Tian Zikai first said: "Mr. Chunyu, I remember Xunzi also said, 'Although, there is a reason. It is also a number of people and has everything, but the county is famous as the king, but it is not far away. What is it? then it is free of Confucianism. Therefore, it is said: pure and king, refute and hegemon, and no one dies. This is also Qin's shortcoming. 'How did you forget, sir?' ”

The gist of this passage is that the state of Qin is not perfect, and it still has its troubles. Although the Qin State actually has many advantages, it is still far from the standard of the ancient holy kings, because there are no Confucians in the Qin State. Simply advocating moral governance, you can become an ancient holy king, and you can govern the country with both righteousness and profit, and you can become a hegemon, neither of these can do both, and you will perish, and this is also the shortcoming of the Qin State.

Because the Qin State is based on the Legalist doctrine as the governing thought, and it is also recognized as the representative of the achievements of the Legalist ideology in governing the country, and Confucianism and Legalism have always been like fire and water, so praising the Qin State is actually praising Legalism, and praising Legalism is also derogating Confucianism. But Chun Yubo quoted Xunzi's words to praise the Qin State, and Xunzi was a Confucian master-level scholar, so Tian Zikai couldn't attack this statement as untrue, so he had to throw out the paragraph behind Xunzi's praise of the Qin State.

Xunzi entered the Qin State about the time of King Zhaoxiang of Qin, although the Qin State at that time was already the most powerful country in the world, but in the eyes of Confucian scholars, the Qin State was still a culturally backward country that did not know etiquette. In addition, the six eastern countries deliberately promoted the aggressive, fierce, and brutal side of Qin, so in the eyes of various countries, Qin was still a barbaric, backward, and warlike country.

And Xun Xiao described the situation of Qin almost the same as the Datong world in ancient Chinese legends, although the shortcomings of Qin were still pointed out later, it should be said that Xunzi's evaluation of Qin was quite high, and it did cause a lot of sensation at that time. Because even if there were still some deficiencies in the Qin State, its national political level and social situation had far surpassed that of the six eastern countries at that time. Therefore, it is not a great ridicule for the six countries of the East and Confucian scholars. Since then, however, the state of Qin has also aroused the interest of many scholars, and scholars from other schools of thought have also joined the state of Qin, including many Confucian scholars.

In fact, not only Xunzi, Sima Qian also spoke highly of the Qin State after the Shang Dynasty changed the law, and even used words and phrases such as "the road is not left behind, there are no thieves in the mountains, the family is sufficient, the people are brave in public war, cowardly in private fighting, and the countryside is governed".

It's just that after the Han Dynasty, because Confucianism deliberately smeared the Qin State and made the Qin State synonymous with harshness and violence, the Qin State could not go beyond this range, and Xunzi and Sima Qian's positive evaluation of the Qin State was ignored by some scholars.

After listening to Tian Zikai's words, Chun Yubo also smiled slightly, and said: "Master, as you can see below, the current Qin State already has many Confucian disciples, so there is no need to say this paragraph of Old Master Xun. ”

This time Tian Xiaokai is also speechless, Bi Jing left Xun Xiao's era of Qin, it has been nearly 30 years, Chun Yubo said that Qin now has Confucian disciples, Tian Xiaokai can't say no.

At this time, Shen Shen smiled and said: "What Master Xun and Mr. Chun Yu saw in the Qin State shows that only legislation is the foundation for governing the country, so if the six countries want to work hard, they must appoint legalists, change the law and innovate, and legislation as the foundation, so that the country can be governed." "He is a Legalist scholar, and of course he will not let go of this opportunity and vigorously promote his academic achievements.

Tian Xiaokai snorted, he respected his identity, of course he would not argue with Shen Shen, so he gave his disciple a look, Gongsun Long immediately understood, and said: "Mr. Shen's words, I'm afraid it's a bit too much." Even Xun Fuzi also said, "It is not Confucian, this is also the short of Qin" It can be seen that the words of the Legalists are not a good policy for governing the country, even if it can be stronger than a while, but it is also difficult to last, only respect my Confucian road, implement benevolent government, and govern the country with etiquette, is the right way to govern the country, so that the Zhou Dynasty can establish the country for 800 years, and it will be prosperous for a long time, and the civil and military Zhou Gong can be called holy, all because Confucianism can be admired, and the rule of etiquette is far better than the way of Legalism. ”

Every time there is a meeting of this kind, although there are arguments between scholars of other schools, they can still be harmonious, but as long as there are Legalists and Confucian disciples attending at the same time, the two sides will definitely fight each other, and they will have to fight for each other. And this time there is Chun Yu Zhongxiu present, Shen Shen and Gongsun Long are all young people, even if they don't think about Chun Yu Zhongxiu, they always want to show themselves in front of the beauties and leave a good impression. Therefore, as soon as they saw Gongsun Long speaking, Song Rong, and Zhai Jin knew in their hearts that today's show was about to start again.

Sure enough, Shen Shen had been prepared for this kind of debate, and when he saw Gongsun Long citing the example of the Zhou Dynasty, he immediately said: "It is true that Zhou established the country with Confucianism, but time has passed, and Confucianism has long been out of date. After the three families were divided, there were Li Kui who changed the law in Wei, Wu Qi who changed the law in Chu, Shen Bu who changed the law in Han, and Shang Jun who changed the law in Qin. And it is precisely because the Zhou Dynasty adhered to Confucianism and did not know how to be flexible, so it finally destroyed the country and destroyed the heirs, and this lesson should be the ring for future generations. ”

Of course, Gongsun Long was not to be outdone, and said: "But the Zhou Dynasty has been established for 800 years, how can it not be the work of Confucianism?" How can it be said that it is out of place, and the Zhou Dynasty fell precisely because Zhou Tian lost his morality and failed to adhere to the Confucian way. And the appointment of Legalists to govern the country, strong but a few years and weak, prosperous but more than ten years and decline, now South Korea has died, Wei has been weak, Chu has declined, although there is a Qin State alone, but it is difficult to last long, it can be seen that the study of Legalism is not a road. ”

Shen Shen shook his head again and again, and said: "It is still difficult to determine whether the Zhou State failed to adhere to the Confucian way and died, but since King Ping's eastward crossing, there have been three masters in Confucianism: Confucius, Meng, and Xun, all of whom are a generation of grandmasters, and they all sincerely admire the three of them, but these three grandmasters have no achievements in governing the country, and it can also be seen whether Confucianism can be used in today's world." And the states of Han, Wei, and Chu that Mr. Gongsun just mentioned failed to adhere to the laws formulated by the Legalists and gave up halfway, so that the country did not last long. And the Qin State since the Shang Jun changed the law, after six generations without decay, has been a hundred years, it is precisely because it has always adhered to the decree formulated by the Shang Jun, has not changed, and now it is stronger than in the past, who dares to say that it cannot develop for a long time, even if it exceeds the Zhou Dynasty, it may not be known. ”

Gongsun Long snorted and said: "Confucius, Meng, and Xun have no achievements in governing the country, but it is still because the kings of various countries do not know the names of people, and they don't need them, otherwise they would have already been the holy kings in the world, not to mention that Confucian disciples are all over the world, and the number of people is far from being compared with other families, and over time, it will definitely be used by the king, and the Legalists specialize in ruling the country with severe punishment, and they are still practicing the government of deceiving the people and fooling the people, how can it last for a long time, although the Qin State is lucky, it can survive for a hundred years, and it is impossible to surpass the Zhou Dynasty. ”

Shen Shen's eyebrows raised, and he was about to refute it, but Chun Yu Zhong Xiuji smiled and said: "The future is illusory, how many years can the Qin State survive, even if there are physiognomy masters, it may not be clear." There is no need for the two to argue, it is better to look at the present and then make a difference. ”

Her opening just happened to relieve the siege for the two of them, otherwise the two of them would not be able to argue clearly about how many years the Qin State could survive. Therefore, Gao Yuan admired her a little, and she deserved the name of a talented woman, and she hit the nail on the head in one sentence. And let both of them save face.

However, listening to the debate between Shen Shen and Gongsun Long just now, Shen Shen has grasped the weakness of Confucianism, and the Spring and Autumn Period and the Warring States Period have come, as long as the country appoints Legalists to change the law, it can become strong. However, Confucianism does not have many achievements in governing the country, and it can even be said that nothing has been accomplished. In their lifetimes, the three Confucian masters of Confucius, Meng, and Xun, although they were all famous all over the world, and each of them had traveled all over the world, running between countries, and selling their academic ideas to the monarchs of various countries, and there were also many monarchs who were very courteous and received him warmly, but unfortunately there was no monarch who entrusted them with important responsibilities and accepted their academic ideas to govern the country.

If it is one or two, it can be said that the monarch does not have the wisdom to understand people, but all the monarchs have not accepted Confucianism to govern the country, then they can only find the reason from Confucianism itself. It is a pity that these three grandmasters, as well as later Confucian scholars, without exception, did not review the merits of Confucianism, and put the responsibility on the monarchs of various countries. Of course, some people in later generations also commented that these three grandmasters were able to always adhere to their ideals and not bend to cater to those in power, which was much better than those shameless Confucians in later generations who blindly flattered the monarch and wantonly distorted Confucianism.

But Gongsun Long is also very right, in terms of governing the country, Confucianism really can't make any achievements, but he focuses on the fact that Confucianism has many disciples, and this Yiyi is the biggest shortcoming of Legalism.

And at this moment, Song Rong said: "Both gentlemen are well-educated people, and they should have made great achievements, but it is a pity that both of them have gone astray, which is really regrettable." ”

Shen Shen and Gongsun Long were a little unhappy, but Song Rong was also a well-known scholar in Zhao State, and he was also the elder of the two in terms of age, so the two did not dare to refute lightly, but said in unison: "I would like to listen to the master's teaching." ”

Song Rong smiled slightly and said: "In life, you can't take doing something as the foundation of your life. But I don't know that it is still a big mistake to take 'doing something' as the foundation of life, and only 'doing nothing' is the most profound avenue between heaven and earth. ”

Chun Yubo was still silent, but Chun Yu Zhongxiu said: "If you follow the meaning of Master Song, is it difficult to say that only doing nothing is the right way?" ”

Song Rong smiled and nodded, and said: "It is precisely because everyone wants to 'make a difference' that everyone has a burning desire, and as a result, there are hundreds of disputes, and all kinds of evils are coming. ”