Chapter 68: The Debate (Part II)

Song Rong spoke, and of course Tian Zikai could no longer remain silent. After all, the identities of the two are equal, and he said: "Song Fuzi's theory is too biased, in a lifetime, you should take self-cultivation, Qi family, governing the country, and leveling the world as your own responsibility, the rich will help the world, and the poor will be good to yourself, so it is a life of life. ”

Shen Shen also said: "Mrs. Song, I also think that if it is to 'do nothing' as the foundation of a person's self-cultivation, it is beyond reproach, but as the way to govern the country, it is a big mistake, now the six countries stand side by side, there is Hu in the north, there is Yue in the south, there is Yi in the east, there is Rong in the west, and the barbarians are all tigers and wolves. ”

Song Rong shook his head and sighed: "Master Tian is already over sixty years old, and it is difficult to understand the avenue of 'inaction', and it is a pity that you are so young that you are also obsessed with 'promising'." As he spoke, he raised his glass, took a sip, and said no more.

And Tian Zikai often debated with him, knowing that this was Song Rong's temper, and Taoism has always been ethereal, cloud-covered and foggy, in fact, it is not more popular than Confucianism, so Confucianism has never regarded Taoism as its opponent, so it doesn't mind.

Gao Yuan listened, to nod slightly, the Taoist theory of non-action seems to be reasonable, in fact, it can't stand scrutiny, to put it bluntly, you play inaction, and others play promising, the first to perish is of course inaction, so Shen Shen's statement is based on reality. Although it is said that in many fields in later generations, because it is in the economic field, there is also a saying of "non-interference", which seems to have some similarities with the theory of inaction, but this kind of non-interference does not mean doing nothing, but refers to doing things according to economic laws, doing what should be done, not doing what should not be done, and not doing nothing.

At this time, the Mohist scholar Zhai Jin, who had not spoken, said: "Taoism is good at talking, which is not advisable, but Confucianism only talks about benevolence and righteousness, and Legalism only emphasizes strict punishment and strict law, and it is difficult to achieve great things." ”

Shen Shen turned to Zhai Jin again and said, "I wish Mr. Wen would be high." ”

Zhai Jin said: "Now the world is in turmoil, not because of the collapse of etiquette and the disorder of superiority and inferiority, but because the people have three troubles, the hungry cannot eat, the cold cannot be clothed, and the laborers do not wait." If the three troubles of the people are not eliminated, it will be difficult for the world to be stable. Looking at Shen Shen, he said: "And the Legalists can only get the wealth of the country, the number of people, and the work of criminal government, so although it can make the country rich and strong, it is also difficult to keep it for a long time. ”

Shen Shen couldn't answer for a while.

Chun Yu Zhongxiu smiled and said, "So what does Mr. think, how can we eliminate these three troubles?" ”

Zhai Jin said: "Only by using the method of my Mo family, and loving each other, benefiting each other, saving use, saving funerals, non-music, and non-attacking." A father cannot love his son, a brother cannot love his brother, a brother cannot love his brother, a brother cannot love his brother, and a brother cannot love his brother. And the father regards the world as the son, the brother regards the world as the brother, the world as the father, and the brother as the world's brother. Mutual benefit, and the powerful to help others, the rich to help others, the knowledgeable to help others, the private benefits of each person into the public interests of the world. And the thrift should not be wasted, the clothes can warm the body, the food can fill the stomach, the house can be sheltered from the rain, and the others must be discarded, so as not to tempt greed; The festival funeral is to extinguish personal feelings, keep filial piety and lay the spirit, and spend material resources for Lang, which is really a great harm; Non-music is abstinence and etiquette, and music is determined by etiquette, but singing and dancing music is useless to people, it will only tempt people's desires, and etiquette is humble, hindering and loving each other, and should also be forbidden; Non-aggression is to control greed, evil is born from greed, and the continuous attacks among nations are all caused by greed, so to eliminate greed, we must stop the attack. Only in this way can the hungry be fed, the cold clothed, and the toiling rested. In this way, the chaotic can be ruled and the world will be peaceful. ”

Chun Yu Zhongxiu thought for a while before he said: "Although Mr.'s words are reasonable, it is still natural for a father to love his son and his father for himself, even if it is not avoidable from beasts, let alone people." Since love is not compatible with nature, how can it work? And if self-interest is turned into public interest, then isn't it possible for everyone to work for nothing, and be willing to work less than more, and if mutual benefit can be done? In this way, it is not possible to fight each other, and it cannot benefit each other, so it is even more economical and funeral, non-fun, and non-attacking. ”

Zhai Jin was stunned for a moment, and said lightly: "It's man-made, Miss thinks that 'love and benefit each other' is not feasible, but I believe that this is the way to make the world peaceful, so I also take it as my responsibility to preach this way, although I die without regrets." ”

Chun Yu Zhong Xiu nodded slightly and said, "Although Zhong Xiu does not agree with Mr. 's statement, Zhong Xiu still deeply admires Mr. for his heart of martyrdom. ”

And Gao Yuan listened to it, and also looked at Chunyu Zhongxiu a little differently, because her comments on the Mo family can be said to be to the point, very in place, the Mo family's proposition is an absolute fairness, too idealistic, although it looks beautiful, but in reality it is impossible to implement it at all. Therefore, he nodded unconsciously.

But Chunyu Zhongxiu immediately saw Gao Yuan's movements, so he turned to Gao Yuan again, and said with a smile: "Doctor Gao just nodded, I don't know what it means." Do you agree with Zhong Xiu's opinion, or do you agree with Mr. Zhai's opinion? ”

Gao Yuan was stunned for a moment and said, "Of course, I agree with Miss." ”

Chun Yu Zhong Xiu smiled and said, "So what does the doctor think is the right way for Confucianism?" ”

Gao Yuan smiled bitterly, didn't this girl push herself to the fire to roast? Now let Zisi say that one is the right way, but it will inevitably offend the other, Gao Yuan is not academic, and there is no enmity with Confucianism and Law, why should he offend people? But now that Chun Yu Zhongxiu has asked this, he can't do it without speaking.

So after thinking about it for a while, he suddenly said: "Mr. Shen and Mr. Gongsun, I want to ask the two of you, Legalism and Confucianism are like fire and water, but is there any difference between the doctrines of the two schools?" ”

As soon as this sentence was said, everyone present was stunned, Chun Yu Zhongxiu's soul-stirring autumn water eyes stared firmly at the plateau, and Chun Yubo's eyes, who had not spoken for a long time, also flashed a fine light, and Shen Shen and Gongsun Long both fell into deep thought.

Although no one has verified when the Legal-Confucian controversy began, few people have really studied the difference between Legalism and Confucianism, and why water and fire are different. It seems that the two schools of Confucianism and Law are inherently opposed.

After a long while, Gongsun Long said: "Legalists advocate the establishment of a country ruled by law, without education, but to strictly punish the common people with strict punishments, so that the people are afraid of the law and officials, and have to obey; Confucianism, on the other hand, acts according to etiquette, governs the country with benevolence and righteousness, convinces the people with virtue, educates the people, and makes the people happy. This is the difference between the two families. ”

Shen Shen opened his mouth, he wanted to say something, but he held back. Although Gongsun Long's statement has the intention of deliberately belittling Legalism and beautifying Confucianism, on the whole, it is still in line with the thinking of the two families. At this time, everyone's eyes were focused on Gao Yuan's body, because this question was asked by Gao Yuan, and now that Gongsun Long has answered, it depends on how he answers.

Gao Yuan did not comment on Gongsun Long's answer, but said, "Mr. Gongsun, I have a question I want to ask Mr. first. ”

Gongsun Long said: "Please ask questions." ”

Gao Yuan said: "If a person kills someone for no reason, from the perspective of Mr. Gongsun, how should he deal with it?" ”

Gongsun Long said: "The murderer pays for his life, and it is justified and deserved." ”

Gao Yuan nodded, turned to Shen Shen again, and said, "So what if Mr. Shen is deciding?" ”

Shen Shen said: "There is no forgiveness for killing, and the trick is established." ”

Gao Yuan smiled slightly, looked around at everyone, and said, "Everyone has heard, isn't the Confucian Legalist the same method in dealing with murderers?" ”

After everyone listened, they were all stunned, some were in a daze, some were contemplative, and some were dazed, but the corners of Chun Yubo's mouth were slightly smiling. But Chun Yu Zhongxiu smiled and said: "What the doctor means, is the idea of the two schools of Confucianism and law actually the same?" ”

Gao Yuan nodded and said: "According to the following simple opinion, Confucianism and Legalism are actually the same in many places, and it can be said that they have the same end. ”

Song Rong, who didn't want to speak, not only smiled, but said: "Confucian legalists have been fighting each other for hundreds of years, and it is the first time I have heard someone say that the two schools of Confucianism and law advocate that they have the same path. So isn't it a big joke that the two have fought each other for hundreds of years? ”

Zhao Jia was also a little surprised, and said: "The doctor's words are also unbelievable, how can the two Confucianism and law families be the same?" Can the doctor elaborate on that? ”

Gao Yuan said: "In fact, everyone knows that many Legalists and scholars used to be Confucian disciples, and Guan Zhong studied the six arts of Confucianism when he was young; Wu Qicao worshiped the great Confucian Zengzi as his teacher, and when Shang Ying first met Qin Xiaogong, he also persuaded Qin Xiaogong to govern the country with Confucianism and practice the road of benevolence and righteousness; And Han Fei and Li Si are both the masters of Old Xun and the old man, and the two Confucianism and Law families have such a close relationship, so it is normal to have many similarities in their thinking. Didn't everyone hear that just now? Murderers pay for their lives, regardless of Confucianism, they are all recognized. ”

Song Rong laughed and said, "Then the scholars of the two schools of Confucianism and Law, what do you have to say?" ”

In fact, Tian Zikai, Gongsun Long, and Shen Shen of course do not agree with Gao Yuan's words, the two Confucianism and Law have been fighting for hundreds of years, of course, it is not something that can be changed by Gao Yuan's words. However, Gongsun Long and Shen Shen were still young in the end, and they were a little dazed by the plateau at this time, and they couldn't find the words to refute it for a while.

At this time, Tian Xiaokai couldn't sit still, and said: "The doctor only thinks that the murderer pays for his life, and thinks that the two schools of Confucianism and law are similar, and it may not be a little biased, the Legalists still establish the law, use tyranny to govern the country, and frighten the people with severe punishment, the people violate the law, and the law is violated, and one person has done it, and the whole family will be tired of sitting and sinning, and the people are afraid of the officials like tigers, and the officials regard the people as ants; And my Confucianism respects the system of etiquette, emphasizes education, stresses benevolence and righteousness, governs by virtue, the officials love the people, the people respect the officials, and the world is governed, and the punishment of the criminal law is only not allowed to be done by talent, how can the difference be so thousand, and how can it be confused with the Legalists? ”