the two sides were too big, and they could not be bridged by sitting together and chatting. In order to avoid everyone's embarrassment, they got up and said goodbye, and when they left, they had a serious face, coupled with the howling north wind, which was very Qi Qi Xiao Xiaoran.

"Who is Zhao Xianggong of the Taizong Dynasty?" Hong Tao sent the two friends outside the door of the mansion and stood on the steps to watch their backs disappear into the night.

It's over, and I still hope that Su Dacai will have the opportunity to make a gift for himself, raise his image, and by the way, it will be immortal, this time it is completely hopeless.

Not only do I know it in my heart, but I am afraid Su Shi also knows that the boat of friendship will capsize. Differences do not interfere with each other, and do not hinder friendship. But if even the common language, common pursuits, common ideals, and common hobbies are different, then it's still a fart.

"It should be Zhao Zeping, the Duke of Wei, Taizu and Taizong are the two dynasties, Zhenzong chases the king of Han, and is accompanied by the Taizu temple ......" Lian'er couldn't answer this question, but she couldn't help the rich Ji next to her.

This is also a fan of Su, and he has been serving with Lian'er in and out of Feiyu Hall pretending to be a maid serving food and tea, and when he saw his master and Su Shi finally break up, the expression on his face was similar to that of his dead father.

"Name it! I don't know how to read, I don't know if I can't read! Hong Tao didn't feel too sad because he offended his good friends, and he didn't treat these ancients as friends at all, it was just a curiosity.

But when I saw the woman next to me who was sad for outsiders, I couldn't help but feel angry in my heart. Even if this woman has nothing to do with herself, it won't work, a good cabbage should be her own!