Although Cui Huanzhi was annoyed, he couldn't speak at this time, Shang Shuling asked Hubu Shangshu to express his position, this is no problem, but everyone can see that this is forcing Hubu Shangshu to stand in line.

It is conceivable how much pressure there is on the Hubu Shangshu at the moment, and his best way is to make mud, but in this way, it will give people a feeling that he is useless as the Hubu Shangshu.

After all, he has two waiters, one is the main promoter and the other is against, they are all clear attitudes, and there is absolutely no ambiguity.

At this time, the big Situ over there suddenly spoke: "Hubu Shangshu wait a while, I want to listen to Chu Xian's way of dealing with it first, if it is reform, there must be a way, if it is not as good as the existing system, then there is no need to change, if it is better than the status quo, it doesn't hurt to change." ”

When everyone heard this, their hearts jumped.

Da Situ's words were flat, but anyone could hear that this was on Chu Xian's side, and this was the second person at the highest level of the Holy Dynasty to begin to express his position.

At the beginning, it was Shang Shuling Li Yuanming, who was obviously a staunch opposition, and now Da Situ expressed his position, although he couldn't hear it in his words, everyone knew that he was supporting Chu Xian.

In this way, not only Chu Xian, but also Hubu Shangshu also felt that the pressure on his body was much less.

At this time, it depends on how Li Yuanming reacts.

Only Shangshu Ling Li Yuanming has this qualification, and as for Liu Jiwen, he has no qualifications to speak at all.

Of course, Li Yuanming couldn't help but speak at this time, how to say it has become a science, and at this moment, he heard Li Yuanming smile: "What Lord Situ said makes sense, but you can listen to what this Chu Shilang thinks for the time being, maybe it is immature, but fortunately, with us to check him, it will not be boundless." ”

Obviously, Li Yuanming's method is to retreat as advance, and it seems that he agrees to let Chu Xian continue, but the blows and negations in his words can be heard by anyone.

Da Situ also smiled: "Since Master Li also has this idea, then Chu Xian, you can continue." ”

Chu Xian knew what he had just said. Dangerous', sometimes, whether it can be done or not, may be in a word, internal affairs, the real can be the master, in fact, it is not Xiao Yu Taishi, but the two of Da Situ and Shang Shuling, in some internal affairs, the control and influence of these two are equal, if you compare it in depth, Da Situ is nominally the highest official in internal affairs, but the real implementation and control of power is Shang Shuling, the six departments are basically under the jurisdiction of Li Yuanming, especially the household department, Li Yuanming's control is far above Da Situ. If Hubu Shangshu was forced to come out and make a statement just now, and Chu Xian's plan would be 'stopped', it would be difficult for others to stop it, because it would be tantamount to denying the authority of Hubu Shangshu, and without special circumstances, it would definitely not be possible, even if it was Taishi Xiao Yu, he would not do it.

Fortunately, at a critical time, Da Situ stood up for 'solidarity'.

Chu Xian knew that the opportunity was rare, and he was almost 'killed' just now, so this opportunity must be seized.

So Chu Xian began: "Generally speaking, the problems of the old land system are only in a few points, one is the private ownership of land, and the other is not subject to the supervision of the government, but the local government also encourages the sale of land for some tax money, which is a big taboo, so you only need to work these two things." ”

Over there, Liu Jiwen listened carefully, and at this moment, he felt that he had seized the opportunity again, and immediately opened his mouth to retort: "Chu Xian, what you said is extremely ridiculous, just say the first one, the land is private, how can you change it? Many fields have been passed down from generation to generation, could it be that you plan to take it by force? If that's the case, it's strange that the world is not chaotic." Let's talk about the second one, when was it wrong to collect taxes and silver? And you said that it was a big taboo, Chu Shilang, Liu really didn't dare to agree with your ridiculous remarks, and I believe that the colleagues present would not agree. ”

After Liu Jiwen finished speaking, his face was proud, but he didn't know that Chu Xian was already angry at this time.

Liu Jiwen provoked and refuted three or four times, without the slightest reason, just relied on cunning and changing the topic to refute, Chu Xian endured it before, but now Chu Xian doesn't want to endure it.

If you don't give this Liu Jiwen a little color, the other party is afraid that he will not be able to play.

Obviously, Liu Jiwen would not know how much 'homework' Chu Xian had done for today's court meeting.

"Liu Shilang is really more powerful than the old man of Tianji, I only say one, but you even know the two, three, four in the back, Chu Xian admires, only with the four words of private land, you can actually think of so much, but this is also in line with your style of acting, that is, no matter what you do, you like to be self-righteous, but rarely verify, I always feel that my experience and vision are unique, just like a year ago, the Ministry of Household urgently stopped the shipping pension to change the decree......"

Speaking of this, Chu Xian glanced at Liu Jiwen very playfully, and the latter's face changed, like a cat that had been stepped on by its tail.

Chu Xian didn't give the other party a chance to speak, and continued: "In this decree, it actually says that the bereavement expenses will be reduced, on the grounds that some people have set up a bureau to deliberately create accidents such as shipwrecks and bandits, and defraud disability and death benefits, so after the cut, not only can they save expenses, but those who only try to set up a bureau to defraud the silver money will also be halved because of the silver money, and they will not cheat again." It is said that this decree was made by Liu Shilang, and the reason why Liu Shilang had a whimsical idea was that he only heard people talk about similar scams when chatting with people, and as a result, he neither checked the truth nor considered the impact, and with a move of his lips and a wave of his pen, he began to govern with self-righteousness, which is very similar to now. Fortunately, a Shilang in the household department at that time found out that he ran to Lord Shangshu to react, and after verification, he realized that the so-called fraud of the pension money was completely fictitious, and this decree was urgently stopped. ”

After Chu Xian finished speaking, Liu Jiwen found a chance to speak, and his reaction was very direct: "Chu...... Chu Xian, you, you are simply talking about it, the matter at that time has been ascertained, it was proposed by an official under me, and this official is only responsible for negligence, this is a well-known thing, you are talking nonsense, I will sue you for slander......"

Chu Xian sneered, suddenly passed over, and whispered: "Liu Shilang has forgotten the title of Chu? If there is no real evidence, how can he say in front of the congregation officials, you think that I am the same as you, and dare to talk nonsense just by imagination?"

Hearing this, Liu Jiwen reacted, and his heart was beating violently at the moment, and what he wanted to say was also stuck.

It's-for-tat at the moment, but no one thought that this-for-tat would actually start to dig out old accounts, who made the decree back then, Liu Jiwen naturally knows better than anyone else, and he is really a little scared at this moment.

In case Chu Xian really had real evidence, he didn't dare to imagine this, this result.

Chu Xian's prestige as the first detective of the Holy Dynasty obviously played an effect at this time, Liu Jiwen was the kind of 'self-righteous' person, and at this moment he was also 'concluding' that Chu Xian had evidence unfavorable to him, besides, it must be him Liu Jiwen who was unlucky.

Therefore, Liu Jiwen was sluggish, and he was already afraid of urgency in his heart, and he didn't dare to target Chu Xian anymore, but on the surface, he had to hold on.

At this time, Da Situ smiled secretly in his heart, he naturally saw that Chu Xian was 'cheating' Liu Jiwen, but he didn't point it out, but just said in a timely manner: "Chu Shilang, I'll talk about other things later, now I'm talking about land reform, don't divert the topic." ”

This is a superficial reprimand, but it is actually helping Chu Xian pull back the topic.

In Liu Jiwen's view, this is Da Situ helping him 'break the siege', if he lets Chu Xian continue, he is really afraid that Chu Xian will shake out the 'real evidence', and it will be difficult to clean it up at that time. Of course, Liu Jiwen also knew that Chu Xian might be playing tricks and bluffing him, but Liu Jiwen didn't dare to gamble.

If you are not afraid of anything, you are afraid of ten thousand, in case Chu Xian has something in his hands, even if it is not direct evidence, it is quite unfavorable to himself.

And what Chu Xian asked for was to 'shut up', Liu Jiwen could only admit to it for the sake of his career, and then, no matter what Chu Xian said, he made up his mind and couldn't jump out to refute it anymore.

"Rubbish!" On the high platform, Shang Shuling Li Yuanming scolded softly.

Obviously, he was scolding Liu Jiwen.

Chu Xian could finally continue to talk about his decree.

"First of all, it is true to collect taxes and silver when buying and selling land, but if there is no supervision, the local government will connive at it, and if we encounter some big landlords who bully people with their power, how can those oppressed people be treated fairly? The state government records the ownership and purchase details of the land at each level, and submits it to the household commissioner on time for review and retention, and if there is a problem, it can also be traced back to the source. ”

After Chu Xian finished speaking, there were already officials who were nodding in contemplation, obviously this law is a perfect decree, but it is also mild, and after it is implemented, it will not harm the interests of a certain party.

"Is there anything else?" Da Situ asked, he knew that Chu Xian's 'big move' was still to come.

Chu Xian nodded: " As for the privatization of land, it is the main culprit, try to ask a county, all the cultivated land is in the hands of a very small number of people, the rest of the people, if they want to survive, they can only be exploited by others, in the long run, disasters will come out, it will be like a snowball, rolling bigger and bigger, in the future if these large landlords are connected with each other, if there is any action, it will inevitably be difficult to deal with, then I am afraid that it will be out of control, to take the simplest example, the so-called people take food as the sky, grain, is the foundation of the stable world, and the grain in the field, if these large landlords do not sell grain, even if the government controls the price, they can also sell it at a high price on the black market, if they encounter natural disasters and man-made disasters again, the lifeblood of the Holy Dynasty is under the control of these people, let me ask, colleagues, don't you feel afraid?"